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Micheal Schiavo Refuses Settlement Offer that Includes Granting him all of Terri's Money
Terri's Website http://www.terrisfight.org ^ | 1/28/05 | Attorney Gibbs

Posted on 01/28/2005 3:38:55 PM PST by FreepinforTerri

Freepers, check out the settlement. It's in PDF form and I don't know what I'm doing.

http://www.terrisfight.org


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: felos; righttolife; schiavo; terri; terrischiavo; terrisfight
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I'm just trying to get the word out. Please be nice to me. I realize I'm a techno-idiot.
1 posted on 01/28/2005 3:38:56 PM PST by FreepinforTerri
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To: FreepinforTerri

Thank you. This deserves it's own thread...

luvya babe!!


2 posted on 01/28/2005 3:44:22 PM PST by dandelion (http://thequestionfairy.blogspot.com/)
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To: FreepinforTerri

So, it isn't about the money. It's about killing the witness.


3 posted on 01/28/2005 3:44:30 PM PST by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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To: FreepinforTerri

So he just wants her dead, eh?


4 posted on 01/28/2005 3:44:49 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: anniegetyourgun

It sure looks that way, doesn't it?


5 posted on 01/28/2005 3:46:39 PM PST by exnavychick (There's too much youth; how about a fountain of smart?)
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To: coloradan

I've come to believe it's about Mikey getting his own way. The only memories she could probably have are those after the injury. Maybe he could be worried about that. But I think, first and foremost, he's a control-freak who must have everything his way. He hates the Schindlers, and it's all about beating them. JMO


6 posted on 01/28/2005 3:51:05 PM PST by Annie03
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To: FreepinforTerri
Hang in there, pal. More people are watching this than you can realize.

I think that Michael Schiavo is a murderer. It's not about money. It's about evidence. Someone needs to go back to the very beginning of this story, because that's what most people here don't understand. I am telling you this from the Claus and Sunny von Bulow State.! Someone in Terri's case needs to cite Sunny's case, because there is a precedent with SvB, IMHO. Sunny is alive. Terri is alive, and somebody needs to cite that fact.

BTW, Sunny is still in a coma, and Claus is still rich and free. Also, O.J. is searching for the "real killers" on a golf course in Florida. Can't someone out there connect Sunny von Bulow's family and the Schindler family? It's not that far a leap...
7 posted on 01/28/2005 4:01:02 PM PST by ishabibble
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To: FreepinforTerri; floriduh voter; phenn; cyn; kimmie7; Pegita; windchime; tutstar; Deo volente; ...

Terri ping!

If anyone would like to be added to or removed from my Terri ping list, please let me know by FReepmail!


8 posted on 01/28/2005 4:04:40 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: FreepinforTerri

BTTT

He wants her dead


9 posted on 01/28/2005 4:11:00 PM PST by hattend (Liberals! Beware the Perfect Rovian Storm [All Hail, Chimpus Khan!])
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To: ishabibble
I think that Michael Schiavo is a murderer. It's not about money. It's about evidence.

If Terri recovers after moving in with her parents, is there any way that Michael could plausibly claim that he was not responsible for her continued condition?

Attempted murder more than 10 years ago is legally meaningless. But the ongoing crimes would be sufficient to put Michael, Felos, Greer, et al. in a world of hurt if they were proven.

10 posted on 01/28/2005 4:17:30 PM PST by supercat (Michael Schiavo is trying to starve Terri not because she's dying, but because she ISN'T.)
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To: FreepinforTerri

bump


11 posted on 01/28/2005 4:27:53 PM PST by ItCanHappenToYou (ItCanHappenToYou)
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To: coloradan

sarcasm tag on. No. He just wants to fulfl her wishes. /sarcasm tag off


12 posted on 01/28/2005 4:32:03 PM PST by pc93
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To: FreepinforTerri; All

Let's hope this link will work. I was having trouble with the other one.
http://www.terrisfight.org/documents/SettlementLetter10-04.pdf


13 posted on 01/28/2005 4:32:04 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: pc93

Now did you have to do that? You'll get them all cranked up again! LOL!


14 posted on 01/28/2005 4:34:43 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: supercat
One of the most egregious things that feminism did to women, IMHO, is take away the credibility of 'woman's intuition'. It's real, it's here, and I use it daily.

This Michael Schiavo is just so wrong. Is there enough money and/or evidence to go back the 14 yrs. and look again? If they can do it for TV shows like CSI and NCIS, with millions in the budgets, why not do it for one single human being? This woman didn't just blink out...

