Posted on 01/28/2005 4:28:41 PM PST by metacognative
Stay angry. I'll get back to you after I get on with my life
Because some dummies tried to put false propaganda on the front of the science texts.
What upsets me is that I share 99.9% of my genome with a worm like you. When are you going to retract your libelous accusation about Dan Dennett, which you admit you can't corroborate?
In general, such behaviour could be attributed to laziness, but since the accusation did involve concentration camps, contemptible is a pretty good word choice.
Cheers!
It's not much of a life. It appears to be based on lying to yourself and to others.
I am sure, like a good Christian, that means doing God's will.
No problem.
[For the most part I do my best to ignore these Threads......Blood pressure, and all that stuff *LOL*]
a quick google got this: go goggle.
Dennett portrayed Darwinism as "a universal solvent,
capable of cutting right to the heart of everything in
sight" -- and particularly effective in dissolving religious
beliefs. The most ardent creationist could not have said
it with more conviction, but Dennett's agreement with them
ended there. He despised creationists, arguing that "there
are no forces on this planet more dangerous to us all than
the fanaticisms of fundamentalism." Displaying a degree
of intolerance more characteristic of a fanatic Fundamentalist
than an academic philosopher, he called for "caging" those
who would deliberately misinform children about the natural
world, just as one would cage a threatening wild animal.
"The message is clear," he wrote: "those who will not accomodate,
who will not temper, who insist on keeping only the purest
and wildest strain of their heritage alive, we will be obliged,
reluctantly, to cage or disarm, and we will do our best to
disable the memes [traditions] they fight for." With the
bravado of a man unmindful that only 11 percent of the
public shared his enthusiasm for naturalistic evolution, he
warned parents that if they insisted on teaching their
children "falsehoods -- that the Earth is flat, that 'Man' is
not a product of evolution by natural selection -- then
you must expect, at the very least, that those of us who
have freedom of speech will feel free to describe your
teachings as the spreading of falsehoods, and will attempt
to demonstrate this to your children at our earliest
opportunity." Those who resisted conversion to
Dennett's scientific fundamentalism would be subject
to "quarantine."
Ooh, an antichristian. You're not right wing.
You're a darwinut liberal sympathizer!
So you hold that ichy is a evovled swine?
Ichneumon generally adds helpful links; and if you go onto his about page, has threads going back years in which he contributes quite detailed descriptions--whether cut'n'pasted, or painstakinly entered by him, I don't know.
Right Wing Professor often gets riled much more quickly; and his about page does not indicate that he is in fact a professor (as opposed to a Rush Limbaugh-esque "doctor of democracy").
I suspect part of the problem is that so many of the cre-ites (to coin a term; and I am not implying ALL, shall I just say, a disproportionate share compared to evo-ites)--do not seem to have systematic training in science, so that they are posing different questions than the ones scientists tend to ask, and ask them in vague terms, which are harder to answer mathematically.
Another difficulty is that many crevo-ites do not seem to keep up with where evolutionary theory actually is, and are debating ideas which the scientists hashed out among themselves long ago.
All of this can be quite maddening when you are confronted with the same thing "again, and Again, and AGAIN!" without even the chance to see (as you might if you were in a university setting, dealing with clueless students) their charges maturing and growing in knowledge and discipline.
Cheers!
I think (after a quick Google) that it's a quote from Dembski, discussing Dennet.
Don't post to me.
A lot of the nitpicky attitude of scientists is not there for show, but to make the task of sharing and retrieving knowledge easier, when information overload even within a sub-discipline is a distinct possibility.
Cheers!
I am sure, like a good Christian, that means doing God's will.
Ooh, an antichristian.
My mistake. Sorry.
You said that Dennett called for creationist concentration camps. Still waiting for some corroboration.
You flatter me, ma'am.
Looks like I'm gonna have to respond on entropy too.)
Don't strain yourself.
Unwilling to take a stand, but willing to cheer on a slander? You shame your namesake.
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