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Photo over Madrid Spain Last night
Yahoo News ^ | 1/30/05 | Me

Posted on 01/31/2005 6:08:14 PM PST by Rocketman

A shooting star streaks across the sky during a meteor shower. Residents of the area near Madrid airport reported seeing a ball of fire explode and disintregrate in skies over the Spanish capital overnight, security services said.(AFP/NASA.

Someone may want to link up to the Photo.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=1778&e=1&u=/050128/photos_od_afp/050128154706_51rancsg_photo0

The photo is clearly of a sword with a distinct hilt

Though the artcle makes no mention other than it is an "Offbeat Photo." -- something strange


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If memory serves flavious Josephus reported a sword that appeared in the skies over Jerusalem in the months leading up to its fall and destruction in 70 AD.

Josephus reported the visions and signs began sometime before the event.

1 posted on 01/31/2005 6:08:14 PM PST by Rocketman
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To: Rocketman

2 posted on 01/31/2005 6:10:03 PM PST by Pylon (R)
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To: Rocketman

Wow, that really lit up the sky. It does resemble a sword.


3 posted on 01/31/2005 6:10:18 PM PST by MontanaBeth (NEVER FORGET)
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To: Rocketman
Prophet I: And the bison shall be huge and black, and the eyes still of red, with the blood of living creatures! And the whore of Babylon, shall ride forth on a red-headed serpent, and throughout the land shall be a great rubbing of parts. He and wib... 

Prophet II: ...the demon shell carry a nine-bladed sword! Nine-bladed! Not two, or five, or seven, but nine, which he will wield on all wretched sinner-sinners, just like you sir, there! And the horns shall be on the head... 

Prophet III: ...through Hebediah, his servants. There shall in that time be rumours, of things going astray. Ehm...and there shall be a great confusion as to where things really are. And nobody will really know where lieth those little things wi...with a sort of rackey work base, that has an attachment. At this time, a friend shall lose his friend's hammer, and the young shall not know where lieth the things possessed by their fathers, that their fathers put there only just the night before, 'bout eight o'clock.

Excerpted from Monty Python's Life of Brian

4 posted on 01/31/2005 6:12:07 PM PST by peyton randolph (CAIR supports TROP terrorists)
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To: Pylon

Not only is it a sword & a hilt, there seems to be a seal or symbol at the cross. Awesome photo. Is there a patron saint of Madrid?

(if I were a tin-foiler, & I ain't, but if I were, I'd say SOMEONE was trying to send a message.)


5 posted on 01/31/2005 6:14:44 PM PST by madison10
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To: Rocketman

"At last we will reveal ourselves to the Jedi...At last we will have Revenge"--Darth Maul to Darth Sidious


6 posted on 01/31/2005 6:14:53 PM PST by Darth Dan
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To: Pylon

"in Hoc Signo Vinces". Seriously, in that picture, it does look like a cross or a sword.


7 posted on 01/31/2005 6:16:44 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: Rocketman

In this sign, you shall conquer.


8 posted on 01/31/2005 6:16:53 PM PST by Mr.Clark (From the darkness....I shall come)
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To: Darth Dan

DENNIS: Well I didn't vote for you!

KING ARTHUR: You don't vote for a king.

DENNIS: Well then how do you become king then?

KING ARTHUR: The Lady of the Lake, her arm clad in the purest shimmering samite, held aloft Excalibur from the bosom of the water signifying by Divine Providence that I, Arthur, was to carry Excalibur. That is why I am your king!

DENNIS: Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.

KING ARTHUR: Be quiet!

DENNIS: Well, but you can't expect to wield supreme executive power just 'cause some watery tart threw a sword at you!

KING ARTHUR: Shut up!

DENNIS: I mean, if I went round saying I was an emperor just because some moistened bint had lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away!

ARTHUR: Shut up, will you? Shut up!


9 posted on 01/31/2005 6:19:11 PM PST by stinkerpot65
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To: Mr.Clark
In this sign, you shall conquer.

It could be a bad omen for Spain who gave in to the Islamists after the train bombing. - tom


10 posted on 01/31/2005 6:20:22 PM PST by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse the Bushies with the dumb Republicans - Capt. Tom)
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To: Mr.Clark

Ah yes, any Sigma Chi's out there in Freeper land?


