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Big Media Won't Touch Agenda 21
SierraTimes.com ^ | Feb 3, 2005 | Nancy Levant

Posted on 02/03/2005 10:37:05 PM PST by hedgetrimmer

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To: Kay Ludlow

Thank you. I will remember that.


541 posted on 02/05/2005 8:54:53 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: RonPaulLives

self-ping for future reference; great thread on truth.


542 posted on 02/05/2005 9:07:28 PM PST by RonPaulLives (Never trust anything ending in "u." For example, "DU," "EU," "I love you")
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To: Kay Ludlow
Take Back Pennsylvania (TBPA) is a relatively new group modeled on Take Back Kentucky. TBKY has been very successful in rolling back a variety of state government excesses and protecting the individual rights (including property rights) of their citizens.

My ears were ringing! Howdy; I attend the regular meetings of Take Back Kentucky. Norm Davis is a friend of mine.

543 posted on 02/05/2005 9:11:06 PM PST by RonPaulLives (Never trust anything ending in "u." For example, "DU," "EU," "I love you")
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To: A Balrog of Morgoth
>"Conservatism is ascendent in this country."<

- I don't know...with a 2.7 trillion dollar federal budget, and a huge deficit, the Republicans in Congress don't even have the stones to stop funding the National Endowment for the Arts or PeeB.S.


>"The aging watermelons in their environmental wackotanks can churn out all the "plans" they want to."<

- Do a google search on World Heritage Sites and our National Parks:

At present, there are 15 U.N.ESCO World Heritage Sites that are also units of our National Park Service. They are listed below, along with the years in which the properties were established as World Heritage sites.

Carlsbad Caverns National Park (1995)

Chaco Culture National Historical Park (1987)

Everglades National Park (1979)

Grand Canyon National Park (1979)

Great Smoky Mountains National Park (1983)

Hawaii Volcanoes National Park (1987)
(International Biosphere Reserve and World Heritage Site)

Independence National Historical Park (1979)

Mammoth Cave National Park (1981)

Mesa Verde National Park (1978)

Olympic National Park (1981)

Pueblo de Taos (1992)

Redwood National Park (1980)

San Juan National Historic Site (1983)

Statue of Liberty National Monument and Ellis Island (1984)

Yellowstone National Park (1978)

Yosemite National Park (1984)

544 posted on 02/05/2005 9:26:28 PM PST by FBD ("A nation without borders is not a nation." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: Mudboy Slim

>"Yeah...didn't I tell ya, I invented Agenda 21 when I has third year at UVA "<

- {G}!


545 posted on 02/05/2005 9:28:29 PM PST by FBD ("A nation without borders is not a nation." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: hedgetrimmer; All

One of the ploys I have heard rumors of in Missouri is that some rural countys do not have the financial resources to operate county government. (Salaries are mandated by the state for county officials). So if the county cannot afford to operate the courthouse, we will build a new "regional" court house so as to pool the resources and still be able to provide "services".
And along with that a regional jail etc.

Centralization of government is a dangerous trend. As your post points out, regional planning alliances are good ideas in the eyes of county officials who are strapped for cash.

Another trend. Rural schools are consolidated because tax levys are too high to keep small rural schools in operation. Of course, teachers salarys are mandated by the state also. So small districts have to pay city scale in many cases to compete for teachers. So much for budgets.

So look at the problem from this angle. The state mandates county officials salarys and teachers salarys. When districts or countys cannot perform to state imposed standards, the state takes over one segment at a time. Local government and local school boards lose control.
The people lose control over cirriculum. They lose local law enforcement and they lose judges. Road maintainance falls behind. People have to travel further to pay taxes or attend public hearings. Elected officials are no longer in your neighborhood, or your community. Some officials are appointed by political affiliation.

