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BP (Border Patrol) agents shot at
Sierra Vista Herald, Sierra Vista Arizona ^ | 02/01/05 | Bill Hess

Posted on 02/01/2005 3:29:34 PM PST by SandRat

DOUGLAS - Individuals on the Mexican side of the border shot at a pair of U.S. Border Patrol agents on Friday and Monday, according to an agency's Tucson Sector spokeswoman.

The two incidents bring the number of shootings aimed at agents in Cochise County to three since last Wednesday and four since Oct. 1, Andrea Zortman said. All involved agents from the Douglas Station.

"They are definitely a lot more aggressive," Zortman said about assaults against agents.

In the most two recent shooting incidents in the county, a vehicle and material protecting cameras were hit, she said.

Around 6 p.m. Friday, an agent was patrolling near the Douglas International Airport when the agent "heard three distinct shots coming from Mexico," Zortman said.

The agent moved to a secure location as other agents responded to secure the scene, she said, adding, no suspects were encountered.

An examination of the agents' vehicle revealed it had been hit twice, one hitting the rear tire on the driver's side and the other went through the front bumper with the bullet lodging in the motor, Zortman said.

The Monday incident took place about 12:30 a.m. and involved an agent who was patrolling about two miles east of Douglas, near a remote video surveillance site's camera pole, she said.

"The agent heard four shots coming from Mexico," the spokeswoman said.

Again the agent headed for cover as additional agents responded, and again, no suspects were found, she added.

An inspection of the camera system was made and "revealed four bullet holes in the Plexiglas that protects the solar panels of the system," the spokeswoman said. The camera system was undamaged.

Last Wednesday's incident involved a shooting near the Douglas airport and was reported Saturday by the Sierra Vista Herald/Bisbee Daily Review. In that case an agent was fired on and said he heard bullets whiz by his head. The shots came from Mexico.

As agents were looking for the culprits, a vehicle crossed into the United States from Mexico, which apparently as a drug-load truck.

But once agents saw that action, they began a pursuit and the truck went back into Mexico.

Zortman said it is not unusual for drug smugglers to create some kind of diversion.

Since Oct. 1 through Monday, there have been 90 assault incidents against agents in the Tucson Sector, of which 27 have happened in Cochise County, Zortman said.

For all of the previous federal fiscal year there were a total of 118 assaults on agents.

Besides the shootings so far this year, assaults have included attempts to run down agents with vehicles and rocks thrown at agents.

Luckily, no agents have been injured, Zortman said.

But if the assaults continue there is a possibility that Border Patrol people may be injured or killed, she said.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: California; US: New Mexico; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: agents; aliens; assaults; banglist; border; borderpatrol; bp; cochise; douglas; drugs; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; leo; mexico; wodlist
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Arrrrrggg!!!!!
1 posted on 02/01/2005 3:29:34 PM PST by SandRat
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To: HiJinx; Spiff; idratherbepainting; JackelopeBreeder; AZHSer; Sabertooth; Marine Inspector; ...

If I say what I want to on this or the Admin Mod will get me.


2 posted on 02/01/2005 3:30:34 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: SandRat
Would a 155mm barrage in response be appropriate?? anyone ?
3 posted on 02/01/2005 3:31:04 PM PST by Centurion2000 (Nations do not survive by setting examples for others. Nations survive by making examples of others)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 4.1O dana super trac pak; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...

ping


4 posted on 02/01/2005 3:32:32 PM PST by gubamyster
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To: SandRat

Drug smugglers? Illegals? No difference.


5 posted on 02/01/2005 3:34:08 PM PST by Mulch
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To: SandRat

It sounds as dangerous as Iraqi checkpoints. Needless to say, Iraq is a war zone.


6 posted on 02/01/2005 3:34:08 PM PST by conshack
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To: SandRat

I say we shoot back with an A-10 tank killer.


7 posted on 02/01/2005 3:34:21 PM PST by agitator (...And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark)
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To: SandRat

When does the shooting back begin?