11 posted on 01/31/2005 6:23:53 PM PST by glocker23 (Live Free Or Die)
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To: Capt. Tom

It could be a bad omen for Spain who gave in to the Islamists after the train bombing. - tom

Thought that, but didn't want to say it. 'Fraid I'd be accused of being a Islamaphobe. There aren't too many countries brandishing swords these days. Mostly Islamists. I would HOPE it was the sword of Spain's Angel, but who knows...

12 posted on 01/31/2005 6:24:06 PM PST by madison10
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To: MontanaBeth; Rocketman; Pylon; Unam Sanctam; peyton randolph; madison10
This is only a sword if your eyelids work like a camera with its shutter open.

"A shooting star streaks across the sky during a meteor shower. Residents of the area near Madrid airport reported seeing a ball of fire explode and disintregrate in skies over the Spanish capital overnight, security services said.(AFP/NASA (news - web sites)/File) Fri Jan 28,10:47 AM ET "

13 posted on 01/31/2005 6:24:26 PM PST by BenLurkin (Big government is still a big problem.)
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To: madison10

Dunno about patron saints for Madrid, but the Patron Saint of Spain is Santiago, aka "Santiago Matamoros"--St James the Moor Slayer.


14 posted on 01/31/2005 6:26:50 PM PST by Betis70 (I'm only Left Wing when I play hockey)
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To: Thinkin' Gal

Ping (to #1)


15 posted on 01/31/2005 6:28:05 PM PST by steve86
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To: peyton randolph

16 posted on 01/31/2005 6:29:10 PM PST by rlmorel
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To: Pylon

Amazing photo.


17 posted on 01/31/2005 6:29:19 PM PST by Red Sea Swimmer (Tisha5765Bav)
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To: peyton randolph
STAN: I want to be a woman. From now on, I want you all to call me 'Loretta'.

18 posted on 01/31/2005 6:29:44 PM PST by Khurkris (That sound you hear coming from over the horizon...thats me laughing.)
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To: Capt. Tom
I think it indicates the fall of Spain to muslimism.

Daniel 7:7-8 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.

Think of the teeth as great iron swords

19 posted on 01/31/2005 6:29:46 PM PST by Rocketman
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To: peyton randolph

LAUNCELOT: We have the Holy Hand Grenade.
ARTHUR: Yes, of course! The Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch! 'Tis
one of the sacred relics Brother Maynard carries with him! Brother
Maynard! Bring up the Holy Hand Grenade!
[singing]
How does it, uh... how does it work?
LAUNCELOT: I know not, my liege.
ARTHUR: Consult the Book of Armaments!
MAYNARD: Armaments, Chapter Two, Verses Nine to Twenty-One.
BROTHER: "And Saint Attila raised the hand grenade up on high,
saying, 'Oh, Lord, bless this thy hand grenade that with it thou
mayest blow thy enemies to tiny bits, in thy mercy.' And the Lord
did grin, and people did feast upon the lambs, and sloths, and
carp, and anchovies, and orangutans, and breakfast cereals, and
fruit bats, and large --"
MAYNARD: Skip a bit, Brother.
BROTHER: "And the Lord spake, saying, 'First shalt thou take out
the Holy Pin. Then, shalt thou count to three, no more, no less.
Three shalt be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the
counting shalt be three. Four shalt thou not count, nor either
count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is
right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be
reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards
thou foe, who being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it.'"
MAYNARD: Amen.
ALL: Amen.
ARTHUR: Right! One... two... five!
LAUNCELOT: Three, sir!
ARTHUR: Three!
[boom]


20 posted on 01/31/2005 6:30:02 PM PST by KillTime (Western Civilization herself breathes a sigh of relief as President Bush wins 4 more years.)
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To: BenLurkin

Stop it. You are ruining all the fun.


21 posted on 01/31/2005 6:30:25 PM PST by Rokke
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To: madison10
(if I were a tin-foiler, & I ain't, but if I were, I'd say SOMEONE was trying to send a message.)

Pretty straightforward to me.

Spain, the only nation to withdraw their troops from Iraq, has a sword appear over its sky the night of the Iraqi election.

