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PASADENA (TEXAS) OFFICER SHOOTS, KILLS MAN (HISPANIC) WITH GUN
The Houston Chronicle ^ | 29 January 2005 | Paige Hewitt

Posted on 01/29/2005 3:11:10 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

A Pasadena police officer fatally shot a man today after the victim reportedly point a gun at him, police said. Two officers were dispatched to the Hacienda Isbell Apartments, around 12:30 p.m., after residents reported that a man was firing a gun in the apartment courtyard. Officials did not release the identification of the victim, who was pronounced dead at 2:07 p.m. at Memorial Hermann Hospital. The victim is believed to have been in his 20s, according to Pasadena Police spokesman Martin DeLeon.

When the officers arrived at the scene they went to an apartment where nine Hispanic men were drinking, DeLeon said. One of the men inside the apartment allegedly pointed a gun at one of the officers, he said. The officer then fired at least twice, striking the man in the chest, DeLeon said. Witnesses told police the victim is the same man who was seen shooting in the courtyard earlier. The other eight men in the apartment were taken into custody for questioning.


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They're just pointing guns at police officers no one else wants to point guns at and causing problems no one else wants to cause. Be my guess, more than half of the fellows in the apartment were illegal aliens, but the MSM will never tell us that or research to find out if that is indeed the case.
1 posted on 01/29/2005 3:11:10 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

"They're just pointing guns at police officers no one else wants to point guns at..."

You are correct, sir!

Our gangbangers are asleep at the wheel, too much MTV and BET for them. We must import large amounts of foreign lawbreakers to keep the police busy.

I blame the Jews.


2 posted on 01/29/2005 3:15:44 PM PST by jocon307 (Ann Coulter was right)
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To: FITZ

The headline is confusing...it begs the question, what else could he have shot him with? Kudos to the officer for superb shooting skills in the face of danger. Next time, amigos, no apunten la pistola al policía. Así se queda vivo.


3 posted on 01/29/2005 3:16:10 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
A Pasadena police officer fatally shot a man today after the victim reportedly point a gun at him

Not a "victim" just a fool.
First rule of survival is you never never ever point a gun at a cop.
4 posted on 01/29/2005 3:16:32 PM PST by 76834
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To: Blue Jays
Hi All-

"...Hacienda Isbell Apartments..."

Even the names of apartment complexes in our country attract illegals. Close the borders NOW.

~ Blue Jays ~

5 posted on 01/29/2005 3:17:07 PM PST by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: 76834

Good observation...didn't see that, stupid me. If the officer were to have died, he would have been a well-deserving cadaver? Idiot journalists.


6 posted on 01/29/2005 3:18:15 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

cops must have been gringo imperialists.

what the heck...they were just here to cut grass, drink and point guns at cops.

lets give amnesty to another 30 million or so....no biggie...family values being so universal and all.


i always hated "anglo" culture anyhow....slavery and all ..

blah...blah ...blah.....where's the FR La Raza crowd?

they're late!


7 posted on 01/29/2005 3:19:39 PM PST by wardaddy (I don't think Muslims are good for America....just a gut instinct thing.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
It's a reaction to that celebrated case where the cop shot the perp with a can of whipped cream, and it turned out the perp was either REALLY lactose-intolerant or allergic to peanut oil.

C'mon, Mene, the LSM is just trying to make certain that we morons understand ALL the ''facts''.

;^)

8 posted on 01/29/2005 3:20:11 PM PST by SAJ
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To: jocon307

What?? You are not blaming Bush!

You must be a B. Boxer and Teddy "Water torture" Kennedy fan.


9 posted on 01/29/2005 3:24:02 PM PST by Tannerone
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

I'm guessing if it were a white perp you'd put that in your header?


10 posted on 01/29/2005 3:27:42 PM PST by annyokie (If the shoe fits, put 'em both on!)
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To: wardaddy

Don't worry. With that title, I expect at least one of the three amigos to show up and explain why this is all the fault of us lazy Americans.