8 posted on 02/01/2005 3:35:36 PM PST by KiloLima (January 30, 2005: A date that will live in our hearts and minds . . .)
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To: agitator

In a perverted way, the more of this the better. I want to see the pressure build on Washington to fix our border and illegal problem and they need to feel all the heat possible.


9 posted on 02/01/2005 3:36:20 PM PST by EagleUSA
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To: SandRat
Zortman said it is not unusual for drug smugglers to create some kind of diversion.

"Diversion" my arse. How attempted murder.

10 posted on 02/01/2005 3:36:40 PM PST by skeeter (OBL "Americans" won't honor any law that interferes with their pocketbooks)
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To: skeeter

How ABOUT attempted murder...


11 posted on 02/01/2005 3:37:03 PM PST by skeeter (OBL "Americans" won't honor any law that interferes with their pocketbooks)
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To: SandRat

Shoot back with something bigger!

12 posted on 02/01/2005 3:38:45 PM PST by Wiggins
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To: SandRat

"If I say what I want to on this or the Admin Mod will get me."

Heard that, pardner.

Most frustrating of all is that if a BP agent did respond, they'd probably get investigated. If a regular citizen dared to defend themselves, I imagine it'd be worse than that. I am thankful that I am a tad further North, but it's bleeding all of us. Whenever I think about you folks down there right along the border and what you are being subjected to, it is all I can do to avoid erupting into a fit of rage.


14 posted on 02/01/2005 3:39:45 PM PST by AZ_Cowboy ("Be ever vigilant, for you know not when the master is coming")
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To: skeeter
But, they saw no one. It was just those evil assault rifles running amok, again. (/sarcasm)

Time for harsh sanctions against vicente fox and all the little foxes!

15 posted on 02/01/2005 3:40:39 PM PST by monkeywrench
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To: Centurion2000
Would a 155mm barrage in response be appropriate?? anyone ?

Claymores and Helo gunships would be more 'reasonable'.

Seriesly tho, Just a few well placed rifle shots should do the trick.

Does the .50 BMG have the range to reach Mexico city ???

16 posted on 02/01/2005 3:43:51 PM PST by Gilbo_3 (Patience is a virtue, but it aint one of mine !!!)
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To: SandRat
A war zone. .....and one where we're getting our asses kicked bigtime.

....although the fault certainly doesn't lie with our skilled and brave Border Patrolmen.

It lies with our politicians who deny that there's a war to begin with.

17 posted on 02/01/2005 3:45:07 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: SandRat

He gets me alot too. So I probably won't post what should be said either.


18 posted on 02/01/2005 3:45:47 PM PST by Stopislamnow (Islam is the 21st Century "Smallpox", and has the same cure. Eradication.)
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To: HiJinx

I want that winning raffle ticket. It looks like I'm gonna need it.


19 posted on 02/01/2005 3:48:11 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: monkeywrench
Time for harsh sanctions against vicente fox

"Harsh sanctions" defined as being left alone with these border patrolmen on a lonely stretch of desert road for about 15 minutes.

20 posted on 02/01/2005 3:51:23 PM PST by skeeter (OBL "Americans" won't honor any law that interferes with their pocketbooks)
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To: EagleUSA

"In a perverted way, the more of this the better. I want to see the pressure build on Washington to fix our border and illegal problem and they need to feel all the heat possible."

Agreed. It's going to take a high profile tragedy to get anything done.


21 posted on 02/01/2005 3:53:27 PM PST by Rebelbase (Who is General Chat?)
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To: Gilbo_3

Time for a little small caliber target practice?


22 posted on 02/01/2005 3:55:50 PM PST by Sterco
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To: SandRat; Mr. Mojo; 4.1O dana super trac pak; skeeter; JustAnotherSavage; Happy2BMe; ...

Look, another thread suspiciously absent of the OBL Cheerleaders.

