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How Crazy Are They? (CNN big says US troops targeted and killed 12 journalists in Iraq)
Power Line ^ | February 1, 2005 | John H. Hinderaker

Posted on 02/01/2005 9:51:37 PM PST by quidnunc

There has been a lot of buzz about absurd comments made by Eason Jordan, the number one guy at CNN, at the "World Economic Forum" in Davos, Switzerland. Here is how the forum's blog tells the story: During one of the discussions about the number of journalists killed in the Iraq War, Eason Jordan asserted that he knew of 12 journalists who had not only been killed by US troops in Iraq, but they had in fact been targeted. He repeated the assertion a few times, which seemed to win favor in parts of the audience (the anti-US crowd) and cause great strain on others.

Due to the nature of the forum, I was able to directly challenge Eason, asking if he had any objective and clear evidence to backup these claims, because if what he said was true, it would make Abu Ghraib look like a walk in the park. David Gergen was also clearly disturbed and shocked by the allegation that the U.S. would target journalists, foreign or U.S. He had always seen the U.S. military as the providers of safety and rescue for all reporters.

Eason seemed to backpedal quickly, but his initial statements were backed by other members of the audience (one in particular who represented a worldwide journalist group). The ensuing debate was (for lack of better words) a real "sh--storm". What intensified the problem was the fact that the session was a public forum being taped on camera, in front of an international crowd. The other looming shadow on what was going on was the presence of a U.S. Congressman and a U.S. Senator in the middle of some very serious accusations about the U.S. military.

I suppose a short refutation of Jordan's theory would be that if the U.S. military really set out to "target" journalists in Iraq, there wouldn't be anywhere near so many journalists swarming over that country. I don't have much to add to what has already been said by others about Jordan's wacko claim; Hugh Hewitt has a good roundup. Jordan is the same guy who admitted that CNN sucked up to Saddam Hussein and didn't report what they knew about his regime. So he's a really, really credible source.

Could someone please put CNN out of its misery?


TOPICS: Editorial; Extended News; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: cnn; easonjordan; iraq; only12; wecandobetter
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Do US Troops Target Journalists in Iraq?

Davos, Switzerland – This fiery topic became a real nightmare today for the Chief News Executive of CNN at what was an initially very mild discussion at the World Economic Forum titled "Will Democracy Survive the Media?".

At a discussion moderated by David R. Gergen, the Director for Public Leadership, John F. Kennedy School of Government, Harvard University, the concept of truth, fairness, and balance in the news was weighed against corporate profit interest, the need for ratings, and how the media can affect democracy. The panel included Richard Sambrook, the worldwide director of BBC radio, U.S. Congressman Barney Frank, Abdullah Abdullah, the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Afghanistan, and Eason Jordan, Chief News Executive of CNN. The audience was a mix of journalists, WEF attendees (many from Arab countries), and a US Senator from Connecticut, Chris Dodd.

During one of the discussions about the number of journalists killed in the Iraq War, Eason Jordan asserted that he knew of 12 journalists who had not only been killed by US troops in Iraq, but they had in fact been targeted. He repeated the assertion a few times, which seemed to win favor in parts of the audience (the anti-US crowd) and cause great strain on others.

Due to the nature of the forum, I was able to directly challenge Eason, asking if he had any objective and clear evidence to backup these claims, because if what he said was true, it would make Abu Ghraib look like a walk in the park. David Gergen was also clearly disturbed and shocked by the allegation that the U.S. would target journalists, foreign or U.S. He had always seen the U.S. military as the providers of safety and rescue for all reporters.

Eason seemed to backpedal quickly, but his initial statements were backed by other members of the audience (one in particular who represented a worldwide journalist group). The ensuing debate was (for lack of better words) a real "sh--storm". What intensified the problem was the fact that the session was a public forum being taped on camera, in front of an international crowd. The other looming shadow on what was going on was the presence of a U.S. Congressman and a U.S. Senator in the middle of some very serious accusations about the U.S. military.

To be fair (and balanced), Eason did backpedal and make a number of statements claiming that he really did not know if what he said was true, and that he did not himself believe it. But when pressed by others, he seemed to waver back and forth between what might have been his beliefs and the realization that he had created a kind of public mess. His statements, his reaction, and the reaction of all in attendance left me perplexed and confused. Many in the crowd, especially those from Arab nations, applauded what he said and called him a "very brave man" for speaking up against the U.S. in a public way amongst a crowd ready to hear anti-US sentiments. I am quite sure that somewhere in the Middle East, right now, his remarks are being printed up in Arab language newspapers as proof that the U.S. is an evil and corrupt nation. That is a real nightmare, because the Arab world is taking something said by a credible leader of the media (CNN!) as the gospel, or koranic truth. What is worse is that I am not really sure what Eason really meant to communicate to us, but I do know that he was quite passionate about it. Members of the audience took away what they wanted to hear, and now they will use it in every vile and twisted way imaginable.

