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Cold War Certificate (Are you a Cold War Veteran?)
U.S. Army ^ | Jan 29, 2005 | gobucks

Posted on 01/29/2005 3:31:59 AM PST by gobucks

Figured that a few Cold War vets should know about this.

*snip* Is this for real?

* Yes. In the 1998 National Defense Authorization Act, the Secretary of Defense approved awarding Cold War Recognition Certificates to all members of the armed forces and qualified federal government civilian personnel who faithfully and honorably served the United States any time during the Cold War era, Sept. 2, 1945, through Dec. 26, 1991.

* Applicants must certify that their service was "faithful and honorable", and they must supply a copy of a supporting document which proves that they served during the Cold War era. The certificate may be awarded posthumously to those whose relatives apply on their behalf.

* There is no charge for a Cold War Recognition Certificate. Note that no medal has been authorized or issued for Cold War Recognition.

* The program is scheduled to run for 10 years, so there is plenty of time to send in your request and supporting document.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: coldwar; coldwarvets; communism
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The excerpt above is from the FAQ page of the website.

Here is a preview of your certificate, the only official U.S. Gov't recognition of service during this time period.

Anyone who was paid in any U.S. Gov't line of work of any kind, not just military, gets to receive this.

Is it just me, or does this make little sense? I made 6 patrols on a nuc boat in the 80's. It was a good time to serve I think. When the wall fell, the depth of my astonishment, and sense of being pleased, can't be described.

This certificate is all that is 'official, but, good news, the answer is maybe a real military campaign medal is in the works:

Cold War Veterans .


1 posted on 01/29/2005 3:31:59 AM PST by gobucks
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To: gobucks

Gotta run for a bit, but if anyone else knows of other cold war vet sites, please post them.

(I really, really hate communists ...)


2 posted on 01/29/2005 3:33:48 AM PST by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/laocoon.htm)
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To: gobucks
They're deserving
3 posted on 01/29/2005 3:35:51 AM PST by FreedomPoster
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To: SAMWolf; Valin; CholeraJoe; alfa6; Iris7; colorado tanker; Colonel_Flagg; PhilDragoo

Any of ya'll Cold War vets too? ;-)


4 posted on 01/29/2005 3:43:03 AM PST by Professional Engineer (The number exactly halfway between +1 and -1 is not "OH".)
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To: Professional Engineer
Any of ya'll Cold War vets too? ;-)

U.S. Navy, 1965-69.

5 posted on 01/29/2005 3:45:14 AM PST by Aeronaut (You haven't seen a tree until you've seen its shadow from the sky. -- Amelia Earhart)
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To: Aeronaut

U.S.Navy, 1987-1993


6 posted on 01/29/2005 3:48:18 AM PST by EricT. (Join the Soylent Green Party...We recycle dead environmentalists.)
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To: Aeronaut

Man, I was racking my brain for Foxhole names, and missed you. Too early.

Thanks for serving.


7 posted on 01/29/2005 3:48:41 AM PST by Professional Engineer (The number exactly halfway between +1 and -1 is not "OH".)
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To: Aeronaut

U.S. Navy, 1988-92.


8 posted on 01/29/2005 3:50:06 AM PST by Tarpaulin (Look it up.)
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To: Professional Engineer

My husband will be interested in this....he served in the full time army 1977-1986...also put in 18yrs in the army reserves.....

My dad joined the army the day he turned 18, Nov of 1940....he was the navigator on the planes that flew back and forth between California, and the Phillipines and Burma, dropping supplies, and picking up the wounded...but he was not discharged from the army until Dec of 1945, so altho he fought in WW11, he would also qualify for the Cold War Award....hes gone now, but he would be so proud...


9 posted on 01/29/2005 3:56:15 AM PST by andysandmikesmom
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To: Tarpaulin

U.S. Navy 1974-78


10 posted on 01/29/2005 3:58:17 AM PST by Elderberry
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To: Professional Engineer

My husband is. USMC 1989- to the present.


11 posted on 01/29/2005 3:59:47 AM PST by Millicent_Hornswaggle
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To: Professional Engineer

Count me in. (U.S. Air Force 1975 - 79)


12 posted on 01/29/2005 4:02:13 AM PST by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier!)
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To: Professional Engineer
Count me in. (U.S. Air Force 1975 - 79)

I saw Hillary Clinton is sponsoring the cold war medal Bill.

That does not thrill me a whole hell of alot.

13 posted on 01/29/2005 4:05:34 AM PST by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier!)
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To: gobucks

Good to see ya Boomer sailor! Spent my time on 627s and 688s. '77 to '87. Are you a SubVets member?


14 posted on 01/29/2005 4:06:26 AM PST by 75thOVI (Any ship can be a submarine...............once!)
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To: Professional Engineer

U.S.Navy Sea Bees, 1959-1962, Kidde Cruiser ;)


15 posted on 01/29/2005 4:08:28 AM PST by G.Mason (A war mongering, UN hating, military industrial complex loving, Al Qaeda incinerating American.)
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To: gobucks

I made 6 patrols on a nuc boat in the 80's.

