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Gingrich to Pelosi: Change 'Outrageous' SOU Rebuttal
NewsMax ^ | 2/2/05 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 02/02/2005 5:19:38 PM PST by wagglebee

Former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich called on House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi Wednesday afternoon to change her rebuttal to tonight's State of the Union Address, saying the language she intends to use referring to U.S. troops in Iraq as "an occupying force" is "outrageous."

"I hope before she says it tonight that she will withdraw that phrase and does not use it tonight," Gingrich told radio host Sean Hannity. "That's like describing American forces in Germany during the Cold War as an occupying force instead of a force that was protecting the German people from the Soviet Union." In a transcript of her pre-taped remarks released to the press earlier today, the top House Democrat complains: "We all know that the United States cannot stay in Iraq indefinitely and continue to be viewed as an occupying force. Neither should we slip out the back door, falsely declaring victory but leaving chaos."

Gingrich predicted that Pelosi's remarks would be used by America's enemies as a propaganda tool.

"You don't give them a chance to play the Democratic leader around the world saying something that even implies" you're critical of the troops.

"This is a big mistake. It is a bad thing for America. How can you be quiet about something that's this outrageous?" Gingrich said.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: demresponse; iraq; nancypelosi; newtgingrich; occupyingforce; rats; sotu; stateoftheunion
Gingrich predicted that Pelosi's remarks would be used by America's enemies as a propaganda tool.

Newt should just come out and say it:
Pelosi and her ilk are the enemy!

1 posted on 02/02/2005 5:19:38 PM PST by wagglebee
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To: wagglebee
I hope before she says it tonight that she will withdraw that phrase and does not use it tonight,

I pray she doesn't!

2 posted on 02/02/2005 5:21:59 PM PST by lizma
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To: wagglebee

Let her use it. Gives Rush more ammo, like he needs more when taking dowm dems, but let her open her trash mouth.


3 posted on 02/02/2005 5:22:03 PM PST by b4its2late (The Lord made man before woman to give him time to think of an answer for her first question.)
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To: wagglebee

bttt


4 posted on 02/02/2005 5:22:13 PM PST by BenLurkin (Big government is still a big problem.)
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To: wagglebee

Nancy, don't change. I want the Democratic Party dead. Thank you for sharing the same goal.


5 posted on 02/02/2005 5:22:56 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: wagglebee
I hope she uses that phrase.

Pelosi, Kennedy and Dean today's democratic leaders, helping to ensure a Republican Congress, Senate and President.

6 posted on 02/02/2005 5:23:44 PM PST by Michael.SF. ("One day Pilgrim, there will be a knock on the door...." - Paul Lazarro)
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To: Howlin

See what I mean? I wonder if she'll go through with it....


7 posted on 02/02/2005 5:25:47 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: wagglebee

Newt, the Freepers are right and you're wrong. Let the Democrats rip their disguises off and show the country just who they are.


8 posted on 02/02/2005 5:26:02 PM PST by Uncle Fud
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To: wagglebee

But the term "occupying force" fits Democratic sensibilities just fine. I think it reflects the fact that national Democrats are desparate to hold on to the left wing voter. Everything they've done lately seems to be aimed to please the political Left.

It's noteworthy that Iraqi political figures have expressed that they want the "occupying force" - liberating force would be a better term - to stay.


9 posted on 02/02/2005 5:28:36 PM PST by popdonnelly
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To: wagglebee
Newt should just come out and say it: Pelosi and her ilk are the enemy!

You've got that right. She's a Socialist pig and a traitor to the bone!!!

10 posted on 02/02/2005 5:29:00 PM PST by NRA2BFree (NO AMNESTY, NO UN, NO PC, NO BS, NO MSM, NO WHINY @SS LIBERAL BEDWETTERS, NO LIBERAL JUDGES! YEAH!)
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To: wagglebee
I hope she does use that phrase.

Imagine how mothers, wives, and daughters are going feel after they hear Pelosi tell them their loved ones are part of an occupying force.

Aren't there any Democrats that know how to talk without their foot in their mouth?
11 posted on 02/02/2005 5:29:02 PM PST by Noachian (We're all one judge away from tyranny.)
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To: wagglebee; All
"Pelosi and her ilk are the enemy"

Now you got it. Traitors are more like it.

The rats keep trying to pretend this is another Viet Nam. Well it isn't. Communism is a recognized cause,however evil. Terrorism is not. That makes many in the rat party pure and simple "traitors during time of war". It's OK with me if they are tried and jailed.
12 posted on 02/02/2005 5:30:00 PM PST by rodguy911 (rodguy911:First Let's get rid of the UN and the ACLU,..toss in CAIR as well.)
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To: wagglebee

Why is it that only Newt and Zell are willing to call the Democrats on their treasonous conduct ?
The silence from the Republican side sends a clear message to the terrorists.
And a clear message to the base.


