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Christian men called to become 'warriors', not 'nice guys'
The New Zealand Herald ^ | 26 January 2005 | Nigel Hunt

Posted on 01/28/2005 6:41:49 PM PST by Lorianne

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To: Righter-than-Rush


Alright thanks. I read their website and theres no endorsement of wife beating, but it's not as if they would openly endorse that.


21 posted on 01/28/2005 7:39:08 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell ( I'm voting Newt Gingrich in 08 ! ! !)
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To: Lorianne

The same advice holds true for conservatives who leave the street fighting to the rest of us.


22 posted on 01/28/2005 7:40:28 PM PST by international american (Tagline not convinced.............................)
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To: Righter-than-Rush


compromisers in doctine?


23 posted on 01/28/2005 7:41:31 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell ( I'm voting Newt Gingrich in 08 ! ! !)
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To: Lorianne

Ridiculous. Why can't a person be a nice guy and still be a warrior? My definition of a nice guy is exactly that. A guy who believes in God, justice, America and the family.

A person who isn't a nice guy is the guy who acts tough by beating his wife and kids. He's the coward who expects the govenment to take over his problems.

The guy who isn't a nice guy is on "COPS" being tossed into the police car while his bloody wife is standing outside her trailer.


24 posted on 01/28/2005 7:43:41 PM PST by Shooter 2.5 (Vote a Straight Republican Ballot. Rid the country of dems.)
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To: Lorianne
HERE, HERE!!!!!!

this is exactly what men need to hear....that their mission, their role, their vocation if you will here on earth is to be the leaders, and that means the leaders of character and courage as well.....

and let's face the fact that the coming confrontations with the Islamists will require a great deal of steadiness and courage under fire, both literally and figuratively...

25 posted on 01/28/2005 7:48:46 PM PST by cherry
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To: Lorianne
A good read very related to this story... It will surprise a lot of Christians to know that Jesus was a Man, not a Woman.

Click "HERE" Are Christian's Nicer than God?

26 posted on 01/28/2005 7:48:51 PM PST by LowOiL ("I am neither . I am a Christocrat" -Benjamin Rush)
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To: LauraleeBraswell
The "Promise Keepers"? Don't they beat their wives?

Yes, but only with their KJV Bible. < / sarcasm >

Are you serious or just being sarcastic?

27 posted on 01/28/2005 7:55:07 PM PST by Popman
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To: Lorianne
[ Christian men called to become 'warriors', not 'nice guys' ]

Interesting figment.. However it leads to the question, "What the hell is a christian ?"... Some christians are socialists <--meaning slavery by government.. March one of them "christians".. out here... and let's get at look at em'...

28 posted on 01/28/2005 7:56:50 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been ok'ed by me to included some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: Righter-than-Rush
They are compromisers in doctrine

Which doctrine?

Which fundamentals of the faith are they compromised on?

29 posted on 01/28/2005 7:57:44 PM PST by Popman
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To: Righter-than-Rush

What's Compromised ??


30 posted on 01/28/2005 8:01:21 PM PST by austinmark (If GOD Had Been A Liberal, We Wouldn't Have Had The Ten Commandments- We'd Have The Ten Suggestions.)
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To: Popman


No, I'm serriouse.

I live in NY, need I explain futher?


31 posted on 01/28/2005 8:03:14 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell ( I'm voting Newt Gingrich in 08 ! ! !)
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To: Lorianne; Fzob
I am amazed that Christian men need a book to tell them how to engage their families and be warriors in their life. Read your Bible and be faithful to do what it says.

We truly are a post Christian nation.

I'm sure King David needed a analysis at least twice a year to make sure he wasn't being a couch potato.