If science ever does catch up with Michael Schiavo, I'd bet he'll get the death penalty for the especially cruel way in which he made his victim suffer.
15 posted on 01/28/2005 4:35:35 PM PST by ishabibble
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To: FreepinforTerri
I wonder what would happen if he was offered IMMUNITY from prosecution?
16 posted on 01/28/2005 4:40:40 PM PST by msnimje
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To: msnimje

He was- as part of the settlement. That's the kicker.


17 posted on 01/28/2005 4:41:56 PM PST by FreepinforTerri (I'M NOT GIVING UP ON TERRI! WE'RE JUST GETTING STARTED IN THIS FIGHT!!!)
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To: Ohioan from Florida
Oh My God! Thanks for this link. No doubt about it, Michael Schiavo has to be a definite suspect for the state Terri is in. How could anyone be so cruel?

I haven't participated in many Terri threads on FR, but have read several. I hope FReepers are ready and willing for another call to action. This time, it is to expose this heartfelt plea from the Schindlers, who are virtually willing to give Michael everything he could possibly want, except permission to kill their daughter.

HUGE MSM EXPOSURE IS NEEDED. IF MANY MEDIA OUTLETTS ARE SWAMPED WITH CRIES TO TELL THIS STORY, THEY WILL HAVE TO RESPOND. EVEN GRETTA ON FOX SHOULD WANT TO PICK THIS ONE UP! MICHAEL SCHIAVO'S REACTION TO THIS PITIFUL PLEA FROM TERRI'S PARENTS SPEAKS VOLUMES!
18 posted on 01/28/2005 4:43:39 PM PST by demkicker (I'm Ra th er sick of Dan)
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To: anniegetyourgun

Yes. Dead and cremated. She's evidence to his crimes against her. Dead she can't possibly cause him any problems. Besides, it's not like he's got a conscience or anything--the evil b@stard.


19 posted on 01/28/2005 4:44:08 PM PST by FreepinforTerri (I'M NOT GIVING UP ON TERRI! WE'RE JUST GETTING STARTED IN THIS FIGHT!!!)
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To: FreepinforTerri
He was- as part of the settlement. That's the kicker

For attempted murder? I will read the letter again.

20 posted on 01/28/2005 4:44:49 PM PST by msnimje
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To: FreepinforTerri

1st-Thanks for putting this on a seperate thread.
2nd-Noway are you a techo-idiot.
3rd- I am a techno-idiot;been a member here since 2003 and still can't start a new thread. floriduh voter and others have tried to help me post new threads but ....

truly yours,
CR (the real techo-idiot)


21 posted on 01/28/2005 4:45:29 PM PST by Chocolate Rose
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To: Chocolate Rose

Hey, I resemble that remark!


22 posted on 01/28/2005 4:47:14 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: msnimje

Looked like immunity to me. Mention of no furture court involvement.


23 posted on 01/28/2005 4:47:34 PM PST by FreepinforTerri (I'M NOT GIVING UP ON TERRI! WE'RE JUST GETTING STARTED IN THIS FIGHT!!!)
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To: Ohioan from Florida

Thanks! This one is much better! Sharp/Clear much easier to read.


24 posted on 01/28/2005 4:49:28 PM PST by Chocolate Rose
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To: demkicker

Yep, Michael is in this for the control. Felos is in it for the $$ and the fame. The rest are in it to push forth the euthanasia agenda by which helpless Americans are put to death without their express permission.


25 posted on 01/28/2005 4:50:09 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: ishabibble

I've been stalking Lifenews and Terri's site all day for updates. The second there was one, I hopped on it. I guarentee you that many people do the same, but I can't guarentee you that they all Freep. Hence the post.


26 posted on 01/28/2005 4:51:26 PM PST by FreepinforTerri (I'M NOT GIVING UP ON TERRI! WE'RE JUST GETTING STARTED IN THIS FIGHT!!!)
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To: FreepinforTerri

That's how I understand it as well.


27 posted on 01/28/2005 4:51:47 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: Ohioan from Florida

But Michael really is that evil. Actually, I think he might have some external pressure now from lawyers and euthanites and the ACLU. If maybe he would accept, now he can't because Felos' agenda depends on Terri's death.


28 posted on 01/28/2005 4:53:16 PM PST by FreepinforTerri (I'M NOT GIVING UP ON TERRI! WE'RE JUST GETTING STARTED IN THIS FIGHT!!!)
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To: FreepinforTerri

Absolutely right! He didn't realize he would get this far in over his head. If her parents had offered this to him before Felos took his case on, he would've snapped it up!


29 posted on 01/28/2005 4:54:52 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: ishabibble; FreepinforTerri
Hang in there, pal. More people are watching this than you can realize.

