America the Incredible

TechCentralStation ^ | 02/03/2005 | Douglas Kern

[Tolik]

Nailed It!

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[Darkwolf377]

Interesting idea. If you look at the majority of comic books, though, they're absolutely NOT about moral clarity these days. They're nauseatingly PC, and instead of the great Marvel sophistication of having the heroics come with a price--innocent bystanders being hurt, heroes sometimes questioning their own actions--they're crammed with Mikey Moorisms (I think a Captain America issue made refernce to the War on Terror as being Fascist or something) and more "soul searching" than interesting stories. I'm basing this on a casual sample, though, since I haven't read comics in 20 years and am prejudist against anyone over 18 who's into comic books. :)

[Stultis]

If you look at the majority of comic books, though, they're absolutely NOT about moral clarity these days. They're nauseatingly PC

I find it hard to believe that comic books like that are big sellers. I was never into comic books, but to the best of my (admittedly faltering) recollection there's probably no demographic more viscerally conservative than 9-12 year old males.

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[Darkwolf377]

Check out the comic rack. You'll see the average reader is a LOT older than it was when we were reading them, and the quality of the paper and art has improved accordingly, while the politics are pretty tansparently leftist.

[knews_hound]

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[Jonah Hex]

They're nauseatingly PC...

I was NEVER politically correct!

[Darkwolf377]

LOL! Jonah Hex got pretty ghoulish and twisted twenty-odd years ago. The violence and depravity were pretty much ahead of their time, like the one where Hex was killed and stuffed. Mind-blowing stuff for a comic!

[KC_Conspirator]

Today's comic books can be awful. Especially the real modern ones. For example, after 911, some liberal comic writer thought it good to make Captain America, yes that Capt. America, to hate-America.

If these comic writers were writing back in WWII we'd be speaking German and answering to the Red Skull.

[Jonah Hex]

Yep, that was back when I was in college (late 70's). Weird westerns were in at the time...

[Darkwolf377]

AH, so I didn't imagine that Capt. America thing, thanks for clarifying that.

Yeah, you're right, if this was WW2 we'd be reading about Red Skull being a product of a bad home, and instead of a shield Cap would deal with him using a red-white-and-blue box of Kleenex.

[KC_Conspirator]

The article is right about America and superheros thopugh. No wonder the Incredibles did so well.

[KC_Conspirator]

Today's Capt. America would be marrying Bucky.

[CharacterCounts]

there's probably no demographic more viscerally conservative than 9-12 year old males.

My 12 year old son had to write a short essay providing his logic on whether nuclear power/energy eas a good or bad thing. His essay in favor of nuclear energy started out First, nuclear bombs are the best.

[momfirst]

there's probably no demographic more viscerally conservative than 9-12 year old males

As a mother of a 13 year old male, I can assure you that your recollection holds true for many a young male today. Given that age bracket and recent events, I do see a strong tie between the events of 9/11 and the shaping of these youth. IMHO

[momfirst]

The article is right about America and superheros thopugh. No wonder the Incredibles did so well.

Ditto that. I love the correlation they made between the hero-of-the-day and the issues-of-the-day. Interestingly enough, I came to work today to find my e-bay-purchased Mr. Incredible costume arrived for my youngest son. (Wolverine and Spiderman suits are getting worn out....Superheroes ROCK in my house!) ;-)

[Cicero]

If you look at the majority of comic books, though, they're absolutely NOT about moral clarity these days. They're nauseatingly PC.

Very true. And some of the older superheroes are now darker, weaker, less certain of themselves. That's because their writers and publishers are leftists.

The recent Batman movies are of that kind. Hard to tell which are the heroes and which are the villains, sometimes.

Mr. Incredible is the wonderful exception, a real hero for our time. No irony, no doubts, just plain heroism. And no family complexities or perversions, but just an ordinary, loving, nuclear family. That's why the movie is so wonderful.

Remember after 9/11 when the critics all said that Hollywood would now abandon its irony and cynicism. It did--for about 5 minutes. Then back to the same old doom and gloom. But ordinary Americans didn't revert, just the elitist self-anointed opinion leaders. Mr. Incredible speaks to real Americans, not the effete snobs of the left.

[Darkwolf377]

I don't mind moral ambiguity or comic book/Hollywood leftist ideology in movies as long as there is representation--not even equal representation, just SOME--of the other views. Libs in Hollywood never seem to see how their practices don't follow their rhetoric, and in the case of the ideological bases of their movies, it just makes everything boringly the same.

[grellis]

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