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Cato/Zogby poll: Majority backs individual accounts for Social Security
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Posted on 01/28/2005 9:52:13 AM PST by slowhand520

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To: Darkwolf377; Wheee The People; slowhand520; kevkrom; sevry; KC_Conspirator; pgkdan; CurlyDave
Examining OH, PA, FL I found both called OH, PA with Survey-USA a little closer to actual.

Both pretty well blew FL.

41 posted on 01/28/2005 2:13:05 PM PST by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan.)
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To: Darkwolf377
You've got some weird ideas about "accuracy".

You've got some weird ideas for responding.

Your link was to 2002 Senator and Governor results and did not even refer to Survey-USA.

42 posted on 01/28/2005 2:23:53 PM PST by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan.)
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To: sevry
if I recall (Cato)was also rather on the Iranian/jihadist side during the last few years.

Cato is a libertarian think tank and is closer in philosophy to true conservatism than to the neocon tripe that you are probably calling conservative.

43 posted on 01/28/2005 2:28:57 PM PST by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan.)
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I suppose you were in a coma on election day when Zogby was completely wrong and the furthest from being right with his final numbers.

Are your referring to the national popular vote totals?

44 posted on 01/28/2005 2:32:59 PM PST by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan.)
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To: RnMomof7

You are getting some seriously bad information from somebody on this issue, Mom.


45 posted on 01/28/2005 2:38:40 PM PST by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan.)
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When less money is put into the fund... where do the funds for the benefits of the 55+ come from? That is where the "new" 2 trillion of debt comes from.

Then there is a change proposed that will lead to a real benefit cut ... that is calculation by inflation rather than prices


The fact is you do not know what the tax rate will be on the death of a worker under this plan do you? One congressman said it could approach 80% (which I assume is misstated ...but there will be something )

So if a young man dies and leaves his family without a bread winner.. the government may first take a bite of that money before the widow and kids do .

This is a windfall for investors and brokers.. the market is already over valued, imagine what it will be when we add what ever american workers we have left to the mix.. lots of people will get rich, and it will not be the guy that has a $10 hr job


46 posted on 01/28/2005 3:01:04 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7

AARP?


47 posted on 01/28/2005 3:13:36 PM PST by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan.)
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"You've got some weird ideas for responding. Your link was to 2002 Senator and Governor results and did not even refer to Survey-USA."

It's about the Zogby poll's accuracy. Which happens to be the subject of this thread.

You didn't know that? Kinda explains your initial uninformed response. :)

48 posted on 01/28/2005 5:11:48 PM PST by Darkwolf377
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Once again, same link:

http://mason-dixon.com/news_text.cfm?news_id=158

Please note the error rate about the Zogby poll.

BTW, in case you need reminding about the thread topic--Zogby--please look at those large letters at the top of the thread, ok? ;)

49 posted on 01/28/2005 5:13:32 PM PST by Darkwolf377
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That's all well and good, but who's talking about that? Your rude post was about how Zogby is #1 when that link you can't seem to use shows that Zogby has one of the biggest error rates. Something you have in common. ;)


50 posted on 01/28/2005 5:15:23 PM PST by Darkwolf377
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if I recall (Cato)was also

If I recall, that was Zogby, not the CATO institute - which is actually what I wrote. Don't put words in my mouth.

51 posted on 01/28/2005 9:12:20 PM PST by sevry
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Yes I was referring to the national vote totals, but if you look at the state by state totals Zogby was even worse. Scott Rassmussen resolved whatever problems plaqued him in 2000 and called the race pretty damn well. Zogby had W losing PA by 11 points, losing Ohio and had Virginia too close to call...just like the trumped up exit polls. Zogby's accuracy in the 2004 election was non existent...along with his integrity.


52 posted on 01/28/2005 9:54:48 PM PST by pgkdan
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