[snicker'n] Yeh and George & Michael

30 posted on 01/28/2005 4:54:52 PM PST by Chocolate Rose
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To: FreepinforTerri
Killing her is more important to him than her money? Michael Schiavo sounds like he needs to play God to feel important.

Denny Crane: "I want two things. First God and then Fox News."

31 posted on 01/28/2005 4:54:55 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Ohioan from Florida

Lol.


32 posted on 01/28/2005 4:55:41 PM PST by pc93
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To: Chocolate Rose

George, Michael, and family members! They might get banned every time they post but that won't stop them from lurking! ;)


33 posted on 01/28/2005 4:56:46 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; All

Can someone post this to their individuals locales. I already did Florida and the United States here on Freep in regards to the following link.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1331004/posts?page=1#1

Here is the link to the document as well:

http://www.terrisfight.org/documents/SettlementLetter10-04.pdf


34 posted on 01/28/2005 4:57:55 PM PST by pc93
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To: FreepinforTerri; Ohioan from Florida; Republic; tutstar; Chocolate Rose; amdgmary; phenn; ...

ping and bttt.


35 posted on 01/28/2005 5:06:12 PM PST by floriduh voter (SEE TERRI ALERT & AWARE - VIDEOS AT www.terrisfight.org)
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To: FreepinforTerri

http://www.terrisfight.org/documents/SettlementLetter10-04.pdf


36 posted on 01/28/2005 5:06:43 PM PST by tutstar ( <{{--->< http://ripe4change.4-all.org Violations of Florida Statutes ongoing!)
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To: Nightshift

ping
http://www.terrisfight.org/documents/SettlementLetter10-04.pdf


37 posted on 01/28/2005 5:06:59 PM PST by tutstar ( <{{--->< http://ripe4change.4-all.org Violations of Florida Statutes ongoing!)
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To: goldstategop

Also do not forget to think of the counter arguments to rejecting the settlement.

First settlement negotiations are not going to get in front of the judge pursuant to the procedural rules.

If he is really sincere (and there is actually money left) a possible posture for him is to offer the mother and father all the "inheritance" to just go away.

He can also counter by showing there is no money left.

Whatever posture the mother and father take, it has to be from the perspective that the husband has won up to this point.


38 posted on 01/28/2005 5:07:26 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: FreepinforTerri

Sorry bout the last post I made to you...blonde moment LOL.


39 posted on 01/28/2005 5:09:09 PM PST by tutstar ( <{{--->< http://ripe4change.4-all.org Violations of Florida Statutes ongoing!)
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To: floriduh voter

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/florida/sfl-0128schiavo,0,6573390.story?coll=sfla-news-florida


40 posted on 01/28/2005 5:15:57 PM PST by floriduh voter (SEE TERRI ALERT & AWARE - VIDEOS AT www.terrisfight.org)
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To: Ohioan from Florida
George, Michael, and family members! They might get banned every time they post but that won't stop them from lurking! ;)

God must love these people very much. He has prevented them from committing murder all this time. It must be so frustrating for them! : )

41 posted on 01/28/2005 5:20:44 PM PST by bjs1779
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To: floriduh voter

So we go back to court on February the 7th. Good. More time wouldn't have hurt though.


42 posted on 01/28/2005 5:23:08 PM PST by FreepinforTerri (I'M NOT GIVING UP ON TERRI! WE'RE JUST GETTING STARTED IN THIS FIGHT!!!)
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To: FreepinforTerri
Looked like immunity to me. Mention of no furture court involvement.

Last year I was thinking that offering him immunity might be the answer, but now I'm not sure that he can be really be guaranteed immunity from everything at all levels (local, state federal).

For example, if some authority finds Terri's civil rights have been denied, will they accept an agreement in which someone else gave away her right to have been treated humanely?

Do people who repeatedly attempt to kill their children get to go off into the sunset scot-free?

My asking this question doesn't help any person, who might be lurking. Any person's lawyer already knows the limits of what rights can be traded away in another person's name, especially if that lawyer has been a "leader" in the field of this type of guardianship.*

I think this offer of immunity needed to be made. At the same time, with this offer on the table, Michael can twist this situation to say, "See I was offered immunity, but I turned it down. I must, therefore, be innocent. I truly am only carrying out Terri's wishes."

*This type of guardianship should be given some other name, like bodily enslavement.

43 posted on 01/28/2005 5:31:10 PM PST by syriacus (MarthaStewart Noonan: When dealing with terrorism, IT'S A GOOD THING to have trash can lids on hand.)
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To: supercat
"But the ongoing crimes"

Which "ongoing" crimes would that be?