11 posted on 01/29/2005 3:29:27 PM PST by monkeywrench
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

BTTT


12 posted on 01/29/2005 3:31:39 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: annyokie

Where have you been dear?

it's just not interesting when whites are killed by anyone unless they are celebrities or pregnant and the perp hires a glamour lawyer.

now if a minority is killed by a white cop or citizen, the fun starts.

we have a new Cincinnati thread right now here on that very form of entertaiment.

we really are living in a Bonfire of the Vanities world...like a bad movie but a good book..lol


13 posted on 01/29/2005 3:33:51 PM PST by wardaddy (I don't think Muslims are good for America....just a gut instinct thing.)
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To: jocon307

funniest post of the day. Well done.


14 posted on 01/29/2005 3:36:12 PM PST by Jack Black
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Houston doesn't have a serious crime problem because we have good law enforcement. A man was shooting off a gun in an apartment complex. The man was shot dead by the police.

That's law enforcement. The police didn't stop to complain about immigrants or blame President Bush. Houston police treated a crime as a crime, not an immigration situation.

If the man had killed a police officer and survived, we would have executed him.

If California and certain other cities would follow suite they wouldn't have as much a crime problem either.

15 posted on 01/29/2005 3:37:16 PM PST by bayourod (Gun grabbers won't stop with "ASAULT" weapons nor anti-immigrants with "ILLEGAL" immigrants.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

I don't understand the point you are trying to make. It doesn't make any difference if he was an illegal alien or not, anyone who points a gun at a police officer is going to get shot. Me, you, anyone.


16 posted on 01/29/2005 3:37:43 PM PST by Ditter
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To: wardaddy

How's your ticker, honey? Missed you, too! (Honest)

I just get pissed off about these type of threads. I have cousins who are LEO's who happen to be ethnic. I guess that's important when reporting a story.


17 posted on 01/29/2005 3:38:33 PM PST by annyokie (If the shoe fits, put 'em both on!)
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To: monkeywrench

lol.....someone will be called bigot or racist within 50 posts.


and one of the sanctimonious three amigos will run to the AM to cry "Mommy!!!!"


to be fair though....there are a few very decent freepers who disagree with me on this la Migra contention in varying degrees and I regret that.....and before they get cranked up...there are threads and pics on this forum documenting my physical and monetary support for W but I have the right to disagree with him a bit....nobody is perfect...not even Dubbers....he is way off on this...IMHO.

as for the high and mighty...well...it's like ducks in a barrel ain't it?


18 posted on 01/29/2005 3:38:48 PM PST by wardaddy (I don't think Muslims are good for America....just a gut instinct thing.)
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To: 76834

They called the guy a "victim" about 10 times in the article.


19 posted on 01/29/2005 3:39:19 PM PST by CaptainAwesome2
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin; jocon307; 76834; Blue Jays; wardaddy; SAJ
I'm interested to know if the first 6 posters are from Pasadena, or Texas. At all.

I'm interested to know if they've ever stood on a street corner at dawn with the wetbacks, looking for work.

For a mostly enlightened forum, I'm surprised at the hateful invective levelled at the illegal aliens from Mexico. There is no illegal alien crime wave taking place in our state that they're responsible for, other than not being papered. Crime ain't gonna drop drastically by closing the borders.

That said, dude got what he was asking for. Good shot, officer.

20 posted on 01/29/2005 3:40:12 PM PST by Churchjack
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To: Churchjack

I can tell you that several of them are in Texas because I've met them.


21 posted on 01/29/2005 3:43:17 PM PST by ChefKeith (Apply here to be added to the NASCAR Ping List, Daytona is comming soon...)
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To: annyokie

My ticker is ok......one year anniversary today.