G-d is truly majestic.

22 posted on 01/31/2005 6:32:06 PM PST by Lazamataz (Proudly Posting Without Reading the Article Since 1999!)
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To: peyton randolph

He's not the messiah. He's just a naughty boy.


24 posted on 01/31/2005 6:32:54 PM PST by Red Sea Swimmer (Tisha5765Bav)
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To: Quix

Ping!


25 posted on 01/31/2005 6:33:10 PM PST by monkeywrench
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To: Khurkris

Can't remember. Was Stan a member of the Judean People's Front or the People's Front of Judea? I'm pretty sure that he wasn't a member of the Popular Front. ;-)


26 posted on 01/31/2005 6:34:22 PM PST by peyton randolph (CAIR supports TROP terrorists)
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To: Lazamataz
G-d is truly majestic.

Reading the skies for biblical portents? Hmmmm. As they say, there are alot of strange ducks in God's pond.

27 posted on 01/31/2005 6:37:22 PM PST by peyton randolph (CAIR supports TROP terrorists)
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To: Red Sea Swimmer
No one is to stone anyone until I blow this whistle!


28 posted on 01/31/2005 6:39:28 PM PST by peyton randolph (CAIR supports TROP terrorists)
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To: glocker23
I am not a Sigma Chi- But I know a Norman Sheild when I see one.
29 posted on 01/31/2005 6:40:09 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross (Just say no to the ACLU!)
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To: ZellsBells
Josephus retells how the "angel of the Deity" causes the ass on which Balaam rode to speak in a human voice, and then:

Oh, right! Next thing we'll have watery tarts tossing scimitars about and people wanting representative government!!

30 posted on 01/31/2005 6:48:08 PM PST by stboz
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To: peyton randolph
Reading the skies for biblical portents? Hmmmm. As they say, there are alot of strange ducks in God's pond.

You have your interpretation, I have mine.

The difference is, I won't call you strange for yours.

33 posted on 01/31/2005 6:51:55 PM PST by Lazamataz (Proudly Posting Without Reading the Article Since 1999!)
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To: Pylon

This is close to what I saw a few years ago above Calabasas, CA heading in the direction of Malibu or Santa Monica about 5AM in the morning at work while standing around with a morning ciggie.

Increadibly fast white flash and no sound. That thing must have travelled 30 miles at that altitude in 1/2 second before disintegrating. I've seen one once before and kept an open mind.

The sky was very dark and it illuminated the water vapor between me and it. So now I have my ciggie on the roof of the place and watch the sky before doing what I'm getting paid to do.

34 posted on 01/31/2005 6:53:01 PM PST by BobS
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To: ZellsBells

It is a pretty cool picture


35 posted on 01/31/2005 6:58:08 PM PST by stboz
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To: BearWash; Rocketman; Lijahsbubbe; Quix
Thanks for the ping. This was the photo that accompanied the article I posted on 1/28 [Fireball seen over Madrid]. I did not post the image, however, because it appeared to be a generic "file" photo. That's what I thought after a careful read of the caption:

A shooting star streaks across the sky during a meteor shower. Residents of the area near Madrid airport reported seeing a ball of fire explode and disintregrate in skies over the Spanish capital overnight, security services said.(AFP/NASA (news - web sites)/File)

LINK

Peculiar, that they would choose one that looks like a sword.

36 posted on 01/31/2005 6:59:49 PM PST by Thinkin' Gal
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To: peyton randolph
OK...you had to ask. Here's a link to the most thorough source of info on the film ever created. I hope you have some time on your hands...lol. Click on Lorettas pic, I think it goes to scene 7, for the dialogue. Enjoy.

http://www.mwscomp.com/movies/brian/b-pix.htm

37 posted on 01/31/2005 7:11:38 PM PST by Khurkris (That sound you hear coming from over the horizon...thats me laughing.)
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To: MontanaBeth

It resembles a crusader broad sword, if you want to get spooky about it. Now if the tip is pointed east southeast, I'm outa here.


38 posted on 01/31/2005 7:18:29 PM PST by katana
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To: katana
Now if the tip is pointed east southeast, I'm outa here.

