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Daily Telegraph (UK) Online ^ | 1/30/2005 | Philip Sherwell and Inigo Gilmore

Posted on 01/29/2005 6:10:22 PM PST by 1066AD

US Navy officer attacks 'travelling circus of aid workers' for impeding the tsunami relief effort in Indonesia By Philip Sherwell in Washington and Inigo Gilmore in Banda Aceh (Filed: 30/01/2005)

A US Navy officer serving on the Abraham Lincoln, the aircraft carrier at the heart of the Indonesia tsunami relief effort, has attacked United Nations officials, aid workers and the media for impeding flights to help the survivors.

Criticising their behaviour and demands, the officer declared: "My warship has been transformed into a floating hotel for a bunch of trifling do-gooders."

The relief effort has been a 'frustrating and needlessly dangerous exercise' due in part to a 'travelling circus'

The officer, writing on a website popular with American military personnel under the pen name Ed Stanton, also said that the carrier's combat-readiness and its pilots' safety had been jeopardised by Indonesian military restrictions as they tried to carry out relief operations.

Stanton wrote his column after three weeks off the Indonesian coast. "It has been a frustrating and needlessly dangerous exercise, made even more difficult by the Indonesian government and a travelling circus of so-called aid workers who have invaded our spaces," he said.

"Mixed in were a bunch of reporters, cameramen and Indonesian military officers looking like tourists on their way to Disneyland."

Stanton's attack was rejected by UN officials in Banda Aceh, who praised the American military. On the ground, however, some aid workers also complained about UN bureaucracy, while Acehnese told of inefficiencies in the aid operation.

Among Stanton's gripes was the complaint that the navy's Seahawk helicopters were required to spend much of their time ferrying relief workers around before bringing them back to their "guest bedrooms".

Aid teams, he said, "threw themselves at the mercy" of the US Navy because there were no five-star hotels but declined to pay for meals.

Stanton was similarly scathing of television crews. "We had to dedicate two helos [helicopters] and a C-2 cargo plane for Dan Rather and his entourage of door-holders and briefcase-carriers from CBS News," he claimed.

In their defence, journalists said that the helicopters were also carrying relief supplies.

The job of the Indonesian officers on board, he felt, "apparently is to encourage our leaving as soon as possible. They want our money and help but they don't want their population to see that the Americans are doing far more for them in two weeks than their own government has ever done for them".

He was also furious that the Indonesians refused to allow the Americans to use their airspace for routine training and flight operations "while we are saving the lives of their people, some of whom wear Bin Laden T-shirts as they grab at our food and water".

As a result, Stanton wrote, pilots were not meeting safety regulations because they could not train and practise enough. "The longer we stay here helping these people, the more dangerous it gets to operate," he said. "It is time to give this mission to somebody other than the US Navy."

Stanton's views were not welcomed by the military. Lt David Benham, a Pacific Fleet spokesman, said: "The comments do not reflect the position of the US government. We are working closely with the governments and organisations out there. They want us there and we want to be there."

The Lincoln is, however, understood to have moved farther offshore because of the sensitivities of the Indonesian authorities.

UN officials in Banda Aceh rejected Stanton's accusations. Jasper Lund, the co-ordinator, said: "We could not just get 10 helicopters in the air like that and the help of the Americans was crucial.

"I can understand if some commander gets worked up, because he sees their role as helping those starving on the ground with their helicopters, but it is a misunderstanding to think we were doing anything to prevent this."

He said that claims that UN officials refused to pay bills were hard to believe as they received meal allowances.

Heather Hill, the World Food Programme's spokesman in Banda Aceh, said it was true that UN officials had carried out "assessments" but she rejected suggestions that they hampered operations.

She said that it had taken time to get to positions "in country" but they had now reached remote places. "No one is living off caviar. Conditions are hard but people are motivated by the idea of being part of this historic mission."

A Spanish aid agency worker in Banda Aceh, however, said that some UN officials had appeared arrogant, and suggested that the UN was hindered by bureaucracy.