For the record....I have nothing against ethnic cops. I actually like most cops these days. They are my friends.....never thought I'd say that back in my long haired Marley days in the early 70s..lol

I'm Southern provincial. I would be deemed ethnic myself at most fancy giddyups in Manhattan or the Left Coast.....like a very clumsy Crocodile Dundee sans the wit and charm. My daughters being half Brasilian are ethnic I suppose.

BTW....I wholeheartedly support blanket amnesty for all foreign Miss Universe or Miss World or any other beauty contestant or if they have been on a decent mag cover or just shave under their arms.

I am not a complete Xenophobe.


22 posted on 01/29/2005 3:45:18 PM PST by wardaddy (I don't think Muslims are good for America....just a gut instinct thing.)
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To: Churchjack

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1292334/posts Inform yourself.


23 posted on 01/29/2005 3:48:42 PM PST by monkeywrench
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To: Churchjack

don't say "wetdack".....you can get banned by JR.....trust me.

for some reason, the Fresno folks really don't like that word.


24 posted on 01/29/2005 3:52:27 PM PST by wardaddy (I don't think Muslims are good for America....just a gut instinct thing.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
officer fatally shot a man today after the victim reportedly point a gun at him

On my list of reasons to kill a man pointing a gun at me is right up at the top of the list.
25 posted on 01/29/2005 3:52:27 PM PST by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

You missed one thread the other day --- we're never supposed to guess a criminal might be from a country like Mexico that has a high rate of violence in it --- you're supposed to suspect that these criminals are from the American hispanics who have been here for many many generations. In fact it's somehow racist to think they could be of the recently immigrated bunch instead of one of those long time American hispanics.


26 posted on 01/29/2005 3:53:42 PM PST by FITZ
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To: jocon307
paige.hewitt@chron.com

That is the email address of the author of the article.

27 posted on 01/29/2005 3:54:24 PM PST by SALChamps03
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To: wardaddy

Yet Cesar Chavez himself often used that same word, even in interviews. And the Mexican press calls them "mojados" which is the same thing. I wonder if calling yankees "snowbirds" can get you banned?


28 posted on 01/29/2005 3:55:22 PM PST by FITZ
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Hey, maybe they had just purchased a new firearm and were testing it out in the courtyard. I mean, these people moved here to share our way of life right? They believe in the Bill of Rights and the Constitution and everyone is trying to stifle their newfound freedom. Sheesh.
29 posted on 01/29/2005 3:57:44 PM PST by dljordan
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To: wardaddy

LOL You and Papa-Okie, he loves those Miss Universe gals.

I'm glad your ticker is doing good! Blessings to you and your chillen from a fellow ethnic (read Sothrener.)


30 posted on 01/29/2005 3:58:26 PM PST by annyokie (If the shoe fits, put 'em both on!)
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To: wardaddy
lol.....someone will be called bigot or racist within 50 posts.

I learned my lesson --- boy --- I suspect these criminals had to have come from one of those non-immigrant hispanic families --- maybe from northern New Mexico -- maybe the Santa Fe area. Thinking that way I can't be called a racist --- because even though "race" of the criminals isn't in question --- it's only racist if you think they could have come from Mexico.

31 posted on 01/29/2005 3:58:59 PM PST by FITZ
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To: FITZ

folks call me redneck....inbred....or neo-confederate or bigot or racist or unenlightened ..all the time around here.

i have steeled my rather sensitive nature to accept such slings and arrows as flattery.


32 posted on 01/29/2005 4:00:51 PM PST by wardaddy (I don't think Muslims are good for America....just a gut instinct thing.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
The headline is confusing...it begs the question, what else could he have shot him with?

I think it means...the policeman shot a Hispanic man that was welding a gun...

But I could be wrong.....

33 posted on 01/29/2005 4:01:46 PM PST by Osage Orange ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Rodham Clinton)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
I have to take the cop's side on this one.

Pointing a weapon at someone is a good way to get hurt. Especially in Texas.

34 posted on 01/29/2005 4:01:58 PM PST by LibKill (Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.)
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To: annyokie

Thank You.

