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Gun nuts' have no real excuse(gun grabbing weenie barf alert 4 bags minimum)
dailycampus.com ^ | 2 1 05 | Robert Schiering

Posted on 02/02/2005 10:45:23 AM PST by freepatriot32

At first glance, the term "gun nut" would appear to be nothing more than an ad hominem against the more enthusiastic weapon owners of this country. However, as one reads the literature espoused by gun nut organizations, the reasoning behind this term becomes startlingly clear. Gun nuts are called as such because they are incontrovertibly insane.

The gun lobby has adopted the same attitude toward politics as Rush Limbaugh: "Don't confuse me with facts, I've got my mind made up!" Gun nuts are so obsessed with opposing gun control laws that no amount of factual evidence against their position will sway them. Some call this "sticking to your guns." I call it "deliberate stupidity."

The National Rifle Association (NRA) claims that a society that owns guns is a safe society. Throughout the pages of gun magazines are various ads which depict Joe Average wielding a hand cannon, defending his helpless family from a masked intruder who has invaded his home in the dead of night. Ignore for a minute that the probability of encountering a burglar dumb enough to enter your house while you are there is incredibly slim and look at the FBI's study on gun violence. In 1993, of 39,595 firearm-related deaths, only 251 were determined to be justifiable homicide. That is less than 1 percent of all firearm deaths for that year. Furthermore, studies in 1994 found that you are much more likely to be murdered by someone you know, not some masked boogey-man with an eye for your wife's jewelry. Suicides, homicides and accidental deaths far outnumber instances where someone has successfully used a firearm to defend themselves or their loved ones. Either these findings have not reached the NRA, or they are deliberately turning a blind eye to them.

Unrestricted ownership of weapons essentially follows the tenets of the classical theory of criminology. This theory is hardly modern, developing in the late 1700s through the works of Cesare Beccaria and Jeremy Bentham. The core ideas of classical theory are: the decision to commit crime is a rational cost-benefit evaluation and that crime can be prevented through administering certain, severe punishment. Gun nuts believe that if every citizen owned a weapon, potential criminals would be too afraid to commit crimes.

The right wing, not just the gun nuts, has become so enthralled by classical theory that they have completely ignored the mountains of evidence that contradict it. While America fairs better than its developed counterparts around the world in most areas of crime, it tops them all in the category of murder. While you stand a better chance of being robbed in Sydney, Australia than in Los Angeles you are 20 times as likely to be killed in L.A. A rational mugger would prefer to give up and flee should his activity lead to conflict (as murder comes with a much higher cost than mere robbery, while the benefit is relatively minute), but statistics point out that in the U.S., victims that put up a fight are typically killed. This is not rational behavior and all the guns in America haven't changed it.

When the chips are down in the debate on crime, a gun nut will always fall back on the Constitution. Gun nuts love to quote the Second Amendment, or at least they love to quote the second half. In its entirety, the Second Amendment reads, "A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." This does not, in any way, clarify the issue of personal gun ownership. It is vague, leaving one to wonder whether or not gun ownership rights should be extended to the individual without mandatory enrollment in a "well organized militia." Historically, the Supreme Court has ruled that states have the right to enact gun control laws, as was determined by United States v. Cruikshank in 1876. The NRA has conveniently ignored the first half of the Second Amendment, typically printing only the second half. Former Chief Justice Warren Burger denounced the NRA's editing of the Second Amendment as a "fraud."

Owning an arsenal is not a "way of life," it is a mental disorder. It is an unjustifiable paranoia that leads to thousands of unjustified deaths every year. Let's put this in perspective. Annually, about 17,000 people die of illicit drug use (illegal), 0 people die of marijuana use (also illegal), 20,000 people die of sexual behaviors (not illegal, but frowned upon), while some 29,000 die in a firearm related incident, 1 percent of which result in a "bad guy" eating a lead sandwich.

I'm not suggesting that people stop owning weapons or that the NRA disband and start crusading for rights that don't kill anyone, like smoking pot for example. What I want is an end to the lies that the gun nuts want so badly to believe in. I want them to face the fact that they are much more likely to kill their wife and children than defend them. I want them to realize that the only crime wave in this country is in homicide, a crime inextricably linked with firearms. Perhaps when gun nuts stop living in Charlton Heston's movies they will pursue a safer, more reasonable route to gun ownership and use.


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when I first started reading this article i was going to use this space to correct all of the FACTS he got wrong but there are about 6 per paragraph and I don't have that kind of time. Maybe some freepers can do a line by line correction and if any freepers give money to the univeristy of connecticut you should probably stop now if this is an example of the typeof "education " they give the students

I will saythis though the 39 000 murders hes talking about in 1993 how many of those do you think were armed and able to defend themselves at the time of thier deaths? probably a dozen maybe the vaste supermajority were unarmed because of the draconian unconstitional gun control laws in almost every city in 1993

1 posted on 02/02/2005 10:45:23 AM PST by freepatriot32
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To: Joe Brower; Travis McGee

ping


2 posted on 02/02/2005 10:46:12 AM PST by freepatriot32 (Jacques Chirac and Kofi Annan, a pantomime horse in which both men are playing the rear end. M.Steyn)
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To: freepatriot32

The author would probably confront someone breaking into his domicile with a hand full of tofu.