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(Rony Abovitz in the World Economic Forum Weblog, January 28, 2005)
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1 posted on 02/01/2005 9:51:37 PM PST by quidnunc
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To: quidnunc

Eason Jordon needs an all-expenses paid trip to Gitmo, where he can be interrogated as to his former 'contacts' in the Baathist regime that he worked hand-in-glove with to maintain CNN's illustrious presence in order to maintain their bureau in Baghdad.


2 posted on 02/01/2005 9:55:52 PM PST by Mad Mammoth
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To: quidnunc

Send Jordan to Zarkavi....they can make great CNN news programs together.


3 posted on 02/01/2005 9:56:28 PM PST by indcons (The first rule of gun safety - Don't Piss Me Off!!)
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To: Mad Mammoth

Sorry, that post has a bit of redundancy in it. Hey, it's late, ok?


4 posted on 02/01/2005 9:56:45 PM PST by Mad Mammoth
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To: quidnunc
"How Crazy Are They?"

Are are we to respond to this?

5 posted on 02/01/2005 9:58:06 PM PST by Cornpone (Aging Warrior -- Aim High -- Who Dares Wins)
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To: quidnunc

I heard that Clinton stood by and said nothing as the US was accused of crimes, but I didn't know what they meant.


6 posted on 02/01/2005 9:59:59 PM PST by Eva
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To: quidnunc

To accuse the troops in an international forum is despicable..He could not back it up..one other international reporter chimed in to accuse..Jordan is beneath contempt..

Bye Bye credibility..Join the Rather, CBS hall of infamy, Eason...I will NEVER believe a CNN report on our military again.


7 posted on 02/01/2005 10:00:15 PM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: quidnunc

Unless these jackanape SOB's can produce forensic or photographic evidence, they can go pound sand. In fact, I hope they continue their sniveling and left-handed accusations. The public will really love those assertions from a clutch of Leftist bootlicks that served Saddam as well as they (CNN) did. If the "journalists" that were killed were anything like this specimen, then it was a good thing that the "journalists" were the bullet sponges instead of any US service personnel.


8 posted on 02/01/2005 10:00:40 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (Sneering in the face of, well, almost everyone, for a very long time.)
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To: quidnunc

There is a downside to this, isn't there?

But, seriously................is there?


9 posted on 02/01/2005 10:01:08 PM PST by Puckster
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To: Mad Mammoth

The left wing of the Democrat Party is truly the Baathist wing. These people have gone over the edge.


10 posted on 02/01/2005 10:01:45 PM PST by Eva
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To: quidnunc

I think that this should be seriously investigated. If the charges are unproven allegations, then I think that Jordan should be held accountable for them. A little time in stir will do wonders for so-called journalists with an agenda.


11 posted on 02/01/2005 10:02:02 PM PST by Frumious Bandersnatch
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To: quidnunc
What a load of

12 posted on 02/01/2005 10:03:17 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: quidnunc

And I thought Heraldo was making nice just because he
joined the FOXNews team.


13 posted on 02/01/2005 10:04:48 PM PST by Sivad (NorCal Red Turf)
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To: quidnunc

I wonder how many American Troops the Journalists have been responsible for killing because of irresponsible journalism?
A hell of a lot more than a dozen me bets!


14 posted on 02/01/2005 10:08:13 PM PST by o_zarkman44
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To: quidnunc

12? Well, that's a start, but not a very good one.


15 posted on 02/01/2005 10:08:47 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (I'd like to find your inner child and kick its little ass)
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To: quidnunc

Only twelve of those scum suckers....??????


16 posted on 02/01/2005 10:11:03 PM PST by Porterville (Never compromise what is right. Take your time to insult a liberal or have one unemployed.)
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To: Frumious Bandersnatch
I think that this should be seriously investigated.

If Jordan's charges are true, then it means that he (and CNN) have knowledge of criminal activity by the military and have covered it up. Consequently, Jordan should be fired.

But, if Jordan's charges are false, then he has made unsupported and irresponsible claims of the most inflammatory nature about our armed forces in a time of war. And he should be fired. Then, perhaps, prosecuted.

Which is it, CNN? Did the boss step in it with his left foot or his right? Or both? And what are you going to do about it? Because, irrespective of the validity of Jordan's charges, he should be dismissed forthwith. The only question is whether you want to follow him into the abyss...