13 posted on 02/02/2005 5:31:25 PM PST by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: anniegetyourgun; b4its2late

Oh, lord...don't stop her! Please, I'm begging you, let her say it! OUT LOUD.


14 posted on 02/02/2005 5:32:27 PM PST by Howlin (It's a great day to be an American -- and a Bush Republican!!!!)
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To: wagglebee

Hey Newt! SHUTUP! The Beast is not dead yet.


15 posted on 02/02/2005 5:32:57 PM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: wagglebee

Nancy practicing her rebuttal to the Presidents State of the Union.

16 posted on 02/02/2005 5:33:11 PM PST by carlr
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To: b4its2late

Newt knows that if he says do X, the Dimwits will do Y instead. He is ensuring that Pelosi will use the phrase by asking her not to. :-)


17 posted on 02/02/2005 5:35:58 PM PST by peyton randolph (CAIR supports TROP terrorists)
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To: wagglebee

Looks like the takeover of the Dean wing is complete.


18 posted on 02/02/2005 5:36:40 PM PST by gopwinsin04
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To: wagglebee

The Iraqi people ignored the terrorist threats; they can easily ignore idiot Democrats. If nothing else, the Iraqi people will be prepared to ignore their own version of a future Democratic party.


19 posted on 02/02/2005 5:36:46 PM PST by connectthedots
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To: carlr
I'd love to see the numbers on her and dusty harry's re, or pre or gee rebutal. They are bound to be at or near zero. Not even her party will watch that crap, especially when they already know what DNC points will be covered.
20 posted on 02/02/2005 5:36:53 PM PST by rodguy911 (rodguy911:First Let's get rid of the UN and the ACLU,..toss in CAIR as well.)
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To: wagglebee
She's just parroting Ted Kennedy. All the radical, leftist freaks actually believe their own delusions.

They're slipping more and more into hysteria.
21 posted on 02/02/2005 5:37:16 PM PST by Bullish
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To: wagglebee
It would be interesting to note how the courts would construe the ' aid and comfort ' clause in the treason portion of the Constitution?

A quick definition from www.lectlaw.com says about this clause:
"AID AND COMFORT - The U.S. Constitution, Article VIII, Section III, declares, that adhering to the enemies of the United States, giving them aid and comfort, shall be treason. These words, as they are to be understood in the constitution, have not received a full judicial construction. They import, however, help, support, assistance, countenance, encouragement. The word aid is explained by Lord Coke as comprehending all persons counselling, abetting, plotting, assenting, consenting, and encouraging to do the act, (and he adds, though not applicable to treason; who are not present when the act is done)."

22 posted on 02/02/2005 5:37:56 PM PST by Tench_Coxe
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To: peyton randolph

Yes, good point.


23 posted on 02/02/2005 5:38:23 PM PST by b4its2late (The Lord made man before woman to give him time to think of an answer for her first question.)
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To: wagglebee; All

All of you who are wishing she would say it for political reasons are forgetting that it could cost American lives. Even Hannity said he was not going to mention it anymore so she would say it and look foolish. Who's looking foolish here?


24 posted on 02/02/2005 5:40:31 PM PST by groanup (http://www.fairtax.org)
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To: AmericaUnited

Newt just out to get some facetime. Maybe he will run afterall. I think he should just continue letting them self-destruct.

Although I have a theory; I fear this is all a Clinton effort. Let the left fracture the democrats and put Dean in charge of the DNC to continue building a party divide - opens up a slot for a 3rd party candidate (preferable strong on immigration methinks) to siphon enough votes for Hillary to get in. Thus, you get another Clinton in with less than 50%.


25 posted on 02/02/2005 5:42:28 PM PST by commonguymd (My impatience is far more advanced than any known technology.)
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To: wagglebee

If anyone is an "occupying force" in this country it's the DimoWits and their occupation of any empty-headed, shallow or still-formative wo/man-child that's willing to swallow their tripe.


26 posted on 02/02/2005 5:43:40 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: wagglebee

Until the last dem. is mired neck-deep in quag, let them be. It's not enough to read between the lines their intentions. Loud and frequent outbursts of desperate liberals is becoming good entertainment.


27 posted on 02/02/2005 5:44:41 PM PST by small voice in the wilderness (Quick, act casual. If they sense scorn and ridicule, they'll flee..)
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To: groanup
I think the soldiers, Iraqi's and everyone else in the world know how illegitimate the democrats are. I say let them keep digging the hole, by the time 2008 gets here they won't be able to climb out.
28 posted on 02/02/2005 5:47:07 PM PST by mammer
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To: commonguymd
That's a possibility but equally possible is they get another Nader type instead which works for us.
29 posted on 02/02/2005 5:52:09 PM PST by rodguy911 (rodguy911:First Let's get rid of the UN and the ACLU,..toss in CAIR as well.)
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To: wagglebee

If Im right the only other party to self destruct in US history were the Whig Party right? Man, the Rats are really trying to tie the record.