3 posted on 02/02/2005 10:47:28 AM PST by pikachu (BE alert -- we need more lerts!)
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To: freepatriot32

4 posted on 02/02/2005 10:49:08 AM PST by speed_addiction (Ninja's last words, "Hey guys. Watch me just flip out on that big dude over there!")
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To: freepatriot32

"mountains of evidence"

This is what passes for facts in the liberal mind.


5 posted on 02/02/2005 10:50:08 AM PST by Spok
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To: freepatriot32
When this idiot first referred to people that own weapons legally as gun nuts, he/she/it lost the debate and any credibility in the piece. This gun nut responsibly kept this person's right to freedom of speech free by service in the military.
6 posted on 02/02/2005 10:51:17 AM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: freepatriot32

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."

-- C.S. Lewis


7 posted on 02/02/2005 10:51:19 AM PST by odoso (Millions for charity, but not one penny for tribute!)
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To: pikachu

yeah probably btw i love your tagline i cant stop laughing :-)


8 posted on 02/02/2005 10:51:20 AM PST by freepatriot32 (Jacques Chirac and Kofi Annan, a pantomime horse in which both men are playing the rear end. M.Steyn)
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Ignore for a minute that the probability of encountering a burglar dumb enough to enter your house while you are there is incredibly slim...

Guy came into our house at 6 in the evening one night, my roommate knifed the bastard.

9 posted on 02/02/2005 10:51:33 AM PST by Zeroisanumber
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Run a correlation of gun ownership and high crime zones and the author of this piece would be throughly debunked. There are places in America where every 2nd or third household has at least 1 firearm and the crime rate is virtually nil. That's not to say gun ownership isn't also very high in LA, even though higher legal boundaries exist to it there than elsewhere, but the correlation between crime hot spots and gun registrations is statistical fantasy.
10 posted on 02/02/2005 10:51:51 AM PST by .cnI redruM (The Khmer Rouge never captured anybody's doll. - Jonah Goldberg)
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You have a point in that almost every sentence is a lie or half truth. Using stats from 93 and 94 is no mistake either. It's deliberate agitprop and should be ignored, but the author should be remembered.
11 posted on 02/02/2005 10:52:31 AM PST by Durus
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Gun nuts believe that if every citizen owned a weapon, potential criminals would be too afraid to commit crimes.

Works just fine in Switzerland where every man 18 and older is REQUIRED to have a gun and know how to use it.

12 posted on 02/02/2005 10:53:12 AM PST by Tamar1973 (“Someone who doesn't know the difference between good & evil is worth nothing.”)
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If this was written by a woman you'd have a chance at turning her around by taking her to the range. But since it was written by a girly-man, it's a lost cause.


13 posted on 02/02/2005 10:53:13 AM PST by stevio (Let Freedom Ring!)
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To: freepatriot32
"In 1993, of 39,595 firearm-related deaths, only 251 were determined to be justifiable homicide"

No mention that most of the rest were caused by criminals which used guns during the commission of a crime.
14 posted on 02/02/2005 10:53:28 AM PST by RetroWarrior ("We count it death to falter, not to die")
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To: freepatriot32
"Don't confuse me with facts, I've got my mind made up!" Gun nuts are so obsessed with opposing gun control laws that no amount of factual evidence against their position will sway them.

Very interesting statement coming from their camp.
I had a friend once who believed along the same lines as the writer of this "article". I finally told her to place a sign in her front yard clearly stating that there were no firearms on the premises - never were and never will be.

She declined the offer. I wonder why?

Regards,
GE
15 posted on 02/02/2005 10:53:34 AM PST by GrandEagle
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To: freepatriot32

More of the same regurgitated, disproven lies....


16 posted on 02/02/2005 10:54:25 AM PST by need_a_screen_name
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To: freepatriot32

I think I'll buy a new pistol this weekend. :o)


17 posted on 02/02/2005 10:56:57 AM PST by BigCinBigD
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To: freepatriot32
A rational mugger would prefer to give up and flee should his activity lead to conflict

Yeah, and most muggers are rationale. Tell it to that young woman in NYC that got shot the other day.

18 posted on 02/02/2005 10:56:59 AM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: freepatriot32
I'm not suggesting that people stop owning weapons or that the NRA disband and start crusading for rights that don't kill anyone, like smoking pot for example.

I can tell that this guy has smoked a lot of pot.

19 posted on 02/02/2005 10:58:04 AM PST by spodefly (Yo, homey ... Is that my briefcase?)
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To: stevio
If this was written by a woman you'd have a chance at turning her around by taking her to the range. But since it was written by a girly-man, it's a lost cause.

even if I were to try to take him to a gun range I would be in fear for my life because this college educated yokel probably wouldnt have the foggiest idea of wich end of the gun to point at the target and since hes a liberal the bullet would pass through his skull with no resistance and come out and hit me. I was going to send him email after email dispoving his fantasy but suprise suprise there is no email for this guy on the website probably becasue he knew people were going to call him on his propaganda

20 posted on 02/02/2005 10:59:22 AM PST by freepatriot32 (Jacques Chirac and Kofi Annan, a pantomime horse in which both men are playing the rear end. M.Steyn)
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