17 posted on 02/01/2005 10:15:15 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: quidnunc

Didn't Clinton bomb the TV station in Kosovo?


18 posted on 02/01/2005 10:17:00 PM PST by opinionator
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To: quidnunc
Eason Jordan asserted that he knew of 12 journalists who had not only been killed by US troops in Iraq, but they had in fact been targeted.

And now back to argument #876 about how you can be against the war and the United States military, but still support our troops.

(steely)

19 posted on 02/01/2005 10:17:15 PM PST by Steely Tom (Fortunately, fhe Bill of Rights doesn't include the word 'is'.)
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To: quidnunc

20 posted on 02/01/2005 10:17:38 PM PST by John Lenin
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To: Chad Fairbanks

I'm sorry, but this is total crap. I mean, Fisk is still alive, fer Chrissakes.


21 posted on 02/01/2005 10:18:22 PM PST by stands2reason
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To: opinionator

I was watching the movie 'Control Room' and they claimed that we killed 3 reporters in 3 separate incidents on the same day.


22 posted on 02/01/2005 10:19:21 PM PST by opinionator
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To: okie01

yeah, good point. If there is anything to this then where the hell has CNN been on this story?! Were they just saving their "exclusive" for Davos?


23 posted on 02/01/2005 10:19:30 PM PST by byset
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To: quidnunc

First CBS, then CNN. I think it's in their water supply. Probably a conspiracy or something like that.


24 posted on 02/01/2005 10:20:35 PM PST by Oreo Kookey (How, indeed, do we click our tongues at beheadings and look the other way from abortion? I weep.)
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To: quidnunc

WTF?!? I'd say the guy has lost it ..... if he ever had it to lose.


25 posted on 02/01/2005 10:21:24 PM PST by KoRn
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To: stands2reason

Yeah, no kidding ;0)


26 posted on 02/01/2005 10:22:49 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (I'd like to find your inner child and kick its little ass)
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To: MEG33



I'd like to call for an investigation!


And if CNN is wrong, they should be sued for slander.


27 posted on 02/01/2005 10:23:37 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell (GOD BLESS THE IRAQI PEOPLE! They have choosen Freedom!)
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To: quidnunc
Franklin Delano Roosevelt's 1945 State of the Union Address

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"And I would express another most serious warning against the poisonous effects of enemy propaganda.

The wedge that the Germans attempted to drive in western Europe was less dangerous in actual terms of winning the war than the wedges which they are continually attempting to drive between ourselves and our allies.

Every little rumor which is intended to weaken our faith in our allies is like an actual enemy agent in our midst--seeking to sabotage our war effort. There are, here and there, evil and baseless rumors against the Russians--rumors against the British--rumors against our own American commanders in the field.

When you examine these rumors closely, you will observe that every one of them bears the same trade-mark--"Made in Germany.

We must resist this divisive propaganda--we must destroy it -with the same strength and the same determination that our fighting men are displaying as they resist and destroy the panzer divisions."

************************

28 posted on 02/01/2005 10:24:50 PM PST by Polybius
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To: quidnunc
Based on the comments from this KNOWN Saddam regime protector -- there is at least one more "journalist" that "earned killin"....

CNN LIES

Semper Fi

29 posted on 02/01/2005 10:25:11 PM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: quidnunc

bump


30 posted on 02/01/2005 10:26:16 PM PST by kimosabe31
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To: quidnunc
I wasn't aware that there WERE 12 journalists in Iraq. There's one Hell of a lot of propagandists, but not many journalists.
31 posted on 02/01/2005 10:27:10 PM PST by CrazyIvan (What's the difference between Joseph Goebbels and Michael Moore? About 150 pounds.)
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To: Cornpone

There's a very fine line between crazy and stupid that some say doesn't even exist.I'm not surprised to hear a CNN journalist accusing US soldiers of murdering a dozen journalist in Iraq.I'm convinced that most liberals are so afraid of the Islamic terrorist that they never direct any ill words toward them.It's so bad over there that the news organizations are allowing the terrorist to film themselves committing terrorist acts and then turn it in to a CNN who broadcasts it like it came from one of their cameras.I wonder if they are being payed for their service of spreading the terrorist propaganda to the world.


32 posted on 02/01/2005 10:32:30 PM PST by rdcorso (Where Is This Allah The Merciful?All I've Seen Is Allah The Terrorist Scumbag)
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To: quidnunc

I am sure CNN would have all the documents from 1970 to prove this.


33 posted on 02/01/2005 10:42:03 PM PST by GeronL (I am NOT the real bin Laden)
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To: byset
yeah, good point. If there is anything to this then where the hell has CNN been on this story?! Were they just saving their "exclusive" for Davos?