44 posted on 01/28/2005 5:35:11 PM PST by El Gran Salseron ( The replies by this poster are meant for self-amusement only. Read at your own risk. :-))
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To: El Gran Salseron

Denying Terri rehab is an ongoing crime. Denying her oral health care. Keeping her imprisoned. Denying her access to her family for months on end.


Just a few 'ongoing crimes'


45 posted on 01/28/2005 5:39:44 PM PST by FreepinforTerri (I'M NOT GIVING UP ON TERRI! WE'RE JUST GETTING STARTED IN THIS FIGHT!!!)
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To: El Gran Salseron

Well adultery is a misdemeanor. I'm not sure which category of offense the breaking of the guardianship requirements would fall under. This case has really made me wonder how many guardians are actually being made to comply with the statutes that pertain to guardians. If there was a really good prosecutor they could get him for plenty of things, denial of religious freedom, neglect, and more.

Some wonder if insurance fraud could be charged as well. He never said anything about Terri not wanting to live that way until after he won a million for rehab. About $700,000 of that was awarded specifically for Terri's rehab which she hasn't had. It's being used to pay George Felos.


46 posted on 01/28/2005 5:47:21 PM PST by tutstar ( <{{--->< http://ripe4change.4-all.org Violations of Florida Statutes ongoing!)
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To: ishabibble

You are right, this case could be investigated. I've seen on cold cases on A&E and CourtTV where the investigators have gone back thirty or more years.

<P<IMHO Michael is beyond a control freak. He is a sadist and he might figure he'll get the money anyway, maybe he is planning a book deal. Just look at the passes given to him by the judges. He didn't even have to show up for some of the depositions -- just ignored them.


47 posted on 01/28/2005 5:47:30 PM PST by Dante3
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To: All; floriduh voter; phenn; cyn; Ohioan from Florida; Scoop 1; syriacus; tutstar; Chocolate Rose; ..

Wrangling continues as Terri Schiavo's family issues challenge to Michael

an ABC Action News report 01/28/05

CLEARWATER - Terri Schiavo's parents are offering Michael Schiavo everything they have if he'll just walk away and let Terri live.

The Schindlers made that very public challenge to the husband of their brain-damaged daughter Friday; the two sides have been locked in a legal battle over Terri's fate for years.

"He's nowhere to be found," Terri's father, Robert Schindler, said. "Let Michael Schiavo stand right where I am now, in front of all these cameras and microphones, and then you ask him the questions: Why will he not give Terri back to our family?"

The family also made an offer to give Michael uncontested access to Terri's finances and story if he drops his efforts to have her feeding tube removed.

"Book rights, movie rights, any money that could ever be made off of Terri, he can have it all -- any money that he would inherit -- if he would just please, please walk away," explained David Gibbs, the Schindlers' attorney.

George Felos speaks on behalf of Michael Schiavo, who hasn't commented publically on the case since 2003.
While the Schindlers took the case to the court of public opinion, a legal battle waged inside court as well. Gibbs argued Terri was never properly represented.

Calling it "frivolous" and "outrageous," Michael Schiavo's attorney argued that it was just another stall tactic meant to deny Terri her right to die.

"I have said over and over again, this case finally is going to end when the state court justices say no more stays, no more postponements," George Felos told Action News.

It doesn't look like that will happen anytime soon. The judge will take a week to look at this latest appeal after Felos gets a chance to respond to it, and a decision could be weeks away.

The court is also looking at another appeal, which would remove Michael Schiavo as Terri's guardian. A date for that case has not yet been set.

http://www.tampabaylive.com/stories/2005/01/050128schiavo.shtml


48 posted on 01/28/2005 5:55:07 PM PST by amdgmary
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To: Dante3
Even more, why can't he just divorce Terri and give her back to her parents? Because she is, in fact, the prime witness to her own attempted murder.

Sunny von Bulow is the key for Terri. The Schindlers should review that case, and I only offer this because Sunny's state was dismissed because she was a very rich socialite. The Schindler's need to look at the von Bulow case. Claus was found guilty guilty the first time; after Alan Dershowitz got involved, and did the lawyer jig, Claus got off. I truly believe the Michael Schiavo is guilty of attempted murder.
49 posted on 01/28/2005 5:59:01 PM PST by ishabibble
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To: ishabibble

I agree. And Terri is in far better condition that Sunny. In Sunny's case the children, not the husband, became the guardians. Even though the husband got off the second time - wasn't it because of a technicality? - no one demanded that he be the guardian.


50 posted on 01/28/2005 6:02:40 PM PST by Dante3
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