LOL

39 posted on 01/31/2005 7:22:33 PM PST by MontanaBeth (NEVER FORGET)
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To: ZellsBells
No I wasn't really thinking of those passages It's actually in book 6 of the destruction of Israel

Now there was then a great number of false prophets suborned by the tyrants to impose on the people, who denounced this to them, that they should wait for deliverance from God; and this was in order to keep them from deserting, and that they might be buoyed up above fear and care by such hopes. (To me this is the false hope of Fundamentalist and Pentecostal and Charsimatic Churches of The Rapture -- the notion that we will fly away and not suffer.)

Now a man that is in adversity does easily comply with such promises; for when such a seducer makes him believe that he shall be delivered from those miseries which oppress him, then it is that the patient is full of hopes of such his deliverance.

3. Thus were the miserable people persuaded by these deceivers, and such as belied God himself; while they did not attend nor give credit to the signs that were so evident, and did so plainly foretell their future desolation, but, like men infatuated, without either eyes to see or minds to consider, did not regard the denunciations that God made to them. Thus there was a star (20) resembling a sword, which stood over the city, and a comet, that continued a whole year. Thus also before the Jews' rebellion, and before those commotions which preceded the war, when the people were come in great crowds to the feast of unleavened bread, on the eighth day of the month Xanthicus,

(21) [Nisan,] and at the ninth hour of the night, so great a light shone round the altar and the holy house, that it appeared to be bright day time; which lasted for half an hour. This light seemed to be a good sign to the unskillful, but was so interpreted by the sacred scribes, as to portend those events that followed immediately upon it. At the same festival also, a heifer, as she was led by the high priest to be sacrificed, brought forth a lamb in the midst of the temple. Moreover, the eastern gate of the inner (

22) [court of the] temple, which was of brass, and vastly heavy, and had been with difficulty shut by twenty men, and rested upon a basis armed with iron, and had bolts fastened very deep into the firm floor, which was there made of one entire stone, was seen to be opened of its own accord about the sixth hour of the night. Now those that kept watch in the temple came hereupon running to the captain of the temple, and told him of it; who then came up thither, and not without great difficulty was able to shut the gate again.

This also appeared to the vulgar to be a very happy prodigy, as if God did thereby open them the gate of happiness. But the men of learning understood it, that the security of their holy house was dissolved of its own accord, and that the gate was opened for the advantage of their enemies.

So these publicly declared that the signal foreshowed the desolation that was coming upon them. Besides these, a few days after that feast, on the one and twentieth day of the month Artemisius, [Jyar,] a certain prodigious and incredible phenomenon appeared: I suppose the account of it would seem to be a fable, were it not related by those that saw it, and were not the events that followed it of so considerable a nature as to deserve such signals;

for, before sun-setting, chariots and troops of soldiers in their armor were seen running about among the clouds, and surrounding of cities. Moreover, at that feast which we call Pentecost, as the priests were going by night into the inner [court of the temple,] as their custom was, to perform their sacred ministrations, they said that, in the first place, they felt a quaking, and heard a great noise, and after that they heard a sound as of a great multitude, saying, "Let us remove hence."

But, what is still more terrible, there was one Jesus, the son of Ananus, a plebeian and a husbandman, who, four years before the war began, and at a time when the city was in very great peace and prosperity, came to that feast whereon it is our custom for every one to make tabernacles to God in the temple, (23) began on a sudden to cry aloud, "A voice from the east, a voice from the west, a voice from the four winds, a voice against Jerusalem and the holy house, a voice against the bridegrooms and the brides, and a voice against this whole people!" This was his cry, as he went about by day and by night, in all the lanes of the city.

However, certain of the most eminent among the populace had great indignation at this dire cry of his, and took up the man, and gave him a great number of severe stripes; yet did not he either say any thing for himself, or any thing peculiar to those that chastised him, but still went on with the same words which he cried before. Hereupon our rulers, supposing, as the case proved to be, that this was a sort of divine fury in the man, brought him to the Roman procurator, where he was whipped till his bones were laid bare; yet he did not make any supplication for himself, nor shed any tears, but turning his voice to the most lamentable tone possible, at every stroke of the whip his answer was, "Woe, woe to Jerusalem!" And when Albinus (for he was then our procurator) asked him, Who he was? and whence he came? and why he uttered such words? he made no manner of reply to what he said, but still did not leave off his melancholy ditty, till Albinus took him to be a madman, and dismissed him. Now, during all the time that passed before the war began, this man did not go near any of the citizens, nor was seen by them while he said so; but he every day uttered these lamentable words, as if it were his premeditated vow, "Woe, woe to Jerusalem!" Nor did he give ill words to any of those that beat him every day, nor good words to those that gave him food; but this was his reply to all men, and indeed no other than a melancholy presage of what was to come.