Boomers or fast attack? Road boomers through the 60s 70 & into the late 80s.

16 posted on 01/29/2005 4:21:17 AM PST by ancient_geezer (Don't reform it, Replace it!!)
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To: Professional Engineer

U.S. Army (Military Police) 1971-1980


17 posted on 01/29/2005 4:22:14 AM PST by Drammach (Freedom; not just a job, it's an adventure..)
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To: Drammach

US Army 1986-1992


18 posted on 01/29/2005 4:31:39 AM PST by momincombatboots (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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To: gobucks

Do we reservists count? 1982-1992.


19 posted on 01/29/2005 4:33:49 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Professional Engineer

US Navy Fleet Air Recon (VQ) 1966 - 1970.


20 posted on 01/29/2005 4:36:11 AM PST by xvq2er
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To: Larry Lucido

Plus I was in Cambodia on Christmas 1968. Or 1978. I think it was Cambodia, anyway. Maybe it was Easter. Reagan was President.


21 posted on 01/29/2005 4:36:48 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: gobucks
Is it just me, or does this make little sense?

It does make sense in a way.
In the early 70’s I was an E5 platoon Sargent. Every man in my platoon had been to Viet Nam, and most had ribbons in addition to the standard three, including Purple Hearts, Bronze Stars and one Silver Star. Our 1st Sgt had somehow never made it over. Our CO and XO were too new and had only the National Defense Service medal. Over the next few years we had a lot of shake and bake NCOs making their appearance – again with nothing but the National Defense ribbon on their chest.
Some must have bitched – they were senior to their troops, but had only one little ribbon. Over the next few years we were inundated with ribbons. I was issued the NCO professional Development Ribbon for attending a school, the Army Service Ribbon for being in the Army and the Overseas Service Ribbon for being overseas. Now even those new troops had some pretty ribbons for their uniform. It made them feel good.
22 posted on 01/29/2005 4:37:41 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: Professional Engineer

US Army October 1965 – July 1986.


23 posted on 01/29/2005 4:38:45 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: Ax

They are playing your song..


24 posted on 01/29/2005 4:39:31 AM PST by cardinal4 (W's 3.5 million pop vote isnt a mandate, but algores .5 million is??)
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To: Professional Engineer

2nd ACR 80-87 (East German-Czech Borders)
USSF 89-99 (Bad Toelz & Stuttgart, FRG)


25 posted on 01/29/2005 4:54:30 AM PST by Sarajevo (Sarajevo is the beginning of 20th century history.)
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To: Larry Lucido
"Do we reservists count? 1982-1992."

Hey! I say that your service counted!

I was a NG cbt. engr. (cbt.--not constr.) for seven years and gave up the vanity stuff (awards, politics for rank, etc.). The last unit (one year there after a transfer) erased two of my ribbons (one a superior unit award that our commander told us no subsequent unit could take away), but I let that go, too, along with the lost LODs for the knees (waived surgeries, continued training).

...went through the divorce (affair by the ex that started while I was in the field), was pushed out of the university English Program by feminazis (who didn't like my new haircut after three months at Ft. Leonard Wood), was refused a number of jobs explicity because I was in the Guard, put up with a platoon sargeant who was an effeminate, vindictive social worker and had no experience in my MOS,...

...did my part, worked hard, stayed out of trouble, and that's all that counts.
26 posted on 01/29/2005 5:11:53 AM PST by familyop ("Let us try" sounds better, don't you think? "Essayons" is so...Latin.)
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To: gobucks
U.S. Army. 82-85. air defense. Spent two years playing grab-ass with russian migs 20k's from the czechoslovakian border.

I've known about this certificate for a while. I've never been that interested in a plaque on the wall, but that flag! That's going to end up in my gun room for sure.

27 posted on 01/29/2005 5:11:54 AM PST by bad company (if guns cause crime, then keyboards cause spelling mistakes)
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To: Professional Engineer

I did two missile patrols on the USS Lafayette in the 80's, then transferred to an SSN for the remainder of my enlistment.


28 posted on 01/29/2005 5:19:51 AM PST by Bryanw92
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To: gobucks

I always thought the National Defense Medal covered the Cold War but then it has been extended.
My VietNam Service medals are enough for me but I do Honor All Who Served. The flag and patch are neat and the rocket is a space launcher which I did rather than an ICBM. So I will prob buy those and mebe join. Thanks for the link.


29 posted on 01/29/2005 5:34:35 AM PST by larryjohnson (USAF(ret))
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To: Jen

To my fav cold war gal(but you are hot)


30 posted on 01/29/2005 5:38:37 AM PST by larryjohnson (USAF(ret))
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To: gobucks

*shrug* United States Navy '84-'97. Didn't do it for the recognition, though.


31 posted on 01/29/2005 5:39:17 AM PST by Doohickey ("This is a hard and dirty war, but when it's over, nothing will ever be too difficult again.)
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To: gobucks

I retired in 92. Served in Germany twice and with GDP alerts knew which tree I was supposed to die next to. We supported 2ACR on the border. Nothing like being a speed bump. LOL Was also there for the Wall and the time leading up to the fall.