God bless.


35 posted on 01/29/2005 4:02:52 PM PST by wardaddy (I don't think Muslims are good for America....just a gut instinct thing.)
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To: annyokie
I have cousins who are LEO's who happen to be ethnic

I'm part Pottawatomie and a Gemini..

36 posted on 01/29/2005 4:05:47 PM PST by Osage Orange ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Rodham Clinton)
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To: bayourod
Unless he managed to escape to the motherland.....

If the man had killed a police officer and survived, we would have executed him.

37 posted on 01/29/2005 4:05:58 PM PST by Ready4Freddy (Veni Vidi Velcro)
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To: Churchjack

Well, I'm currently in New Jersey (Hudson County, Jihad Central, USA) and born and raised in NYC.

And one thing that changed for me on 9/11/01 was my reversal of my open borders conservatism.


38 posted on 01/29/2005 4:08:37 PM PST by jocon307 (Ann Coulter was right)
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To: Tannerone

"You are not blaming Bush!"

Of course not. Sr. Bush, he's more pro-Mexican than Sr. Fox. Fox wants to get rid of the Mexicans and Bush wants to take them im.


39 posted on 01/29/2005 4:10:44 PM PST by jocon307 (Ann Coulter was right)
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To: Churchjack
There is no illegal alien crime wave taking place in our state that they're responsible for, other than not being papered. Crime ain't gonna drop drastically by closing the borders.

I used to live in Orange & Riverside Counties in SoCal....So I have a reasonably real and I'd say valid opinion.

Although I can't give you facts and figures...I'd bet you a hundred hedge apples..that crime in SoCal would drop if the borders were effectively closed.

FRegards,

40 posted on 01/29/2005 4:11:09 PM PST by Osage Orange ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Rodham Clinton)
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To: Jack Black

Thanks jack!

I'll be here all week!


41 posted on 01/29/2005 4:11:34 PM PST by jocon307 (Ann Coulter was right)
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To: Churchjack
There is no illegal alien crime wave taking place in our state that they're responsible for, other than not being papered. Crime ain't gonna drop drastically by closing the borders.

Wrong. You might want to take a look at some statistics in that regard. One of the worst offenders ever in Texas was an illegal. Rafael Resendez-Ramirez.

Mexican and South American gangs have likely already hooked up with the IslamoNarcoNazis. The hispanic gangs will do anything for money. Anything. These groups already have people all over America. Gangs like the Mexican Mafia are very powerful and if they ever make deals with the moslems inside and outside our prisons we are going to have serious problems.

One major concern today is that the hispanic gangers would shoot MANPADS at commercial airliners. It's likely they have the devices in the US already. It's almost impossible to stop someone with one of thse devices.

After 9/11 we should have shut down our borders with our military. Not doing so was a huge mistake.

42 posted on 01/29/2005 4:12:52 PM PST by isthisnickcool (Denny Crane: "I look to two things: First to God and then to Fox News.")
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To: Churchjack
Actually, mine was post #8, and was a (wry, as usual in my case) comment on the LSM, specifically here on the headline writer's lack of either imagination or competence in the language. Said mssg had nothing whatever to do w/illegal aliens, either directly or inferentially, or w/Pasadena, or Texas.

FReegards (and, yes, GOOD shot, officer!)

43 posted on 01/29/2005 4:12:56 PM PST by SAJ
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
PASADENA (TEXAS) OFFICER SHOOTS, KILLS MAN (HISPANIC) WITH GUN

Well, what did you expect the officer to shoot him with?

A PEZ dispenser?

44 posted on 01/29/2005 4:14:41 PM PST by humblegunner (And who knows what else?)
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To: Churchjack; FITZ; MeneMeneTekelUpharsin; jocon307; NewRomeTacitus

There is some additional crime here in Nashville from the illegals who now outnumber blacks in metro Nashville...gangs and whatnot as well. I'm not sure I would call it a wave but it is problematic.


