Archeologist finds evidence of Old Testament Validity

Catholic News Agency ^ | January 28, 2005

[narses]

Communism was a major enemy. Vast resources, dedicated and disciplined operatives. Read "Dedication and Leadership" by Douglas Hyde.

[fish hawk]

You are right but who would believe a chronic loser? ;^)

[aspiring.hillbilly]

The Bible says different from 1 Timothy 3:2

The overseer therefore must be without reproach, the husband of one wife, temperate, sensible, modest, hospitable, good at teaching; WEB

The bishop therefore must be without reproach, the husband of one wife, temperate, sober-minded, orderly, given to hospitality, apt to teach;

The Bishop, then, is to be a man of good name, the husband of one wife, self-controlled, serious-minded, having respect for order, opening his house freely to guests, a ready teacher;

The Bible says Bishops are free to have one wife....this is in the Catholic Bible and not obeyed by the Church for whatever reason..

[Salvation]

I think this is all amazing! (And predictable!) Human weakenesses and mistakes are finally being corrected.

[aspiring.hillbilly]

All the homosexual acting-out-with-young-boys priests that were shuffled around from parish to parish when caught ai it,,,To the contrary-- What kind of condemnation is that?

[FatherofFive]

Your ignorance of the Catholic Church is apparent in your comments. This is not surprising. Most anti-Catholics are not well-informed about the Church, and early church history.

Most of the epistles were written to local churches that were experiencing moral and/or doctrinal problems. Paul and most of the other New Testament writers sent letters to these local churches (e.g., 1 and 2 Corinthians and Galatians) in order to rectify these problems. There was no attempt on the part of the writers to impart a vast body of basic doctrinal instruction to non-believers, nor even to simply summarize everything for the believers who received the letters. Look - the Christian faith existed and flourished for years before the first book of the New Testament was written. The books of the New Testament were composed decades after Christ ascended into heaven, and it took centuries for there to be general agreement among Christians as to which books comprised the New Testament. Early Christians did not sit around reading the Bible. There was no NT Bible in the early Church! The Church Christ established was – and remains – the Catholic Church.

Please do the following - go to www.catholic.com

Go to the library section, and look at the actual teachings of the Church, not some biased or bigoted misrepresentation. And get a copy of Karl Keating's “Catholicism and Fundamentalism”

You need to know what you believe.

[Fiddlstix]

They go hand-in-hand. Without the OT, there would never have been a New Testament.

Well said.

[CouncilofTrent]

See, one must understand that after the 60's, the Church, I feel, became more liberal. The Church position stands though.

[Ciexyz]

Good news bump.

[narses]

"The Bible says different from 1 Timothy 3:2"

As you interpret it, maybe.

Read the early Church Fathers and Doctors though and you'll discover a different story.

As I said earlier, married priests and bishops exist in the Church, just as celibate priests and bishops do.

Are you suggesting that ONLY married men can be priests? Who is your priest and is he/she married?

[narses]

Public schools have long done the same. Your point?

[narses]

Good post, thanks.

[FatherofFive]

"Do you believe in transubstantiation? That strictly obeys the word of the Bible."

Great point, Council. When I talk with people on this topic, I use the line, "When Christ said 'This is my Body', we Catholics don't have to debate what the meaning of "is" is.

Most non-catholics do not know that Catholic doctrines are the most literal translations of the Bible.

[narses]

Great point. No member of the Church, no cleric, no council can alter one jot or tittle of the Deposit of Faith, including Sacred Scripture. When God say No Divorce, He meant NO DIVORCE. Therefore the Church has never and will never allow divorce. There are many more examples, yours is central and key. Thank you.

[CouncilofTrent]

Not like Clinton :)

[aspiring.hillbilly]

And the Bible stays the same through out the ages,,,,seems the Church's liberal veering into the ditch is not a good thing... come to think of it liberals mess up everything they come into contact with, why should the Church excape that fate?

[CouncilofTrent]

The Church is a divine institution. It is overseen by God and can never be destroyed. Those in the Church may try to subvert it, but they will never succeed. "And the gates of Hell shall never prevail against it" (i think thats how it goes).

[balrog666]

With Christianity under attack from every quarter,

Is everybody this paranoid around here?

[CouncilofTrent]

Cool cat on your profile.

[narses]

You keep confusing the men and women of the Church with the Church. The Church Christ founded is intact, indefectible and immaculate. Flawed and sinful men are just that.

So what parts of the Bible do you reject? I assume you have a married Bishop, right? Who is that person? OIr have you rejected 1 Timothy 3:2?