Just doin' my part.
Posted on 01/29/2005 1:53:47 PM PST by Pokey78
WASHINGTON
By the time House Republicans were finished with him, Bill Clinton must have thought of a thong as a torture device.
For the Bush administration, it actually is.
A former American Army sergeant who worked as an Arabic interpreter at Gitmo has written a book pulling back the veil on the astounding ways female interrogators used a toxic combination of sex and religion to try to break Muslim detainees at the U.S. prison camp in Cuba. It's not merely disgusting. It's beyond belief.
The Bush administration never worries about anything. But these missionaries and zealous protectors of values should be worried about the American soul. The president never mentions Osama, but he continues to use 9/11 as an excuse for American policies that bend the rules and play to our worst instincts.
"I have really struggled with this because the detainees, their families and much of the world will think this is a religious war based on some of the techniques used, even though it is not the case," the former sergeant, Erik R. Saar, 29, told The Associated Press. The A.P. got a manuscript of his book, deemed classified pending a Pentagon review.
What good is it for President Bush to speak respectfully of Islam and claim Iraq is not a religious war if the Pentagon denigrates Islamic law - allowing its female interrogators to try to make Muslim men talk in late-night sessions featuring sexual touching, displays of fake menstrual blood, and parading in miniskirt, tight T-shirt, bra and thong underwear?
It's like a bad porn movie, "The Geneva Monologues." All S and no M.
The A.P. noted that "some Guantánamo prisoners who have been released say they were tormented by 'prostitutes.' "
Mr. Saar writes about what he calls "disturbing" practices during his time in Gitmo from December 2002 to June 2003, including this anecdote related by Paisley Dodds, an A.P. reporter:
A female military interrogator who wanted to turn up the heat on a 21-year-old Saudi detainee who allegedly had taken flying lessons in Arizona before 9/11 removed her uniform top to expose a snug T-shirt. She began belittling the prisoner - who was praying with his eyes closed - as she touched her breasts, rubbed them against the Saudi's back and commented on his apparent erection.
After the prisoner spat in her face, she left the room to ask a Muslim linguist how she could break the prisoner's reliance on God. The linguist suggested she tell the prisoner that she was menstruating, touch him, and then shut off the water in his cell so he couldn't wash.
"The concept was to make the detainee feel that after talking to her he was unclean and was unable to go before his God in prayer and gain strength," Mr. Saar recounted, adding: "She then started to place her hands in her pants as she walked behind the detainee. As she circled around him he could see that she was taking her hand out of her pants. When it became visible the detainee saw what appeared to be red blood on her hand. She said, 'Who sent you to Arizona?' He then glared at her with a piercing look of hatred. She then wiped the red ink on his face. He shouted at the top of his lungs, spat at her and lunged forward," breaking out of an ankle shackle.
"He began to cry like a baby," the author wrote, adding that the interrogator's parting shot was: "Have a fun night in your cell without any water to clean yourself."
A female civilian contractor kept her "uniform" - a thong and miniskirt - on the back of the door of an interrogation room, the author says.
Who are these women? Who allows this to happen? Why don't the officers who allow it get into trouble? Why do Rummy and Paul Wolfowitz still have their jobs?
The military did not deny the specifics, but said the prisoners were treated "humanely" and in a way consistent "with legal obligations prohibiting torture." However the Bush White House is redefining torture these days, the point is this: Such behavior degrades the women who are doing it, the men they are doing it to, and the country they are doing it for.
There's nothing wrong with trying to squeeze information out of detainees. But isn't it simply more effective to throw them in isolation and try to build some sort of relationship?
I doubt that the thong tease works as well on inmates at Gitmo as it did on Bill Clinton in the Oval Office.
It's 1:54 P.M. PST, January 29, 2005. And Maureen Dowd is still looking for her first sexual experience.
"He began to cry like a baby," the author wrote, adding that the interrogator's parting shot was: "Have a fun night in your cell without any water to clean yourself."
LOL
The libs will sure be pissed about this. Those prisoners are getting for free what they have to pay for on the corner.
Here is my suggestion to end all this "torture": JUST SHOOT THEM.