I just sent the story in, on their "Breaking News Tip" link.

I pointedly noted that there was a videotape...

34 posted on 02/01/2005 10:42:03 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: quidnunc
Only 12?
35 posted on 02/01/2005 10:44:14 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Andrew Heyward's got to go!)
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To: opinionator

Clinton said that journalists were legitimate targets, so if you work for PBS and NPR, you should be scared.


36 posted on 02/01/2005 10:45:20 PM PST by GeronL (I am NOT the real bin Laden)
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To: okie01

lol


37 posted on 02/01/2005 10:45:43 PM PST by GeronL (I am NOT the real bin Laden)
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To: river rat
Chief News Executive Eason Jordan's admission that CNN withheld information
about torture in the Iraqi regime to protect innocent people opens heated
journalism ethics debate.
Cable News Network chief news executive Eason Jordan's recent admission that he
withheld information about how Iraqi officials intimidated and tortured Iraqis who had
helped CNN over the past decade has opened up a heated debate about journalism
ethics.
Jordan wrote about the situation in an op-ed. In the article, Jordan said that he traveled
to the Iraqi capital 13 times to talk government officials into keeping the CNN bureau
there open and to arrange interviews with Iraqi leaders.
CNN withheld information about torture in Iraq regime
"Each time I visited, I became more distressed by what I saw and heard — awful things
that could not be reported because doing so would have jeopardized the lives of Iraqis,
particularly those on our Baghdad staff," he wrote.
In one example, CNN's Iraqi cameraman was abducted, beaten and subjected to
electroshock torture in the basement of a secret police headquarters because he refused
answer what Jordan called "ludicrous" questions. The CNN executive said that if his
network reported on the cameraman's torture, Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein's henchmen
would have killed the man and may have gone after his family and co-workers.
Jordan also wrote that Saddam's oldest son, Uday Hussein, told him in 1995 that he
intended to assassinate King Hussein of Jordan and two brothers-in-law who had
defected to Jordan. The CNN chief told the king, who dismissed the threat, but the two
brothers-in-law returned to Iraq and were later assassinated.

38 posted on 02/01/2005 10:45:59 PM PST by John Lenin
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To: quidnunc

Apparently, we killed the wrong ones.


39 posted on 02/01/2005 10:46:23 PM PST by A Balrog of Morgoth (With fire, sword, and stinging whip I drive the Rats in terror before me.)
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To: Frumious Bandersnatch
I too, think that these charges should be investigated and let the truth decide how events play out.

Having said that, I think I know how events will play out. Another Lame Stream Media lie. And like Rathergate, this lie needs to be outed.
40 posted on 02/01/2005 10:48:13 PM PST by Ticonderoga34
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To: GeronL

Not yet their still typing them up.


41 posted on 02/01/2005 11:01:58 PM PST by bikerman
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To: Steely Tom
Eason Jordan asserted that he knew of 12 journalists who had not only been killed by US troops in Iraq, but they had in fact been targeted.


Jordan also knew before hand, that Saddam Hussein's two son-in-laws would be killed, when lured back to Iraq from the country of Jordan. And he did NOTHING to warn them so he could continue to do his "false" CNN reporting from Iraq!!!
42 posted on 02/01/2005 11:07:07 PM PST by danamco
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To: quidnunc

The left proves again how much it has in common with terrorsits.


43 posted on 02/01/2005 11:13:16 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: Mrs Zip

ping


44 posted on 02/01/2005 11:25:31 PM PST by zip (Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough became truth to 48% of Americans)
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To: quidnunc

Can I post my blog stuff under "News & Activism" as well? Or am I too little.


45 posted on 02/01/2005 11:31:59 PM PST by Critical Bill
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To: quidnunc

I guess the definition of journalist needs to be addressed here.


46 posted on 02/01/2005 11:35:57 PM PST by Peace will be here soon
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To: quidnunc

Hah! They were probably terrorist embeds.


47 posted on 02/01/2005 11:56:20 PM PST by Rightwing Conspiratr1 (Lock-n-load!)
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To: quidnunc

They only targeted 12? I hope they've been commended for their restraint.


48 posted on 02/02/2005 12:42:51 AM PST by Bonaparte (Of course, it must look like an accident...)
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To: quidnunc

If I had a gun and were in Iraq, and saw an Al Jazeera journalist alone in a back alley... well... never mind.


49 posted on 02/02/2005 12:44:02 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: Puckster
There is a downside to this, isn't there? But, seriously................is there?

I'm thinking "how the hell do you kill the enemy if you don't target them?"

50 posted on 02/02/2005 1:14:13 AM PST by papertyger (If you're gonna be dumb, you gotta be tough.)
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