My issue and I will say it quite plainly:

I am a descendent of the Europeans who settled this nation and stole it or bought it from everyone else and I have no desire to nor feel any misguided and foolhardy alruistic impulse to relinquish that to Mexican campesinos or anyone else from anywhere else in the world....except the aforementioned Miss Universe contestants.

Nor am I aware of any other nation in the world where the predominate culture would wish to be diluted to a plurality at most as a noble gesture. This sort of thing usually results from being conquered and the males slaughtered and the women lamenting and all that.

Now that is my view. Folks can call me what they like. I live in the real world.....a little "huddled masses goes a long ways"....our founding fathers never had that fall on the sword demographically idea. That was been lifted from 19th century lore fostered by recent immigrants at that time who even then had more in common culturally with the host than the current crops.

Worse yet.....why in the Sam Hades are we letting all these Moon Rock Nazis in....they are not just more cultural friction....they are for the most part anathema to our freedom.

rant off

PS: NRT lives amongst the illegals here in Nashville...ask him.


45 posted on 01/29/2005 4:15:37 PM PST by wardaddy (I don't think Muslims are good for America....just a gut instinct thing.)
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To: wardaddy

"Redneck" is acceptable --- I see it all the time. You just need to get your dictionary of political correctness. Snowbird for yankees, redneck for southerners, hicks is okay because that means rural folks. I've used the insult racial slur words "gringo" and "anglo" but I didn't get banned for them. You can call French frogs and monkeys and that's okay.


46 posted on 01/29/2005 4:17:01 PM PST by FITZ
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Please! Please! Simply acknowledge that "Our Diversity Is Our Strength!" Given the news of increasing incidents involving Diverse Ones our strength is growing daily.


47 posted on 01/29/2005 4:19:51 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (Further, the statement assumed)
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To: Churchjack

Illegals from Mexico are not only the more innocent and harmless "wetbacks" looking for work --- there are many who are part of the narco-trafficking organized crime rings of Mexico and that kind is very dangerous and violent. There are many coming in who never did farm work in their whole life --- coming from the slums of Mexico City who never saw a bale of hay or would ever plan to help load them into a truck. In fact --- Mexico destroyed it's farms about 15 years ago --- you won't find that many Mexicans under 20 anymore who grew up on farms and will do that kind of work. Even the illegals who do farm work will tell you that --- their 15 year younger brothers and cousins want to come here --- but they don't want to do farm work.


48 posted on 01/29/2005 4:23:01 PM PST by FITZ
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To: bayourod
Houston doesn't have a serious crime problem because we have good law enforcement. A man was shooting off a gun in an apartment complex. The man was shot dead by the police.

That's law enforcement. The police didn't stop to complain about immigrants or blame President Bush. Houston police treated a crime as a crime, not an immigration situation.

If the man had killed a police officer and survived, we would have executed him.

If California and certain other cities would follow suite they wouldn't have as much a crime problem either.

Well stated.

49 posted on 01/29/2005 4:23:38 PM PST by judgeandjury
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To: FITZ

"There are many coming in who never did farm work in their whole life .--- coming from the slums of Mexico City who never saw a bale of hay...you won't find that many Mexicans under 20 anymore who grew up on farms and will do that kind of work. Even the illegals who do farm work will tell you that..."

That would explain the ridiculous numbers of Ecuadorians who visit my office building every day. There is some consulate office in it. Many of these people seem to have been airlifted directly from the rural areas of Ecuador, it is very hard to comprehend how they made it all the way from Ecuardor to Jersey City without ever once seeing an elevator or a revolving door. They are hillbillies pure and simple, and I can only guess that after their "paperwork" is "regularized" that they are shipped directly to some US farms, presumably to never have to wrestle with a "spinny door" again.

Oh well, back to the old tag line.


50 posted on 01/29/2005 4:34:40 PM PST by jocon307 (Immigration moratorium now!)
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