And what is up with their leadership? Pelosi and Reid are leading their troops off of a cliff, and they are about to give Dean command of their armies. They are all committing suicide. Its like Jonestown all over again!


30 posted on 02/02/2005 5:53:12 PM PST by darkmatter (Let them hate. As long as they fear.)
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To: Noachian

Someone should take her "minority whip" away and just hand her a shovel.


31 posted on 02/02/2005 5:57:58 PM PST by bootless (Never Forget - And Never Again)
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To: wagglebee

Why did Gingrich warn her...how foolish...let her dig their grave!


32 posted on 02/02/2005 6:01:16 PM PST by montag813
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To: montag813

Then again, he may have done it just to make her do it. It's not like Pelosi would ever take Newt's advice.


33 posted on 02/02/2005 6:02:23 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee

The rats just keep making the wrong moves. Maybe next year they will invite the French/German Ambassadors to provide commentary and rebuttal.


34 posted on 02/02/2005 6:02:39 PM PST by crazyhorse691 (We won. We don't need to be forgiving. Let the heads roll!!!!!!!!!)
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To: crazyhorse691

Or maybe Ramsey Clarke.


35 posted on 02/02/2005 6:04:49 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee
Maybe she will mention the "occupation" of Kosovo also.

The President back then said we would be home by Christmas, 1999.

Oh nevermind that was Clinton so that "occupation" is ok.

36 posted on 02/02/2005 6:17:32 PM PST by Joe Miner
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To: montag813

The poor wide eyed fool could not resist, she just said it.


37 posted on 02/02/2005 7:23:52 PM PST by denlittle
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To: denlittle
"The poor wide eyed fool could not resist, she just said it."

She sure did. Unbelievable. When some Freeper gets the video of her saying off of a terrorist website pleas e-mail the link to her.

38 posted on 02/02/2005 7:32:51 PM PST by groanup (http://www.fairtax.org)
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To: montag813
Why did Gingrich warn her...how foolish...let her dig their grave!

He was "politely" warning all of us to watch for it. He knew NP would never listen to what he said.

39 posted on 02/02/2005 7:34:55 PM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: wagglebee
Pelosi is part of the evil trio of liberal/commie chicks we are forever stuck with in California. To think that she would come to her senses and change her comments is just dreaming. They are all three an embarrassment to my state.
40 posted on 02/02/2005 7:37:36 PM PST by ladyinred (Congratulations to President Bush and VP Cheney!!)
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To: wagglebee
"We all know that the United States cannot stay in Iraq indefinitely and continue to be viewed as an occupying force. Neither should we slip out the back door, falsely declaring victory but leaving chaos."

Yep, she actually said, I listened to the rebuttal by Reid and Pelosi.

Now excuse me while I go de-louse.

41 posted on 02/02/2005 7:43:39 PM PST by Henchster
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To: Henchster

Pelosi even went as far as to tell the terrorists what we have left unguarded since 9/11.


42 posted on 02/02/2005 8:02:49 PM PST by Dog
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To: WildTurkey
He was "politely" warning all of us to watch for it. He knew NP would never listen to what he said.

she changed it from "Americans are an occupying army" to "we are seen as an occupying force"

43 posted on 02/02/2005 8:56:40 PM PST by montag813
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To: wagglebee

Here's where she said that American troops have failed:

"Despite the best efforts of our troops and their Iraqi counterparts, Iraq still faces a violent and persistent insurgency, and the Chairman of the National Intelligence Council said in January that Iraq is now a magnet for international terrorists."


44 posted on 02/02/2005 9:01:42 PM PST by eyespysomething (I'm speechless here, but don't worry, it won't last long. Ask my husband.)
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To: wagglebee

Even California will be sick of her ass by the time she's been in office another term.


45 posted on 02/02/2005 10:22:30 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Ted "Kids, I Sunk the Honey" Kennedy is just a drunk who's never held a job (or had to).)
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To: wagglebee
When she came on the screen, I grabbed the remote. Even an old episode of "Law and Order" was preferable to watching the wide-eyed Ms. Pelosi. Image Hosted by ImageShack.us
46 posted on 02/02/2005 10:25:44 PM PST by .38sw
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To: commonguymd
Although I have a theory; I fear this is all a Clinton effort. Let the left fracture the democrats and put Dean in charge of the DNC to continue building a party divide - opens up a slot for a 3rd party candidate (preferable strong on immigration methinks) to siphon enough votes for Hillary to get in. Thus, you get another Clinton in with less than 50%.

One GIANT flaw in this theory is that if the 3rd party candidate is on the left, is robs a ton of votes from Hitlery.

47 posted on 02/03/2005 3:02:10 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: AmericaUnited

The middle might go either way. You are right, a far left candidate may hurt her. I don't see that as the plan though. Just something to watch. She knows she could never get 50% in a straight up election. Her husband was gifted by a third party candidate.


48 posted on 02/03/2005 3:10:28 AM PST by commonguymd (My impatience is far more advanced than any known technology.)
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