The Numbers Speak For Themselves (gun control and murder rates of assorted countries)

Guns & Ammo ^ | NA | John Hay Rabb

[GOPJ]

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[neverdem]

One of the kids who shot up his school in the '90's along with killing his mother before hand, first went out and killed his pet dog and wrote about it in his journey.

A bunch of those kids were on psychiatric meds. Let me know if you want some links about it.

[Tribune7]

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[neverdem]

From time to time, I’ll post or ping on noteworthy articles about politics, foreign and military affairs. FReepmail me if you want on or off my list.

This other article you may find interesting as well. It has over 344 comments, although half may be from bayourod. I didn't read all the comments.

Republicans Squaring Off Over Bush Plan on Immigration

[Fiddlstix]

BTTT

[endthematrix]

I had read that even US law enforcement have been harassed and having their firearms confiscated. This even when the officer was invited in an LE exchange.

[dufekin]

What about South Africa, the most violent republic in the world? What are their "gun-control" laws, from which criminals necessarily must be exempt?

Oh, yeah, and Mexico could solve most of its crime problem by adopting the second amendment, especially for young women in Juárez.

[wardaddy]

Jamaica has a gun court prison with little cells like something from Bridge over the River Kwai.....like doghouses out in the sun.


off New Hope Road in Kingston.

[eyespysomething]

An armed society is a free society.

And polite.

[Coleus]

bang!

[ccmay]

The Mexicans hunt deer and I know several with pump and bolt action rifles of other than military calibers.

They shoot pistols too. The .38 Super cartridge is very popular in Colt 1911-style automatic pistols down there, because it has never been a military cartridge and therefore (unlike the .45 ACP) is legal -- with considerable restrictions to be sure, but pistols can be possessed with the right permit.

-ccm

[Quix]

Thanks.

[lentulusgracchus]

The State Department even went so far as to issue a special notice to U.S. gun owners, warning about harsh Mexican gun laws. Americans are allowed to hunt in Mexico, but they must first obtain a permit from the Mexican Embassy or a Mexican Consulate before taking their hunting rifles south of the border.

The Mexican gun laws are hypocritical and just used to shake down Americans. A recent magazine article described one case, in which an American who was attending a gun show on the American side of the border made the mistake of deciding to go over to Mexico for dinner. He or someone in his party made a mistake when emptying the vehicle of guns and accidentally left a box of ammo in the back in plain sight. The Mexicans shook down his family for $20,000 in bribes, or something like that, to get him sprung from a Mexican prison.

Shun Mexico. Don't shop or travel there. They aren't that good neighbors. It ain't worth it.

The other function of the Mexican gun laws is to make sure the tourists being dry-gulched on the Matamoros-to-Tampico highway by corrupt Mexican cops (and some of them murdered) are unarmed. The State Department put out a warning about that, too -- but the article doesn't mention it.

[lentulusgracchus]

All firearms in Brazil must be registered with the government. This registration process can take anywhere from 30 days to three months. All civilian handguns are limited in caliber to no more than 9mm.

Well, the AMT Automag III is available in .30 Carbine, which is hotter at 100 yd than .45 ACP and 10mm are at 50 yd. Both .357 Mag and .357 SIG would fall within the Brazilian rules stated here, and some of the .30-cal. European sidearms of 60 years ago (Tokarev pistol, Mauser "broomhandle") were also hotter than anything in 9mm Parabellum.

And .38 Super, discussed above, groups energywise with .40 S&W and .44 Spl. at the muzzle.

[gimmebackmyconstitution]

Yes, I remember a news story that reported an unusually high number of the kids involved in shooting crimes in this country were being treated with psychiatric medications. So i guess the real sound bite should be "guns don't kill people, prozac does"

[Cannonphoder]

Here's an modern official report on the crime numbers:
http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/rds/pdfs2/hosb502.pdf

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

Outstanding thread. I hope to link other threads to it in the future. FRegards ....