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Big Media Won't Touch Agenda 21
SierraTimes.com ^ | Feb 3, 2005 | Nancy Levant

Posted on 02/03/2005 10:37:05 PM PST by hedgetrimmer

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To: hedgetrimmer

What a lot of folks don't understand, it's not necessary or required to actually own something to control it.


81 posted on 02/04/2005 12:11:45 AM PST by Freedom4US
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To: All
ON THE NET...


UN.org: "Welcome to the UN. It's Your World."

UN.org: "UNITED NATIONS DIVISION FOR SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT AGENDA 21" (UN WEB SITE SNIPPET: "Agenda 21 is a comprehensive plan of action to be taken globally, nationally and locally by organizations of the United Nations System, Governments, and Major Groups in every area in which human impacts on the environment.")

"UNglobalCompact.org"

www.itu.int/wsis: "WSIS: THE WORLD SUMMIT ON THE INFORMATION SOCIETY"

GLOBAL POLICY FORUM

82 posted on 02/04/2005 12:12:33 AM PST by Cindy
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To: Free2BeMe; forester

It appears to be very much part of the land. Thanks for posting the article, I've sent it along to some of my timber owning friends here in Santa Cruz County CA


83 posted on 02/04/2005 12:13:25 AM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: A Balrog of Morgoth
Protocols of Zion

What is that?

84 posted on 02/04/2005 12:16:23 AM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: A Balrog of Morgoth
Rwanda's 800.000 dead is NOT and example of buffoonery. It IS and example of an organization with extraordinary power in the world with an utter lack of respect for human life and human endeavors. The UN is right in league with Hitler, Stalin, and Pol Pot when it comes to the destruction of human life. That is not incompetence or buffoonery. It is evil.
85 posted on 02/04/2005 12:20:43 AM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: DoughtyOne
Let's face it, the conservancy you are upset about, would have become reality just about no matter what.

I doubt that. Davis did veto it remember. It would not have passes except that it was pushed by Arnold.

86 posted on 02/04/2005 12:22:04 AM PST by farmfriend ( Congratulations. You are everything we've come to expect from years of government training.)
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To: hedgetrimmer

I agree. And the UN just sits back and watches. Look at Darfur today, same thing happening again. But the UN will not call it genocide.


87 posted on 02/04/2005 12:23:27 AM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: A Balrog of Morgoth; hedgetrimmer

It was Amendment 24 in Colorado in 2000, with mentions of "smart growth," "sustainable development" and the like. We defeated it. ...might have also been a county (non-amendment) ballot issue on that here then. Hedgetrimmer, you might want to have your Oklahoma acquaintainces search and look over the information on the Web about the Colorado episode.

Keywords: colorado "Amendment 24"
(with the quotes)

You'll see many more hits than the following with those keywords in the search engine.

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Basic information on Amendment 24
http://www.egreeley.com/messages/124.html

Basic information on Amendment 24
Submitted by Roxanne Fry on 07:55:23 09/23/00:

Amendment 24, a proposal by the Colorado Environmental Coalition, mandates that local governments comply with statewide provisions stipulated in the amendment to limit growth. Under the amendment, local governments must designate “committed growth areas” where development is underway and designate “ future growth areas” where development may occur over a determined period of time. The voters at a November election shall approve these Growth area maps, and a corresponding growth impact statement. Any subsequent amendment to the Growth Area Map must be placed before the voters within the jurisdiction at a subsequent November election. This 2,200-word amendment to the Colorado Constitution opens the doors to serious implications for affordable housing, agriculture, economic development, and business.

· IMPOSSIBLE TO GROW YOUR BUSINESS. The amendment locks us into a “growth area” or a “no growth area”, and then makes it virtually impossible to obtain approval for business expansion, office buildings, commercial centers, and development, much less future schools, roads, and homes outside of urban areas.

· REDUCED LAND VALUES. If voters fail to approve growth area maps, farm and ranch land near urban areas would diminish in value dramatically.

· COSTLY LITIGATION. The threat of litigation will prevent local governments from instating “Smart Growth” management plans.

· INFRINGES ON PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS. Landowners trying to divide even one tract of land would be prohibited from doing so unless voters approve an amendment to a growth area map.

· HOUSING COSTS. This amendment will drive up the costs of new homes and restricts the available affordable housing. Housing will be so expensive that many of our public servants like teachers, policemen and firefighters will not be able to live in the communities they serve.

· COSTLY ELECTIONS. Requires costly and confusing citywide and countywide elections once a year to amend growth maps to allow any growth. All plans of would be sent to all voters prior to election.

· ENDS LOCAL CONTROL. Requires the consent of adjacent local governments to change a growth area map. The initiative says that growth area maps “shall not conflict with or overlap” existing or proposed growth areas of another local government. So one local government can be held hostage by a neighboring government. The initiative transfers a portion of the approval process from those living in a locality to citizens in adjacent towns and counties.