So Dowd is breaking with the usual feminist tradition--which says our female military should have all the freedoms they want in Muslim-controlled areas--and advocating that our soldiers (who of course can't break that line dividing church and state) conduct themselves along Muslim guidelines?
They're calling THAT torture...seems pretty weak compared to making them wear panties on their heads.
Ne-VER-mind.
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You go girl! I loved it. Make those islamofacist squirm. This is some of the best news I've heard from Gitmo in a long time.
Maureen you ignorant slut. Why not take him out for dinner, buy him a cigar, pay for a new condo. That should make for a sort of relationship. And when you're done playing kissey face, he'll slice your throat and leave you for dead you assinine wh@re. Go keep bill busy, would ya?
How do I get my butt sentenced to Gittmo? They would have to do that to me 24/7! Oh, I'd be cry'in like a baby alright!!!
Oh my lord! Quick! Somebody call Amnesty International!
What next? The "comfy" chair?
Heaven forfend! Torture by lap dance.
Cry me an effing river!
(s)perhaps "torture" by Hitlary was why Bill Clinton turned to monica?(/s0
I just love these Dowd threads!!!
What a fox. I just can't believe that Douglas crawls into bed with that every night.
"And you don't have any of these pics to contribute??"
LOL, NOW I get it!
I'm a little slow.
You gotta be kidding....is that what Ms. Dowd (y) thinks
is inhumane?
What about the stuff we gotta endure on daytime TV and
nighttime TV?...with all the sluts/prostitutes/pimps/
murderers,,,and all the real ones hanging out in our
cities/streets/malls...all least Ms Dowd should rail
against that if she wants to BE CONSISTENT.
Hey, Maureen, writing a column has certainly not opened
your eyes (or brain) at all. My condolences to your parents.
If that column is the best you can do, get a McJob.
It's Cuba, she was probably hot. The rest might be a figment of a Muslim imagination set aflame by the sight of a woman in a tight T-shirt.
If this is torture, I'll have some thank you very much.
Thanks. I was watching a basketball game while posting & forgot Mrs. Douglas.
maureen dowd..."There's nothing wrong with trying to squeeze information out of detainees. But isn't it simply more effective to throw them in isolation and try to build some sort of relationship with them?..."
1. How would you know?...you don't have a clue what "isolation" is, crum cake.
2.No...you're just wrong again.
3.The lady interrogator WAS trying to build a relationship, ya twit.
4.Why do you write political op-ed pieces when your strong suit is obviously space?
"What next? The "comfy" chair?"
ROFLMAO!!!!!
That's what the libs would like to give them, alright.
Meanwhile, back in Britain, they must now learn to defend themselves against thugs armed with point-ed sticks, as her majesty's gov't is now about to restrict knives. The gun ban having failed to stop crime.
Got any more pictures?
Like "Cat"herine Zeta Jones suits?
Honestly, how can anyone without a predispostion to hate America be horrified by nonsense like this?
Grow up, Maureen.
where do I go to get thrown in this jail......I"ve been bad and need to be tortured a bit......
Go ahead... come at me with that banana
Maureen is such a loser.
Or this one.
**jaw hits floor**
**Steps on tongue**
"What a fox. I just can't believe that Douglas crawls into bed with that every night."
Seems like a waste, doesn't it?
This isn't torture...it's an evening at Hooters! All that's missing is the hot wings.
hu-hu-huh! boy oh boy is that ever.....whats the word.....oh fun ny. Maureen Dowd is just like Ann Coulter....without the beauty, brains or humor!
Shore do.
Yup, with the big, comfy headphones....
That's how I feel too .. this is NOT torture.
The whole goal is to get the person's attention. Sometimes you can do it with intimidation, threats, ridicule, etc. But .. NONE OF THOSE THINGS ARE TORTURE.
Saddam performed torture - cut off hands, arms, heads, put people in tree shredder machines (while they were still alive), hung women by their hair, hung women by their feet - allowing their menstrul blood to cover their bodies .. THAT IS TORTURE. And .. I've seen the films.
If Mo Dowdy did not exist, we would have to invent her.
And the beer....
I surrender - I'll tell everything!!!
Hehehehehehe, followed by "Oh, my Allah, are those things real?"
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