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Organisms Found in Deepest Part of Ocean
AP via My Way News ^ | Feb 3, 2005 | RANDOLPH E. SCHMID

Posted on 02/03/2005 12:21:09 PM PST by 68skylark

WASHINGTON (AP) - Tiny single-celled organisms, many of them previously unknown, have been discovered beneath nearly seven miles of water in the deepest part of the ocean.

A sample of sediment collected from the Challenger Deep southwest of Guam in the Pacific Ocean Islands yielded several hundred foraminifera, a type of plankton that is usually abundant near the ocean surface.

"On the species level, all the species we found from the Challenger Deep are quite new," researcher Hiroshi Kitazato said vie e-mail.

The outer shapes are similar to other known foraminifera, but details of their structure differ, explained Kitazato, of the Institute for Research on Earth Evolution, Japan Agency for Marine-Earth Science and Technology.

"I am very surprised that so many very simple, soft-shelled foraminifera are dwelling at the deepest point of the world ocean," he added.

"It is also exiting that most of the group belong to the oldest branch of foraminifera," he added, suggesting that these deep locations may form some sort of refuge for them.

These distinct creatures probably represent the remnants of a deep-dwelling group that was able to adapt to the high pressures, the researchers suggest in reporting the find. Their discovery is reported in this week's issue of the journal Science.

Because the water is so deep, the pressure where the find was made is 1,100 times more than normal atmospheric pressure at the surface.

While many foraminifera have hard shells, the researchers noted that this newly found group does not.

Similar, though not identical, groups have been found in other, slightly shallower, ocean trenches, they note.

The creatures probably can exist by ingesting particles of organic matter that drift down from above or materials that are dissolved in the seawater, Kitazato said.

The research was funded by the Japan Agency for Marine-Earth Science and Technology, the Japan Society for Promotion of Science, the Kaplan Foundation and the Natural Environment Research Council.

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1 posted on 02/03/2005 12:21:09 PM PST by 68skylark
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To: 68skylark

Well my mind is now officially in the gutter:)


2 posted on 02/03/2005 12:22:20 PM PST by JustAnAmerican (Being Independent means never having to say you're Partisan)
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To: 68skylark

Here I thought we were going to read something like shades of "The Abyss".


3 posted on 02/03/2005 12:23:13 PM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: PatrickHenry; cogitator
This may be of interest.

PH-is this worth pinging the crevo list for?

4 posted on 02/03/2005 12:23:36 PM PST by RightWingAtheist (Marxism-the creationism of the left)
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To: 68skylark

5 posted on 02/03/2005 12:23:36 PM PST by Maceman (Too nuanced for a bumper sticker)
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To: 68skylark

That's what's meant by "occupying a niche."


6 posted on 02/03/2005 12:24:06 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: JustAnAmerican

Don't feel bad, I thought it said orgasms.


7 posted on 02/03/2005 12:24:30 PM PST by Jay777 (Gen. Tommy Franks for President in 08)
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To: JustAnAmerican

Organisms not ORGASMS, planckton breath. lol :-)

nikos


8 posted on 02/03/2005 12:25:15 PM PST by nikos1121
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To: 68skylark

Dang. I thought it was Ted Kennedy who was lower than whale feces.


9 posted on 02/03/2005 12:25:47 PM PST by colorado tanker (The People Have Spoken)
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To: 68skylark
Organisms Found in Deepest Part of Ocean ...used to be on top before Noah's worldwide flood judgement from Creator-Moral God of the BIBLE!

:-)

10 posted on 02/03/2005 12:25:55 PM PST by maestro
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To: JustAnAmerican

*raises hand*


11 posted on 02/03/2005 12:27:12 PM PST by FreedomFarmer (There was some amusing irony in the discovery that the hippy was dispatched with a dum-dum...)
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To: Jay777

Yes, The ORGAniSMS were found in the deepest, darkest, wettest, most vulnerable part of the ocean where man had thrust his long hard probe for the last vestiges of life ......


12 posted on 02/03/2005 12:28:09 PM PST by Red Badger (ANONYMOUS IRAQI VOTER: "I dipped it deep as if I was poking the eyes of all the world's tyrants.)
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To: 68skylark

WOW, what a place to have sex


13 posted on 02/03/2005 12:28:32 PM PST by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: RightWingAtheist
PH-is this worth pinging the crevo list for?

Yeah, it's interesting. I'll ping the list. (How do I make these decisions?)

14 posted on 02/03/2005 12:29:00 PM PST by PatrickHenry (<-- Click on my name. The List-O-Links for evolution threads is at my freeper homepage.)
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To: Doctor Stochastic

At least it's not trying to survive in an overgrown Marin County culvert...


15 posted on 02/03/2005 12:29:40 PM PST by Buck W. (How can anyone who works for a living vote democrat?)
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To: Red Badger

I understand the trip down was a REALLY hairy experience!


16 posted on 02/03/2005 12:29:52 PM PST by MortMan (Be careful what you wish for... You might get it!)
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To: 68skylark
Tiny single-celled organisms, many of them previously unknown, have been discovered beneath nearly seven miles of water in the deepest part of the ocean.