· FORCES A $60 MILLION PRICE TAG ON TAXPAYERS. This measure wastes your taxes on red tape and severely reduces hard to come by affordable housing. It will push unfounded mandates on local government. Crippling financial obligations will be imposed on cites and counties.

· ADDS 2200 WORDS TO THE COLORADO CONSTITUTION. Amends the Constitution with over 2200 words of complex procedures to limit local governments and to outline citizens’ management of growth. This “one-size-fits-all” approach opens the door to devastating unintended consequences.

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88 posted on 02/04/2005 12:24:50 AM PST by familyop ("Let us try" sounds better, don't you think? "Essayons" is so...Latin.)
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To: A Balrog of Morgoth
No, It isn't really happening "this time", it's been happening all along. As far as shivering around the campfire, I base my opinions in reality and can see what's clearly under my nose. When is the last time you researched all the UN involvement in U.S. policy? The breadth is truly staggering.
The terrorist ARE a real threat, but we also are aware of that threat. It's the snake you don't see that bites you. But then what's the point of arguing with someone who's user name is a Demon from Lord of the Rings? ;)
89 posted on 02/04/2005 12:25:14 AM PST by Free2BeMe
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To: A Balrog of Morgoth

I definitely don't want to argue with you. I also thank you for your loyalty and serving our country.

It is just that some of us are probably older and have noticed more.

I don't recall the exact moment that we found out who attacked us on 9/11 but I do recall we had foreign jets in our skies almost immediately afterwards. Not American jets. For some reason I never felt safe with our air sovereignty being given to foreigners for that period of time. I know I would have felt better to have our own Navy jets guarding our country.


90 posted on 02/04/2005 12:28:45 AM PST by texastoo (a "has-been" Republican)
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To: A Balrog of Morgoth

You won't be laughing when it starts effecting your life. Don't you find it odd that Mrs Heinz is funding some of the most radical US style terror groups in the country ? It's no secret on Capitol Hill. Isn't it odd that the ACLU gets funding from our own government ? The passion play is playing out right before our eyes.


91 posted on 02/04/2005 12:30:13 AM PST by John Lenin
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To: pbrown

Yes, I saw some of the news about the recent Imminent Domain case. I don't recall about the Law of the Sea Treaty, though.


92 posted on 02/04/2005 12:31:05 AM PST by familyop ("Let us try" sounds better, don't you think? "Essayons" is so...Latin.)
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To: farmfriend

It would not have become law without his signature, but the idea that he was the driving force behind it is a little inaccurate IMO.


93 posted on 02/04/2005 12:31:08 AM PST by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: Dat
Canada's first report to the United Nations Commission on Sustainable Development (UN CSD) describes past and current activities to implement Agenda 21, which was signed at the United Nations Conference on Environment and Development held in Rio de Janeiro in June 1992.

Sustainable Transportation, Prepared in connection with Canada's participation at the meeting of the United Nations Commission on Sustainable Development April 1997
94 posted on 02/04/2005 12:31:46 AM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: pbrown
It's the Propaganda book written about world domination by Jews and is believed to have ignited antisemitism which helped fuel the Holocaust.
What's so strange is that he mentioned the Protocols and I looked it up earlier today because I read something about it on WND and had never heard of it. What a weird coincidence.
95 posted on 02/04/2005 12:32:32 AM PST by Free2BeMe
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To: DoughtyOne

He campaigned on it. He pushed it whether you want to believe it or not.


96 posted on 02/04/2005 12:33:26 AM PST by farmfriend ( Congratulations. You are everything we've come to expect from years of government training.)
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To: texastoo

i've known about this for years.... i was called nuts 20+ yeras ago...

what's your opinion on W? do you think he is a Rockefeller Republican? i have a hard time believing he is.. have you read any of Dave Kopel? after Bush managed to stop the UN small arms confiscation i started thinking he was on our side. what do you think?


97 posted on 02/04/2005 12:35:56 AM PST by sdpatriot ("If I know the answer I'll tell you the answer, and if I don't, I'll just respond, cleverly." Rummy)
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To: DoughtyOne
The Sierra Nevada Mountain Range is one of the state's crown jewels. Yet, unlike many of California's other natural treasures, it has no conservancy. As Governor I will propose establishment of a Sierra Nevada Mountains Conservancy.

98 posted on 02/04/2005 12:37:15 AM PST by farmfriend ( Congratulations. You are everything we've come to expect from years of government training.)
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To: familyop
Oh my! The L.O.S.T. is a spoke in the wheel of the UN having control of over 70% of the earth's surface and natural resources. That is what L.O.S.T. is about....and here's the kicker, President Bush and Condi Rice agree with it. I think she spoke about it at her confirmation hearing last week. Go back into her transcripts of you can.

You really need to look into it. It's a mind-blower what America gives up to the UN.

99 posted on 02/04/2005 12:38:42 AM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: hedgetrimmer
Re: After about six months of reading...

It shows. Your posts and opinions are appreciated!
100 posted on 02/04/2005 12:39:46 AM PST by endthematrix (Declare 2005 as the year the battle for freedom from tax slavery!)
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