Was on the DMZ (Infantryman) in Korea in 78. That was interesting to say the least. They've approved a Korea medal for people like me. I'll probably put in for it.

I've put in for the Cold War Cert (finally). I didn't want it during the Clinton administration but having Rumsfeld signature on it would be very cool (to match the Bush signature on my retirement certificate).

My unit visited East Berlin while up there training at the Combat in Cities site in 82. I saw the white crosses along the wall commemorating those who died trying to get across the border. I see this certificate as a way to honor them.


32 posted on 01/29/2005 5:39:30 AM PST by edfrank_1998
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To: Professional Engineer

Me: USMC 1979-1985

Husband: Retired USMC 1976 - 1997


33 posted on 01/29/2005 5:42:49 AM PST by gljones (Semper Fi USMC 1979-1985 dh USMC Retired 1976-1997)
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To: Professional Engineer
U S Army March 71 - December 73

Not sure what I would do with the certificate nor where I would wear a medal. Long since moved on down the road ...........

God Bless.

34 posted on 01/29/2005 5:44:01 AM PST by HoustonCurmudgeon (Redneck from a red city, in a red county, in a red state.)
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To: HoustonCurmudgeon

Looks like I qualify:
US MARINES 1981-1992

And hubby:
US MARINES (retired) 1979-2002

Hubby actually waited until after Clinton was gone to retire. He refused to have that signature on his retirement certificate.


35 posted on 01/29/2005 6:27:42 AM PST by Marinefamilyx3
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To: gobucks


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http://www.WeWereSoldiers.com

http://www.lzxray.com

http://www.lzxray.com/guyer_set1.htm

http://www.lzxray.com/guyer_set2.htm

http://www.lzxray.com/guyer_set3.htm

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36 posted on 01/29/2005 6:35:39 AM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: edfrank_1998
My Husband was Navy counterintelligence. He escorted Gary Powers and the U-2 over Russia. Was actually shot down and took them weeks to walk out. He said that any bad feelings that he ever had for the Marines vanished the instant that the crew was found.

Lots went on during the cold war that people in the states never knew about, and still don't until this day.
37 posted on 01/29/2005 6:36:24 AM PST by Coldwater Creek ('We voted like we prayed")
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To: gobucks

No medal designed yet?

How about Stalin reading "Mein Kampf" to Hillary.


38 posted on 01/29/2005 6:38:48 AM PST by sergeantdave (Smart growth is Marxist insects agitating for a collective hive.)
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To: gobucks



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HAL G. MOORE: The Legacy and Lessons of an American Warrior

http://www.armchairgeneral.com/page_left_column.php?content=show_curr_issue_0904a

http://www.war-forums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14752&page=1

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39 posted on 01/29/2005 6:43:17 AM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: Professional Engineer

U.S. Army 1968 - 1971. :-)


41 posted on 01/29/2005 6:43:58 AM PST by SAMWolf (Never make the same mistake twice. There are too many new ones to try)
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To: gobucks

US Navy, 1961 - 1981


42 posted on 01/29/2005 6:53:23 AM PST by CPOSharky (Demoncrat speak - "Bipartisan" is only used when Republicans are the majority.)
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To: Professional Engineer

U S N 1962 - 1966


43 posted on 01/29/2005 6:57:09 AM PST by Archer24
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To: gobucks

http://www.chinfo.navy.mil/navpalib/questions/coldwar.html


44 posted on 01/29/2005 7:01:37 AM PST by visitor (...and the dems wonder why they lost and will continue to lose, good riddance)
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To: gobucks
I did my bit for the cold war.

I was a member of a Marine Detachment aboard Navy ships for my first tour. Which leads to a funny story.

In damn near every port there was at least one soviet-paid local who would buy servicemen drinks and try to get them to talk about their jobs. I got totally wasted on their dime, while feeding them total bull---t. Once I told one of these idiots that I was the ships hangman! He ate it up and bought me more drinks.

I wonder what his paymaster had to say when he made his report. :)

45 posted on 01/29/2005 7:03:39 AM PST by LibKill (I am used to the Darkness)
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To: Professional Engineer

US Navy: 1974-1988, ARNG: 1997-present.


46 posted on 01/29/2005 7:08:39 AM PST by tupac
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To: gobucks

I didn't mean to hijack your thread.

BTW, USAF 1983-1991.


47 posted on 01/29/2005 7:13:05 AM PST by Professional Engineer (The number exactly halfway between +1 and -1 is not "OH".)
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To: Professional Engineer

I got my certificate shortly after they were authorized....it's hanging proudly in my office!


48 posted on 01/29/2005 7:21:00 AM PST by BamaDi
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To: Professional Engineer

OK since everyone is putting in their time I will also; mine was as a DoD civilian l969 till l991; now DoJ civilian l991 till August 1, 2005!!!! and I'm more than ready to hang it up! Congratulations and much admiration to all on here that served our great country! God bless America!


49 posted on 01/29/2005 7:25:15 AM PST by BamaDi
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To: FreedomPoster

Thanks for that link; never heard of it before...


50 posted on 01/29/2005 7:26:10 AM PST by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/laocoon.htm)
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