Not only do they approve of illegal aliens, it now seems they approve of them shooting at the border patrol.


23 posted on 02/01/2005 3:56:20 PM PST by Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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To: Marine Inspector

Never a harsh word for vicente and friends. Just Americans.


24 posted on 02/01/2005 3:58:53 PM PST by monkeywrench
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To: SandRat

RETURN FIRE!!!


25 posted on 02/01/2005 3:59:18 PM PST by camas
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To: Marine Inspector

This is building to a head. Things cannot continue in this direction and everyone knows it.

Notice how many people have time to sit and post on this forum all day, hour by hour?

Some of them now admit they are not citizens.


26 posted on 02/01/2005 4:00:24 PM PST by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: SandRat
We need to get some Marine snipers down there. If we can get a mini-war going down there, perhaps they will close the border at last.
27 posted on 02/01/2005 4:04:18 PM PST by Max Combined
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To: Centurion2000
"Would a 155mm barrage in response be appropriate?? anyone ?"

That would work. However; a GE or Dillon Aero Minigun would be more precise and impressive.

/jasper

28 posted on 02/01/2005 4:05:13 PM PST by Jasper ("Power flows from the barrel of a 10mm.")
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To: DoughtyOne
Some of them now admit they are not citizens.

Yup, and they successfully hide behind their "I fully support President Bush" rhetoric. What moderator would give the boot to a bot?

29 posted on 02/01/2005 4:08:14 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: SandRat

Now, now, lets not jump to conclusions on this until we hear from the illegal alien amen corner...(sound of crickets)...


30 posted on 02/01/2005 4:09:45 PM PST by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: Centurion2000; Eaker; Squantos; SLB

>>Would a 155mm barrage in response be appropriate?? anyone ?

I'd settle for backup by a few military sniper teams, with weapons-free ROE on anyone firing across the border.

A few pings.


31 posted on 02/01/2005 4:10:04 PM PST by FreedomPoster
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To: Marine Inspector

I noticed that too! Could it be a result of folks ignoring them?


32 posted on 02/01/2005 4:10:08 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: FreedomPoster

Can I ask for an M113 Mounted 20MM Gatling? At least something with twin Ma-Duces.


33 posted on 02/01/2005 4:13:00 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Marine Inspector

The Israelis don't have to put up with this crap. Why should we?

34 posted on 02/01/2005 4:14:39 PM PST by Missouri
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To: SandRat

You might want to consider spelling out "Border Patrol" in your titles in the future. Not everybody regularly discusses this issue, and my first impression of the title was that some enviro-wackos had shot at some British Petroleum agents.


35 posted on 02/01/2005 4:17:14 PM PST by wimpycat (As God is my witness, I'll never be "outraged" again!)
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To: agitator
They beat us at the Alamo, we beat them at the battle of San Jacinto,and now it is two out of three time.

As long as the pandering politicians don't equip them with sniper rifles.

36 posted on 02/01/2005 4:20:18 PM PST by oldtimer
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To: oldtimer

I think a fair deal. No military weapons involved. Only the rifles held by US citizens. Legally of course. Assorted calibers, assorted ranges. Kind of a hodge-podge but I bet damned effective.


37 posted on 02/01/2005 4:23:51 PM PST by Sterco
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To: Wiggins
Hmmmmm
M198 good choice.
38 posted on 02/01/2005 4:33:00 PM PST by e5man_r_u? (A Man's mission: Build, Protect, Provide)
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To: Rebelbase
I think this is an indication that the border crossings are not as easy as they have been.

It may be the case that the BP is starting to have some success in at least slowing the flow of illegal crossings.
I may just be engaging in wishful thinking.
39 posted on 02/01/2005 4:35:41 PM PST by e5man_r_u? (A Man's mission: Build, Protect, Provide)
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To: Gilbo_3

This once again begs the question; Are landmines really as bad as they're made out out be?


40 posted on 02/01/2005 4:36:25 PM PST by yooling (Now, go away or I shall taunt you a second time!)
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To: e5man_r_u?