This cry of his was the loudest at the festivals; and he continued this ditty for seven years and five months, without growing hoarse, or being tired therewith, until the very time that he saw his presage in earnest fulfilled in our siege, when it ceased; for as he was going round upon the wall, he cried out with his utmost force, "Woe, woe to the city again, and to the people, and to the holy house!" And just as he added at the last, "Woe, woe to myself also!" there came a stone out of one of the engines, and smote him, and killed him immediately; and as he was uttering the very same presages he gave up the ghost.

This is sobering. This is Judgement coming to the house of God. And

40 posted on 01/31/2005 7:25:31 PM PST by Rocketman
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To: ZellsBells
or worse--a known--and somewhat common-- optical illusion

I believe it is shooting star.

41 posted on 01/31/2005 7:27:19 PM PST by MontanaBeth (NEVER FORGET)
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To: Thinkin' Gal
(#40) Thus were the miserable people persuaded by these deceivers, and such as belied God himself; while they did not attend nor give credit to the signs that were so evident, and did so plainly foretell their future desolation, but, like men infatuated, without either eyes to see or minds to consider, did not regard the denunciations that God made to them. Thus there was a star (20) resembling a sword, which stood over the city, and a comet, that continued a whole year. Thus also before the Jews' rebellion, and before those commotions which preceded the war,

Interesting!

42 posted on 01/31/2005 8:57:30 PM PST by Lijahsbubbe
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To: Lijahsbubbe

Just noting that if you think of an Abrams tank and other armored vehicles, alot of the strange beast descriptions in Revelations and Daniel would fit that to a T.

I'm not into it, just thought it was interesting for those that are.


43 posted on 01/31/2005 9:04:18 PM PST by JustDoItAlways
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To: JustDoItAlways

I find this interesting due to the fact that I had a dream last spring about a sword over a city and I was unaware of the sword that Josephus wrote about.

I assumed it stood for judgement.


44 posted on 01/31/2005 9:23:21 PM PST by Lijahsbubbe
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To: Rocketman
#19:

I think it indicates the fall of Spain to muslimism.

Daniel 7:7-8 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.

Think of the teeth as great iron swords

#40:

This is sobering. This is Judgement coming to the house of God.

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Rev 17:12-13, 16
12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.
13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.
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16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.

45 posted on 02/01/2005 4:39:04 AM PST by the-ironically-named-proverbs2
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To: Pylon; bd476

Lookie at post 2


46 posted on 02/01/2005 4:44:00 AM PST by oceanperch (2005 is going to be an Awesome Year, which way that will go only God knows)
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To: BurbankKarl

Look at this one!


47 posted on 02/01/2005 4:46:19 AM PST by bd476 (God Bless those in harm's way and bring peace to those who have lost loved ones today.)
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To: oceanperch

Thank you! Amazing!


48 posted on 02/01/2005 4:46:45 AM PST by bd476 (God Bless those in harm's way and bring peace to those who have lost loved ones today.)
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To: madison10; Capt. Tom

The Word of God, sharper than any two edged sword.

The spirit of El Cid and Charlemagne shall rise in Madrid once more, the Spirit of Truth shall go forth and conquer.

See, I can prophecy too. It doesn't have to be doom and gloom.


49 posted on 02/01/2005 4:49:09 AM PST by ovrtaxt (Go Howard Go!)
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To: ovrtaxt

I thought of it more like the muzzles are coming back to Spain to claim what was once theirs. If Europe falls to the Sword of the Prophet, Spain will be the first domino.


50 posted on 02/01/2005 5:01:12 AM PST by ichabod1 (The Spirit of the Lord Hath Left This Place)
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