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The Knights and the lesbians: Exhibit A in same-sex uproar
Globe and Mail ^ | February 2, 2005 | Michael Valpy

Posted on 02/02/2005 12:17:07 PM PST by NYer

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To: rightwingcrazy

Yes you're right. And I would care for a lesbian couple's children with no problem. But I would not hide my beliefs from the kids, so I doubt they would find ME acceptable. I'm not saying I would set out to insult the children's legal guardians, but when I care for children, I see it as my responsibility to teach them about right and wrong. I also read books and provide other Christian based material for them. I suppose it would be easier to avoid if they were the only children I cared for (still it would come up), but I certainly wouldn't sacrifice the proper training of other children for the sake of the immoral "moms." They wouldn't want me as a babysitter, but I wouldn't mind doing it.


41 posted on 02/02/2005 1:06:21 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real politcal victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: NYer
From barbara findlay's website:

Most recently, I have been honoured by being granted an Award of Merit by the new Sexual Diversity Studies Department at the University of Toronto, in recognition of my advocacy on behalf of queer communities in Canada.

Surprise, surprise ...

42 posted on 02/02/2005 1:06:52 PM PST by catpuppy
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To: dmz

As hard as it might be for your to get your mind around this, I'm not white.

This is about the freedom of people to associate with anyone they choose, I don't want to tell anyone else who they can and cannot assoicate with, and I would appreciate the same from them.


43 posted on 02/02/2005 1:07:40 PM PST by Truthsearcher
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To: Loyalist

Oh, and I thought I didn't capitalize my name most of the time because I was lazy. Instead I'm making a statement. Cool!
sundero


44 posted on 02/02/2005 1:07:46 PM PST by brytlea
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To: rightwingcrazy

Likewise I certainly wouldn't want them to babysit my child.


45 posted on 02/02/2005 1:10:22 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real politcal victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: sgtbono2002

exactly, the article said it was a hall behind a church-"what is the name of the church?"
I'm sure it was obvious it was a Catholic Church.


46 posted on 02/02/2005 1:11:28 PM PST by okokie (Laura Bush is a REAL WOMAN, a lady with manners and grace)
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To: St. Johann Tetzel
That's pretty definitive ...

They're not Bruces (although some of them want to be).

They're sure no Sheilas (I've seen some of them).

That leaves Poofters.

47 posted on 02/02/2005 1:13:50 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: NYer

funny how the rights of homos are becoming more important that the rights of straight people* it is like our rights are a lesser right*
i do not like using periods*


48 posted on 02/02/2005 1:16:04 PM PST by rawhide
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To: Loyalist
I thought about looking her up, and then realized she may have some goofy explaination.

It's so "I'm a rebel, look at me!!" ish it's not even funny.

49 posted on 02/02/2005 1:18:23 PM PST by arizonarachel
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To: rawhide
nice..i have a reason to justify my horrendous spelling and grammar. I'm moving away from the norm to do a social experiment on people's reactions to it. yes that's it.
50 posted on 02/02/2005 1:26:02 PM PST by tfecw (dolphins are the spawn of evil)
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To: Loyalist
I realized that I had a perfect illustration of how we react when someone moves even a tiny bit away from the norm,

I know exactly what she means: I like to leave the zipper down on my pants...

51 posted on 02/02/2005 1:33:59 PM PST by j. earl carter
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To: j. earl carter

'I realized that I had a perfect illustration of how we react when someone moves even a tiny bit away from the norm,'
'I know exactly what she means: I like to leave the zipper down on my pants...'

Well, my son already does this. He gets your attention quick.


52 posted on 02/02/2005 1:38:32 PM PST by rawhide
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To: Sloth

GALAHAD: Well, look, I-I-uh--
ZOOT: What is your name, handsome knight?
GALAHAD: Sir Galahad... the Chaste.
ZOOT: Mine is Zoot... just Zoot.


53 posted on 02/02/2005 1:45:07 PM PST by kaehurowing
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To: All

ATTENTION CANADIAN PROVINCES WITH SOME NOTION OF SANITY:

ABANDON CANADA TO ITS SELF IMPOSED DOOM AND JOIN THE USA AS A STATE:

http://www.unitednorthamerica.org

END YOUR CANAIDAN HUMILIATION!


54 posted on 02/02/2005 1:54:38 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Truthsearcher

The point I was making (attempting to make) had nothing to do with your particular ethnicity.


55 posted on 02/02/2005 1:55:26 PM PST by dmz
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To: dmz

No, your simply assumed that any one who's against anti-discrimination laws must be a white-supremacist.


56 posted on 02/02/2005 2:02:01 PM PST by Truthsearcher
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To: FixitGuy

Oh, I get it. They weren't thinking!


They were thinking of dollars and notoriety.


57 posted on 02/02/2005 2:05:37 PM PST by mlmr (The Majority of the Murders Committed Worldwide have been Committed by Leftist Governments..........)
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To: NYer
She also likened the Knights' refusal to rent their hall to Ms. Chymyshyn and Ms. Smith as being comparable to a hypothetical case in which, if the Knights ran a daycare, they refused to accept the children of a lesbian couple.


WHOA. Are lesbian couples now having children? It's biologically impossible. Call Ripley's Believe It or Not. Call a press conference.

Okay, so I'm being sarcastic. But I took the statement at face value.

This "same-gender" unionization thing is totally absurd. Same-genders have a greater "separation" percentage than unmarried "real" couples. The whole topic is sickening.

Who's idea was this same-gender thing anyway? Oh, yea, Satan. Now I remember.
58 posted on 02/02/2005 2:27:21 PM PST by HighlyOpinionated (Dear God, we need your presence felt here on earth now more than ever. Amen.)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

Maybe this could be solved by just informing the lesbian couple that the children will be taught Judeo/Christian moral values.


HAS THE 'MARRIAGE' ALREADY TAKEN PLACE??

If not, someone contact the Knights and suggest they 'decorate' the hall with religious posters, paintings, statues, etc. Then see how happy the 'couple' is to broadcast their great sin under the eyes of Mary and the Saints and a few Popes.


59 posted on 02/02/2005 2:32:16 PM PST by HighlyOpinionated (Dear God, we need your presence felt here on earth now more than ever. Amen.)
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To: NYer
To threaten, intimidate, harass, or engage someone in a hostile manner, attempting to force them to accept one's alternative definitions of sexuality or marriage is a form of sexual harassment. It is also a form of religious bigotry when the target is a religious person or institution such as a Catholic organization. Seems like the courts need to reflect a little more carefully on what is going on here. To use intimidation, harassments, threats, and legal pressure to try to force someone or an organization to go against its religious teachings (in the U.S. at least) would be something to investigate as unlawful.

The sexual alternativists need to back down and rethink their strategies and behavior. The in-your-face maneuver is getting a bit silly.

60 posted on 02/02/2005 2:47:49 PM PST by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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