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Court: Taxpayers can ignore IRS summonses
WorldNet Daily ^ | 02-01-05

Posted on 02/01/2005 6:16:28 AM PST by TIElniff

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To: 1Old Pro

The IRS can ruin you until the courts step in. That's why we need the National Sales Tax.


21 posted on 02/01/2005 7:00:48 AM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: AppyPappy
That's why we need the National Sales Tax.

Well, my wife is already preparing for that by buying everything and anything so when we have a sales tax we won't need anything :)

22 posted on 02/01/2005 7:02:32 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: TIElniff; ancient_geezer

ping


23 posted on 02/01/2005 7:05:29 AM PST by Principled
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To: TIElniff

And the IRS will care? I think not. The IRS is the American equivalent of the KGD, NKVD, SAVAK and all the other secret police orgaizations in tryannical nations. The only way to bring them to heel is to shut it down, Like that will ever happen


24 posted on 02/01/2005 7:07:37 AM PST by StoneColdTaxHater
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To: TIElniff

And the IRS will care? I think not. The IRS is the American equivalent of the KGD, NKVD, SAVAK and all the other secret police orgaizations in tryannical nations. The only way to bring them to heel is to shut it down, Like that will ever happen


25 posted on 02/01/2005 7:08:09 AM PST by StoneColdTaxHater
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To: sinkspur

Big tax planning tip - don't annoy the IRS! No matter what the court case suggests, cooperation can get better results when facing an audit. You throw out all chance of negotiation or reduction of penalties by being obstructive.


26 posted on 02/01/2005 7:20:19 AM PST by RicocheT
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To: TIElniff

Believe me, it's a heck of a lot cheaper just to pay them than to pay an attorney!


27 posted on 02/01/2005 7:45:52 AM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: jsmith48
Does this ruling only apply to certain areas, like the homemade machinegun situation in the ninth circuit?

Right now, this ruling only applies to the 2nd Circuit. Other circuits may have differing views on this issue, or they may have never decided this issue. Until and unless SCOTUS grants cert. for this case, this decision is only binding in the 2nd Circuit.

28 posted on 02/01/2005 7:49:46 AM PST by Modernman (What is moral is what you feel good after. - Ernest Hemingway)
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To: TIElniff

'bout time!


29 posted on 02/01/2005 7:52:16 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: TIElniff

If you are at the stage where the IRS is trying to seize property you are in deep sh@t. Making it go through one more step is not going to be your salvation.


30 posted on 02/01/2005 7:55:48 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: StoneColdTaxHater

Nothing like wild hysterical miscatagorization to make your case. THAT will win you loads of adherents I'm sure.


31 posted on 02/01/2005 7:58:54 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: Revelation 911

That leg is about as strong as that of a jellyfish's tentacles.


32 posted on 02/01/2005 7:59:52 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: savedbygrace

Yup, I'm gonna take WND's tax advice. I'm gonna like living in a dumpster after I get out of "club fed."


33 posted on 02/01/2005 8:01:11 AM PST by MediaMole
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To: 1Old Pro
Well, my wife is already preparing for that by buying everything and anything so when we have a sales tax we won't need anything :)

LOL!!!! That laugh did me so much good! :o)

34 posted on 02/01/2005 8:05:48 AM PST by OHelix
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To: TIElniff

d@mn! Maybe this will be the first real step in dismantelling the IRS...


35 posted on 02/01/2005 8:07:48 AM PST by Maigrey ("... I will stand in front of the box to put my heart in it." - Mohammed from Iraq the Blog)
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To: sinkspur

It was a serious determination by the court, not nonsense. From what I understand, the ruling by its nature, nullifed the part of the tax code that says the IRS alone has the authority to demand a judge issue an attachment warrant for someone who fails to respond to the IRS' summons. So, instead of the IRS being able to demand you respond to a summons under IRS authority, without having to show reason, the IRS must now seek a federal court order to compel compliance with a summons, which presumably would mean the agency would have to show reason for the summons.

Interesting to say the least...and it really gets folks jacked up about tax reform!


36 posted on 02/01/2005 8:36:44 AM PST by Electrowoman
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To: MediaMole
Well, if the report is accurate, it might be good news for taxpayers who haven't done anything wrong, but get zinged by the IRS even so.

The threat of prison from an agency that has been provided with its own court system is frightening, to say the least.

37 posted on 02/01/2005 9:27:40 AM PST by savedbygrace ("No Monday morning quarterback has never led a team to victory" GW Bush)
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To: savedbygrace

That's what I'm thinking, too.


38 posted on 02/01/2005 10:06:38 AM PST by Electrowoman
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To: Electrowoman

You can bet, if this report is accurate, that the IRS will appeal all the way up the line. Power is more addictive than herion.


39 posted on 02/01/2005 10:24:14 AM PST by savedbygrace ("No Monday morning quarterback has never led a team to victory" GW Bush)
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To: Electrowoman; savedbygrace; All
HOT NEW DEVELOPMENT!

The IRS, which won that round against Schulz after all, is now asking the court to amend its ruling, for the very reason that the court's language empowered Schulz and WND to go boasting. The IRS quoted this WorldNetDaily article in their response. This proves that they think: "The fair and effective administration and enforcement of our tax laws may thereby be significantly impaired" (USA Attorney Cihlar in the motion).

Schulz replied by asking the court instead to amend even more strongly in favor of his own point: to declare IRC enforcement section 7604(b) null and void! Watch for WND to post additional articles on this (free self-coverage).

40 posted on 03/10/2005 1:23:52 PM PST by Messianic Jews Net
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