"It is a huge machine and it moves very slowly," he said. "It takes 50 pages of bureaucratic work just to move one nail. This can be a problem and that is why some Americans are probably upset. They like to just get on with it."


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KEYWORDS: disasterrelief; ngo; sumatraquake; tsunami; un; usn; ussabrahamlincoln
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This first appeared as email then on blog(s), now entering mainstream newspaper !

Diplomad blog has some pithy comments too.

1 posted on 01/29/2005 6:10:22 PM PST by 1066AD
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To: 1066AD

2 posted on 01/29/2005 6:12:37 PM PST by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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To: 1066AD

Ed Stanton is a courageous man, letting his career crash and burn like this. Bravo, Sir.


3 posted on 01/29/2005 6:13:12 PM PST by Old Sarge (In for a penny, in for a pound, saddlin' up and Baghdad-bound!)
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To: 1066AD

"[T]he officer declared: "My warship has been transformed into a floating hotel for a bunch of trifling do-gooders."

I find it hard to believe an American would have used the word "trifling" but maybe I'm wrong.


4 posted on 01/29/2005 6:13:52 PM PST by jocon307 (Immigration moratorium now!)
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To: Old Sarge

Brave guy, but heaven help him for speaking out about the worthless powdered princes of the U.N. Hope this doesn't cost him his career.


5 posted on 01/29/2005 6:20:06 PM PST by holyscroller (A wise man's heart directs him toward the right, but the foolish man's heart directs him to the left)
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To: jocon307
"Stanton was similarly scathing of television crews. "We had to dedicate two helos [helicopters] and a C-2 cargo plane for Dan Rather and his entourage of door-holders and briefcase-carriers from CBS News," he claimed."

Did someone get this over to Ratherbiased.com?

6 posted on 01/29/2005 6:23:10 PM PST by bubman
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To: jocon307

trifling has become a slang word in many urban areas for nonsense or ignorance. Ignorant is another commonly used word now.


7 posted on 01/29/2005 6:25:17 PM PST by combat_boots (Dug in and not budging an inch.)
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To: 1066AD
How dare he refer to these trifling do-gooders as "trifling do-gooders."
8 posted on 01/29/2005 6:25:23 PM PST by Malesherbes
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To: 1066AD

Woops, forgot link to Diplomad's blog:
http://diplomadic.blogspot.com/


9 posted on 01/29/2005 6:28:00 PM PST by 1066AD
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To: 1066AD
He said that claims that UN officials refused to pay bills were hard to believe as they received meal allowances.

How does the fact that they recieve meal allowances mean they actually pay their bills?

10 posted on 01/29/2005 6:28:35 PM PST by EricT. (Join the Soylent Green Party...We recycle dead environmentalists.)
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To: 1066AD

he's gotta point.

all of my life i've wondered why tv voyeurs focus on human disasters, like flies on do-do.

say a prayer for the voyeurs.


11 posted on 01/29/2005 6:29:16 PM PST by ken21 (baba boxer + ted kennedy = nuf 2 make u wanna puke)
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To: 1066AD

Th original Stanton post has been taken down, but there's a portion of it at http://countrystore.blogspot.com/2005_01_16_countrystore_archive.html#110639877778988792


12 posted on 01/29/2005 6:30:29 PM PST by RippleFire ("It was just a scratch")
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To: 1066AD

Do you have a link to the story? The link in the thread is not coming up with the story.


13 posted on 01/29/2005 6:36:24 PM PST by BJungNan (National sale tax - end all this insane tax records paperwork.)
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To: Old Sarge

It is refreshing to hear something other than diplomatic talk, although I am not happy to have to hear once again about the antics of the U.N.

The article said that Ed Stanton is a pen name, so maybe the office who wrote this won't get in trouble.


14 posted on 01/29/2005 6:36:32 PM PST by KittyKares
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To: 1066AD

I love reading the Diplomad :)


15 posted on 01/29/2005 6:37:59 PM PST by America's Resolve (awarforeurabia.blogspot.com - Watching the war for Europe)
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To: 1066AD

Good for him...