Regional government is dangerous. Keep in mind most of the financial problems in countys are imposed unfunded mandates by the state. Mandates are usually slipped into a large appropriations bill after a makeshift hearing is held. Strange thing is that when makeshift hearings are conducted, the people who are in favor of the mandate always seem to get a few representitives to the hearing, but for some reason the press never made it known the hearing was to take place.

It is especially good to watch certain state committees, especially appropriations, education, and social services.
It is not hard to find the committee hearing schedules.
It is not hard to find drafts of proposed legislation either. But the fine print will make your eyes blur.
That is it's intended purpose. Usually the kicker is the one sentence or a phrase that makes all the difference.


546 posted on 02/05/2005 9:37:48 PM PST by o_zarkman44
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To: o_zarkman44; SierraWasp; forester; Seadog Bytes; farmfriend; Kay Ludlow; sport; DoughtyOne; ...
One of the ploys I have heard rumors of in Missouri is that some rural county's do not have the financial resources to operate county government. (Salaries are mandated by the state for county officials). So if the county cannot afford to operate the courthouse, we will build a new "regional" court house so as to pool the resources and still be able to provide "services".

This is one of the primary reasons Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger created the Sierra Nevada Conservancy, which created a council to oversee the economic use of natural resources on private property among other things. Now many of the 20 counties in the conservancy are owned up to 90% by state and federal governments. Those counties are guaranteed to be bankrupt by unelected councils regulating the few remaining acres of private property.

You are exactly right that regional governments intend to bust county governments so they can be easily incorporated into the "regional framework".

Thanks for your real world example of the dangers of regionalism, and I hope others see this and learn.
547 posted on 02/05/2005 9:53:25 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: Kay Ludlow; Paul_Denton; hedgetrimmer; pbrown
I am suggesting that we come up with a different name or title for the effort to bring back the America we all love, because the words "Take Back" are being used by the right and wrong people, IMHO

This one is a Christian 'religous' petition; Take America Back

This is an article. How To Take Back America

This is a magazine Take Back America

This is a group with Progressives(communists),liberals, James Dean, Jesse Jackson and his ilk. Take Back America Conference in 2004

548 posted on 02/05/2005 10:06:40 PM PST by B4Ranch (Don't remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: B4Ranch

I see your point.


549 posted on 02/05/2005 10:21:34 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: B4Ranch
United For America's Future?

Just throw something out....

550 posted on 02/05/2005 10:33:10 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: pbrown; B4Ranch; All

Let's put our heads together and figure this out. Definitely worth while.

B4Ranch any ideas?


551 posted on 02/05/2005 10:43:57 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: hedgetrimmer
There must be some advertising people who are here.

Maybe a name that would call up our past patriots. One of our forefathers who fought and died for this country. There are many in our rich history.

552 posted on 02/05/2005 11:11:51 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: hedgetrimmer

I am fighting with poltergist over who controls this computer.


553 posted on 02/05/2005 11:23:09 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: hedgetrimmer

Americans at War
for Freedom
from the UN


554 posted on 02/05/2005 11:27:26 PM PST by B4Ranch (Don't remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: B4Ranch

Seems a bit long. IMHO.


555 posted on 02/05/2005 11:29:52 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: B4Ranch

Americans Freedom From the UN.........A.F.F.U.N.?????Just juggling it a bit.


556 posted on 02/05/2005 11:32:29 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: pbrown; B4Ranch

How about Americans Launching Fight against the UN, A.L.F.U.N.


557 posted on 02/05/2005 11:37:01 PM PST by farmfriend ( Congratulations. You are everything we've come to expect from years of government training.)
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To: pbrown
Agenda 21

Adnega 12.

To reverse the damage done by Agenda 21.

558 posted on 02/05/2005 11:37:54 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: farmfriend
The first thing I see is 'Alien Life Form' in the initials.
559 posted on 02/05/2005 11:44:16 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: farmfriend; B4Ranch

Critique mine.


560 posted on 02/05/2005 11:46:08 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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