300 Weatherby Mag. not all that bad of a choice either. Never hear the bang.....


41 posted on 02/01/2005 4:36:43 PM PST by Sterco
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To: e5man_r_u?

Barrett makes some nice model that are designed for just this kind of action.


42 posted on 02/01/2005 4:39:40 PM PST by B4Ranch (Don't remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: B4Ranch; Sterco
Both fine choices in direct fire weapons.
The Barret of course has the advantage in raw umph.
43 posted on 02/01/2005 4:41:54 PM PST by e5man_r_u? (A Man's mission: Build, Protect, Provide)
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To: All

These are the kind of people W wants to live amoung us legally???


44 posted on 02/01/2005 4:46:01 PM PST by benice
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To: e5man_r_u?

Both weapons have the same distinction. Kill with one end, cripple with the other.


45 posted on 02/01/2005 4:48:08 PM PST by Sterco
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To: yooling

:)


46 posted on 02/01/2005 4:48:18 PM PST by benice
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To: benice
These are the kind of people W wants to live amoung us legally???

Yep, this is what W wants.

"They come here for a better life…they come for jobs." Today, in excess of 15 million illegal aliens now operate in the USA--not all of them come here to work. It’s not that we don’t have crime in America. Two million prisoners inhabit our prisons. However, according to the Center for Immigration Studies in Washington, DC, an astounding 30 percent of those [2 million] prisoners constitute illegal aliens at a cost of $1.6 billion annually. That adds up to 600,000 foreigners ripping off taxpayer dollars as prisoners sit in our cells during their incarceration period.

47 posted on 02/01/2005 4:58:48 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: e5man_r_u?

There's no reason to use .22's unless there is a need to be quiet. I love big umph guns! That's a fact.


48 posted on 02/01/2005 5:02:47 PM PST by B4Ranch (Don't remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: SandRat

That area just east of Douglas is flat evil. You can hear gunfire south of the border fence frequently. Considering Mexico's draconian gun control laws, that in itself is a strong indication that the Mexican government has zero control in this vicinity.


49 posted on 02/01/2005 5:03:12 PM PST by JackelopeBreeder (Proud to be a mean-spirited and divisive loco gringo armed terrorist vigilante cucaracha!)
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To: gubamyster; All


Four Blocks to Freedom

There is a 28 year old American named Yvette Martinez who has "disappeared" in Nuevo Loredo along with 27+ other US Citizens in the past few months. After a month of the Mexican law doing nothing and the US law saying "we can do nothing-Mexico runs their own country", her father started investigating by himself, along with some news people. She and her friend were traced to an intersection where they called a friend in the States. They could see the American Flag across the border. Four blocks away.

The Mexican mayor says, "It's safe here!" The police would not help. Finally Yvette's father found her car. It was in a storage lot used by the police. They refuse to talk. The US tells him, it's not their place to question Mexico. I don’t see any of the OBL shedding any tears for her heartbroken mother and father because they are “hispanic”. This is all about dirty money,from the corruption in Mexico, the drugs, the refusal to enforce existing law to the “willing worker program”.

God helps those who help themselves. Right now we aren't helping anyone except for a select few profiting with all this mess. It's not right and it's sure not American. I live in the mountains away from what many in the city are living through and not 15 miles from here are armed gangs of Illegal Latino’s growing weed in the National Forests. Same gangs as Nuevo Loredo. The sheriff can’t control it and the state or Federal government will not address it. They hold Mexican citizens hostage to work their fields. It’s been going on for YEARS. People are afraid. And yes, we get snippy when someone calls us racist or worse because our lives and communities have been changed for the worse and the powers that be, say -TOUGH! And we thought the enviro-whacko’s were bad! This isn’t what I promised my children.


50 posted on 02/01/2005 5:05:09 PM PST by AuntB (Every person who enters the U.S. illegally--from anywhere--increases the likelihood of another 9/11)
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