16 posted on 01/29/2005 6:38:26 PM PST by Flavius ("... we should reconnoitre assiduosly... " Vegetius)
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To: 1066AD

This letter has been debunked by a NON-anonymous sailor on that very ship.


17 posted on 01/29/2005 6:39:45 PM PST by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: Old Sarge

I hope he is about ready to retire and will run for public office. It sounds as though he is the type of courageous individual the US needs in these pathetically PC times.


18 posted on 01/29/2005 6:41:03 PM PST by kittymyrib
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To: jocon307
"[T]he officer declared: "My warship has been transformed into a floating hotel for a bunch of trifling do-gooders."

I find it hard to believe an American would have used the word "trifling" but maybe I'm wrong.

Same came to me. It's a UK type of word. But this man may have been all over and picked up a few British expressions.

19 posted on 01/29/2005 6:42:24 PM PST by dennisw (Pryce-Jones: Arab culture is steeped in conspiracy theories, half truths, and nursery rhyme politics)
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20 posted on 01/29/2005 6:45:05 PM PST by firewalk
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To: xm177e2

I think it was probably written by a Brit, since Americans do not normally use the word "trifling." But I think the contents were absolutely correct, because "aid organizations" all over the world are nothing but soft-leftist-forerunners.

They go away when the hard left arrives, but since everybody knows you can't make an omelet without breaking eggs, they don't go very far away. And they'll be back when the coast is clear.


21 posted on 01/29/2005 6:46:14 PM PST by livius
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To: Old Sarge
USS Abraham Lincoln
22 posted on 01/29/2005 6:48:52 PM PST by TexasCowboy (Ignorance is temporary and correctible; stupidity is voluntary and permanent)
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To: jocon307

"[T]he officer declared: "My warship has been transformed into a floating hotel for a bunch of trifling do-gooders."
I find it hard to believe an American would have used the word "trifling" but maybe I'm wrong.



Etymology: from Old French trufer, trufler to mock, trick

Sounds fishy! It maybe true, but I think a man at his level would use the proper channels to get this issue resolved. This was printed in Telegraph (UK). It wouldn’t surprise me if a European wrote this in order to shape U.S. opinion.

Holtz
JeffersonRepublic.com


23 posted on 01/29/2005 6:49:28 PM PST by JeffersonRepublic.com (The 51st state is right around the corner.)
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To: 1066AD
I do note that the officer writes under the pen name Ed Stanton. Well, not too hard for anyone motivated to find out who he is. Old hand here, former security manager, I became, first, almost distraught at human culpability. Then I found strength, in dealing with the HONEST people. Later in some crisis, I prefered to think about the REAL heroes. Yes, they are out there.

One can imagine some decent soul, American, or any other that pitches in and will do so to the point of exhaustion. The main thing, is that we might quietly recognise them by a quick nod when they return- if we know who they are.

Life is like that. For the good officer, a little quote "If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken, twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools." (Kipling).

I observe in Canada the little collection boxes everywhere in the coffee shops and stores- Tsaumi Relief. I see a big, fat twenty dollar bill in there. Hard to keep the faith in wondering if it finally is used rightly. A bit of a ramble here but..... Does it not seem that those who serve, are usually out of sight?. Cheers.

24 posted on 01/29/2005 6:51:46 PM PST by Peter Libra (Steady in the ranks)
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To: livius

I am no Brit and I use the word trifling quite often


25 posted on 01/29/2005 6:52:15 PM PST by sgtbono2002
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Main Entry: tri·fling Pronunciation: 'trI-fli[ng] Function: adjective : lacking in significance or solid worth: as a : FRIVOLOUS b : TRIVIAL c chiefly dialect : LAZY, SHIFTLESS

I use it every so often...nice word, and I'm as dangumit american as they come. :)

26 posted on 01/29/2005 6:52:15 PM PST by Bobber58 (whatever it takes, for as long as it takes)
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To: Old Sarge

According to the story, Ed Stanon is a pen name. Using his real name would be deal a lethal blow to his career. Of course, since its a pen name, no one can be sure who is really doing the writing.