32 posted on 01/28/2005 8:03:57 PM PST by Popman
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To: austinmark
OOps that WAS to go to "Lauralee Braswell"
33 posted on 01/28/2005 8:04:34 PM PST by austinmark (If GOD Had Been A Liberal, We Wouldn't Have Had The Ten Commandments- We'd Have The Ten Suggestions.)
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To: Lorianne
"The real test of this ("Wild at Heart") is does it make life better for women? Does it make life better for children?

No, the real test is does it make better MEN ? The rest will follow.

34 posted on 01/28/2005 8:06:10 PM PST by Centurion2000 (Nations do not survive by setting examples for others. Nations survive by making examples of others)
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To: LauraleeBraswell
  1. A Promise Keeper is committed to honoring Jesus Christ through worship, prayer and obedience to God's Word in the power of the Holy Spirit.
     

  2. A Promise Keeper is committed to pursuing vital relationships with a few other men, understanding that he needs brothers to help him keep his promises.
     

  3. A Promise Keeper is committed to practicing spiritual, moral, ethical, and sexual purity.
     

  4. A Promise Keeper is committed to building strong marriages and families through love, protection and biblical values.
     

  5. A Promise Keeper is committed to supporting the mission of his church by honoring and praying for his pastor, and by actively giving his time and resources.
     

  6. A Promise Keeper is committed to reaching beyond any racial and denominational barriers to demonstrate the power of biblical unity.
     

  7. A Promise Keeper is committed to influencing his world, being obedient to the Great Commandment (see Mark 12:30-31) and the Great Commission (see Matthew 28:19-20 ).

    Promise Keepers


35 posted on 01/28/2005 8:09:17 PM PST by Popman
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To: Centurion2000

Good point. We sure got a lot of bleeding deacons on this thread. Not many Christians, though.


36 posted on 01/28/2005 8:16:13 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Lindykim; DirtyHarryY2K; Siamese Princess; Ed Current; Grampa Dave; Luircin; gonow; John O; ...

Moral Absolutes Ping.

I might be interested in reading the book if it came my way. Jesus Christ's message, from my reading, calls all of us - men and women alike - to be warriors for the truth.

Regarding male and female roles, much of what passes for behavior currently is miserable attempts to thwart nature's laws. And the effects are disastrous. Men are being emasculated and weakened, and women are trying to be men; everyone's exploiting each other, thus hardening their hearts.*

Let me know if anyone wants on/off this pinglist.
*Speaking in cultural generalizations, obviously.


37 posted on 01/28/2005 8:17:46 PM PST by little jeremiah (Moral Absolutes are what make the world go round.)
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To: LauraleeBraswell

Yes please explain.....

As For Promise Keepers,
FAQ, Their web site;

What does PK think the role of women should be? 

The role of women is not a topic we address at our events; however, we do believe husbands are called to love their wives just as Christ loved the church (Ephesians 5:25). 

Promise Keepers believes that men and women are completely equal at the foot of the cross. Paul writes in Galatians 3:28, "There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus." As we continue to pursue reconciliation in the body of Christ, we believe unity in Christ transcends ethnic, social, and gender distinctions.

Just How many "Wife Beating" Promise Keepers do you know ?


38 posted on 01/28/2005 8:25:12 PM PST by austinmark (If GOD Had Been A Liberal, We Wouldn't Have Had The Ten Commandments- We'd Have The Ten Suggestions.)
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To: Tench_Coxe

And Rosa Parks dared to sit in the wrong section of the bus......


Exactly, and she was a woman! What we need warriors to do today is battle with us, this depraved, anti-human culture that is being thrust on us and our kids in school!!

Unless we want to just sit by and allow it to continue. They get what they want by lobbying and making the most noise, we need to start making more!!


39 posted on 01/28/2005 8:26:02 PM PST by gidget7
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To: Righter-than-Rush

While this is needed, society bashes men who are men and not wimps, so without support this movement will not fly.


I think as soon as a few stand up, many more will with him. You will not want for support, if you are fighting the good fight!


40 posted on 01/28/2005 8:29:15 PM PST by gidget7
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