Future Democrat voters? Paging Mr. Dean, please pick up the white courtesy phone...

17 posted on 02/03/2005 12:30:19 PM PST by COBOL2Java (If this isn't the End Times it certainly is a reasonable facsimile...)
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To: VadeRetro; Junior; longshadow; RadioAstronomer; Doctor Stochastic; js1138; Shryke; RightWhale; ...
EvolutionPing
A pro-evolution science list with over 230 names. See list's description at my homepage. FReepmail to be added/dropped.

18 posted on 02/03/2005 12:30:33 PM PST by PatrickHenry (<-- Click on my name. The List-O-Links for evolution threads is at my freeper homepage.)
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To: 68skylark; Owl_Eagle; Sam's Army
Organisms Found in Deepest Part of Ocean

Well, if chlamydia and other bacteria can exist in Paris Hilton, I don't see why this is so surprising.

19 posted on 02/03/2005 12:31:12 PM PST by HenryLeeII (Democrats have helped kill more Americans than the Soviets and Nazis combined!)
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To: 68skylark

20 posted on 02/03/2005 12:31:35 PM PST by BenLurkin (Big government is still a big problem.)
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To: 68skylark
Because the water is so deep, the pressure where the find was made is 1,100 times more than normal atmospheric pressure at the surface.

Betchya it makes their ears pop.

21 posted on 02/03/2005 12:32:39 PM PST by Lazamataz (Proudly Posting Without Reading the Article Since 1999!)
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To: Alamo-Girl
"On the species level, all the species we found from the Challenger Deep are quite new," researcher Hiroshi Kitazato said vie e-mail. The outer shapes are similar to other known foraminifera, but details of their structure differ ...

We were talking, a day or so ago, about "new" phyla. This is the sort of thing I was thinking about. (Whether this is a good example or not, I haven't a clue.) It could be happening, or be on the verge of happening, almost all the time. It's difficult to know except after millions of years of hindsight.

22 posted on 02/03/2005 12:34:17 PM PST by PatrickHenry (<-- Click on my name. The List-O-Links for evolution threads is at my freeper homepage.)
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To: 68skylark
the pressure where the find was made is 1,100 times more than normal atmospheric pressure at the surface.

Air pressure on Venus is 100 times earth's atmospheric pressure. The Goldilocks band is not as narrow as it at first appears.

23 posted on 02/03/2005 12:37:32 PM PST by RightWhale (Please correct if cosmic balance requires.)
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To: Red Badger

You owe me a keyboard!!! ;-)


24 posted on 02/03/2005 12:39:26 PM PST by HOYA97 (Hoya Saxa = What Rocks)
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To: HOYA97

I don't but keyboards for perverts with dirty minds......;^)


26 posted on 02/03/2005 12:41:42 PM PST by Red Badger (ANONYMOUS IRAQI VOTER: "I dipped it deep as if I was poking the eyes of all the world's tyrants.)
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To: RightWhale

Speaking of Venus, it would be nice for NASA (or whoever) to send a mission to check the Venusian atmosphere for evidence of microbial life.


27 posted on 02/03/2005 12:44:32 PM PST by AntiGuv (™)
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To: Lazamataz

All life on earth is made up of intelligent single cell organisms, whose only desire is life.

It cares not where, nor how, it just knows that it will find a way to adapt and keep on living.

Scientists talk of mutation, where random changes are made, and those that work best are kept, because the creature lives.

While some of this is true, most 'mutation' is a willing change by the individual cells to adapt to new environments and find a way to survive.

There are creatures in the ocean that spend part of their life like a plant, with roots in the bottom, and stalks.

Later, they pull up root, so to speak, and change into a snakelike creature that swims through the ocean.

Rhinoceros beetles decide how to make their 'armor' look. It doesn't just grow, they participate in exactly how it (the chitin) grows.

A virus enters the body and makes up a combination of molecules(chemicals) shaped like various keys or geometric shapes, that will enter a normal cell, lock into place, and disable it. They do this without before running into the first normal cell. They know what and how to make the 'keys' before they get to the lock. Pretty smart, huh?



A human changes according to the way we think about ourselves and see ourselves. Our intelligence is made up of the collective intelligence of each individual cell.

The first creature on Earth, the oldest, and the most in number, is the same creature we are, and are made of.

Eukaryotes.


28 posted on 02/03/2005 12:47:03 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (sH)
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To: JustAnAmerican

Mine too...I read "orgasms"! LOL


29 posted on 02/03/2005 12:48:21 PM PST by gimme1ibertee (Lefty liberals never met a brain cell they could recognize.)
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To: UCANSEE2

P.S. Sorry, the PROKARYOTES were first. The Eukaryotes were second, having an internal engine (nucleus) which the PK's don't. A Eukaryote is a prokaryote with a booster engine.

They helped convert the atmosphere so further life could develop.

They are our God, but who created them?


30 posted on 02/03/2005 12:50:28 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (sH)
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To: Red Badger

Woods Hole was not involved.