27 posted on 01/29/2005 6:55:01 PM PST by rbg81
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To: jocon307

My grandmother used the word trifling all the time. Of course being from the deep south it sounded more like triflin'. It was used to denote displeasure with a situation or a person.


28 posted on 01/29/2005 6:56:29 PM PST by dljordan
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To: JeffersonRepublic.com

Forty years ago while beginning to date, I had a father tell me not to trifle with his daughter.


29 posted on 01/29/2005 6:59:12 PM PST by em2vn
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To: sgtbono2002

Well, I use that phrase too (I live in the South), but I would still suspect that this was an article posted by somebody with strong Brit connections. This does not make it untruthful or suspect in any way. It simply means that whoever he was, he couldn't have gotten it published in the mainstream press, either in the US or GB. A sad commentary.


30 posted on 01/29/2005 6:59:40 PM PST by livius
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"Stanton was similarly scathing of television crews. "We had to dedicate two helos [helicopters] and a C-2 cargo plane for Dan Rather and his entourage of door-holders and briefcase-carriers from CBS News," he claimed."

I can't believe Dan "The A$$#O!E" Rather is given this type of treatment after he tried to undermine a U.S. election with S#!T he typed up on his computer.


31 posted on 01/29/2005 7:00:34 PM PST by JeffersonRepublic.com (The 51st state is right around the corner.)
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To: holyscroller
Brave guy, but heaven help him for speaking out about the worthless powdered princes of the U.N.

I dunno, the guy with the most stars tends to hang tough with guys he thinks are righteous. He'll probably smooth things over and give a little direction.

Good posts by "Ed Stanton" though (Edwin Stanton was Lincoln's SecWar).

32 posted on 01/29/2005 7:03:49 PM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: dljordan
Our grandmothers must have grown up in the same neck of the Southern woods. She used the word trifling all the time; it had a negative connotation to it. Almost a synonym for "annoying."

She could also look down her nose and refer to someone's actions as "common" and that DEFINITELY had a negative sound to it. A woman who behaved commonly acted like a slut.

Now that's not to say she was a snob. She never understood why Yankees thought "trash" always lived in trailers. She thought the Kennedy's were the trashiest family in America.

33 posted on 01/29/2005 7:05:49 PM PST by TontoKowalski
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I am no Brit and I use the word trifling quite often

I agree. He probably settled on "trifling" after deleting something pithier and more descriptive.

34 posted on 01/29/2005 7:05:57 PM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: dljordan; dennisw; JeffersonRepublic.com; Bobber58; combat_boots

Re: trifling, I'm so sorry, I forgot, I have heard this word used by Southerners, and by extension African-Americans even up North.

Thanks for reminding me.


35 posted on 01/29/2005 7:07:43 PM PST by jocon307 (Immigration moratorium now!)
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To: TontoKowalski
She thought the Kennedy's were the trashiest family in America.

Trashy is as trashy does, eh? I always thought submerging pregnant girls in sinking cars was kinda trashy. And not calling the police for three hours even trashier.

But then, I wasn't raised right. I didn't go to Hahvuhd.

36 posted on 01/29/2005 7:08:24 PM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: 1066AD
Captain!

Grease the decks. Put all UN hands on deck. Weigh anchor and full steam ahead for the open seas. Take a hard turn to port and watch the scum slide off the deck and into the deep. Step on the fingers of any left hanging on. Then return to port and carry out your mission. That's an ORDER.

37 posted on 01/29/2005 7:12:18 PM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts (Some say what's good for others, the others make the goods; it's the meddlers against the peddlers)
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To: lentulusgracchus
More on Grandmother's views of the Trashy Kennedy Clan.

They got their money through bootlegging. They are always drunk and making asses of themselves. They failed to instill any values in their children, as the many rapes and drug uses and run-ins with the law attest. They are incapable of remaining loyal to their wives, friends, or promises. They are generally in the newspapers for all the wrong reasons (assassinations excepted).

38 posted on 01/29/2005 7:13:22 PM PST by TontoKowalski
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To: em2vn

Forty years ago while beginning to date, I had a father tell me not to trifle with his daughter.