31 posted on 02/03/2005 12:53:14 PM PST by OSHA (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: UCANSEE2

The architects of the earth's atmosphere were primarily the cyanobacteria, which are prokaryotes.


32 posted on 02/03/2005 12:55:05 PM PST by AntiGuv (™)
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To: 68skylark

Via Drudge??


33 posted on 02/03/2005 1:11:13 PM PST by Coleus (Brooke Shields aborted how many children? http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1178497/posts)
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To: 68skylark
They need to figure out if the 3 big Jovian moons that might have oceans do and whether there is any life in them. If there isn't, send a probe filled with every hearty species of life we can find in the oceans and drop them on in there.
34 posted on 02/03/2005 1:12:02 PM PST by Question_Assumptions
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To: 68skylark
It is also exiting that most of the group belong to the oldest branch of foraminifera," he added, suggesting that these deep locations may form some sort of refuge for them.

Someone needs to go back to cladistics school. By definition, and by logic, the branches are of the same age.
35 posted on 02/03/2005 1:29:48 PM PST by self_evident
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To: HenryLeeII
Well, if chlamydia and other bacteria can exist in Paris Hilton, I don't see why this is so surprising.

Ick. My thought was since geo-thermal vents have bacteria.. I'm not surprised by this.

Think you need to take a break from pop culture heh. :)
36 posted on 02/03/2005 1:34:00 PM PST by self_evident
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To: Question_Assumptions

At the same time as Earth was infused, those moons probably were.


37 posted on 02/03/2005 1:36:14 PM PST by ASA Vet (Those who know, don't talk. Those who talk, don't know.)
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To: OSHA

But I bet Bedford was......


38 posted on 02/03/2005 1:45:32 PM PST by Red Badger (ANONYMOUS IRAQI VOTER: "I dipped it deep as if I was poking the eyes of all the world's tyrants.)
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To: PatrickHenry

Thanks for the ping! Indeed, I wonder how they will date the emergence of it absent a geologic record?


39 posted on 02/03/2005 1:57:59 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl
... absent a geologic record?

They can dig a sea-floor core and look for older specimens. They might be fossilized. (I'm not sure if fossils of such animals are possible, and I'm not sure they can operate a dig that deep.)

40 posted on 02/03/2005 2:01:39 PM PST by PatrickHenry (<-- Click on my name. The List-O-Links for evolution threads is at my freeper homepage.)
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To: 68skylark

Talk about deep thoughts.


41 posted on 02/03/2005 2:03:59 PM PST by ValenB4
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To: lilylangtree
to read something like shades of "The Abyss".

Abyssians??

42 posted on 02/03/2005 5:06:50 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
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To: colorado tanker
I thought it was Ted Kennedy who was lower than whale feces.

..nothing has been shown, that he still isn't. IMHO, These Organisms are still a much higher (on many levels) lifeform than many (if not all) Washington D.C. Liberals. :^)

43 posted on 02/03/2005 5:18:47 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
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To: PatrickHenry

Thanks.. :^)


44 posted on 02/03/2005 5:19:56 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
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To: JustAnAmerican

Don't feel bad, you're in good company. I'm going to go genuflect or something now.


45 posted on 02/03/2005 5:22:24 PM PST by ShadowDancer (Vivere est cogitare)
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To: JustAnAmerican

I did not have sex with that sea canyon, the Merianas trench.


46 posted on 02/03/2005 5:24:27 PM PST by Dinsdale
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To: Lazamataz

I wonder how far down a full beer can would make it before being crushed like a bug?


47 posted on 02/03/2005 5:29:06 PM PST by calex59
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To: PatrickHenry

"We were talking, a day or so ago, about "new" phyla. This is the sort of thing I was thinking about. (Whether this is a good example or not, I haven't a clue.) It could be happening, or be on the verge of happening, almost all the time. It's difficult to know except after millions of years of hindsight."

As a bugologist, IMHO, these are more likely an old group, just newly discovered, especially since the authors said they were related to the oldest branch of the forams.


48 posted on 02/03/2005 6:16:12 PM PST by furball4paws ("These are Microbes."... "You have crobes?" BC)
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To: PatrickHenry

"They can dig a sea-floor core and look for older specimens. They might be fossilized. (I'm not sure if fossils of such animals are possible, and I'm not sure they can operate a dig that deep.)"

A sea floor core is technically possibly, but very difficult at that depth. The bugs are "soft shelled", so a fossil is possible, but highly unlikely. Think of a foram as a single celled snail. Hard shelled forams are very common fossils.


49 posted on 02/03/2005 6:21:55 PM PST by furball4paws ("These are Microbes."... "You have crobes?" BC)
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To: furball4paws
... these are more likely an old group, just newly discovered, especially since the authors said they were related to the oldest branch of the forams.

Seems likely. I was just using this as an example. A new body type could pop up. In a crowded world it would have a tough time, and it would take forever for it -- and its ever-varying progeny -- to be recognized as a new phylum. The whole conjecture was in response to a question about "why don't we see new phyla"?

50 posted on 02/03/2005 6:23:30 PM PST by PatrickHenry (<-- Click on my name. The List-O-Links for evolution threads is at my freeper homepage.)
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