Well.....

Did ya?

;'}


39 posted on 01/29/2005 7:21:39 PM PST by rockrr (Revote or Revolt! It's up to you Washington!)
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To: lentulusgracchus

"But then, I wasn't raised right. I didn't go to Hahvuhd."

I'm pretty sure that Ted Kennedy is the only U.S. Senator to have been kicked out of Hahvahd for cheating.


40 posted on 01/29/2005 7:26:05 PM PST by Chu Gary (USN Intel guy 1967 - 1970)
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To: 1066AD
"In their defence, journalists said that the helicopters were also carrying relief supplies."
 
This should not come as a surprise to anyone. I can just see 'ol Blather being his "self appointed important", annoying, elitist self over there, "gettin out the real story". Every time I hear or see his name now, the hair on the back of my neck bristles. Break a leg Dan, and I mean that quite literally.

41 posted on 01/29/2005 7:26:09 PM PST by Allosaurs_r_us (Idaho Carnivores for Conservatism)
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To: 1066AD
Let us understand, the UN churns money and resources for the benefit of the UN and its bureaucracy.

The United Nations provides jobs for people that have no management skills, logic, or intelligence.

42 posted on 01/29/2005 7:28:24 PM PST by agincourt1415 (Abolish the United Nations)
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To: 1066AD

I emailed this story to Diplomad -- he will enjoy it.


43 posted on 01/29/2005 7:54:49 PM PST by Elkiejg (A proud patriot of "stingy" America - God Bless our Troops)
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To: Old Sarge

Get ready! This officer is going to need help. The politicians and media will be like sharks in the water.


44 posted on 01/29/2005 8:46:11 PM PST by KenmcG414
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To: lentulusgracchus
Trashy is as trashy does, eh? I always thought submerging pregnant girls in sinking cars was kinda trashy. And not calling the police for three hours even trashier.

If I recall the story correctly, Ted Kennedy never called the police. They (the police) found the car the next morning. Kennedy had, by that time, swum over to the mainland, concocted a story with his "advisors," and returned as the police were pulling the car from the water and checking the license plate.

Anybody out there remember the details?

45 posted on 01/29/2005 8:52:50 PM PST by rmh47 (Go Kats! - Got Seven?)
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To: jocon307

"I find it hard to believe an American would have used the word "trifling" but maybe I'm wrong."

Well, I for one will not be trifled with.


46 posted on 01/29/2005 8:55:20 PM PST by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: Chu Gary
I'm pretty sure that Ted Kennedy is the only U.S. Senator to have been kicked out of Hahvahd for cheating.

But he got his ticket punched. His situation would be similar to the one in which another Harvard man, long ago, found himself when he was convicted on federal charges of some sort -- insurance or securities fraud, something like that. On the appointed day, he showed up to enter prison dressed in his natty best and wearing his Porcellian pig.

47 posted on 01/29/2005 8:57:47 PM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: JeffersonRepublic.com
I can't believe Dan "The A$$#O!E" Rather is given this type of treatment after he tried to undermine a U.S. election with S#!T he typed up on his computer.

I cant believe all these posts regarding the word trifling.

Seriously, didnt we learn anything from the U.S.S. Cole?

Why is an asset, such as a carrier being used as a hotel/helo tourist attraction for these sponges? Didnt they pack a tent in their 'supplies'?

Any Navy FReepers give me a lesson about ship security protocals for allowing foreign 'visitors' aboard our warships while parked in potentially hostile waters???

48 posted on 01/29/2005 9:30:27 PM PST by Gilbo_3 (Patience is a virtue, but it aint one of mine !!!)
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To: dennisw

Trifling is used by inner city blacks all the time. I use it a lot now myself.


49 posted on 01/29/2005 9:31:25 PM PST by packrat35 (reality is for people who can't face science fiction)
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To: Travis McGee

Ping to 48 please


50 posted on 01/29/2005 9:36:58 PM PST by Gilbo_3 (Patience is a virtue, but it aint one of mine !!!)
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