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Culpepper blindsided by erroneous reporting
Star Tribune ^ | February 4, 2005 | Kevin Seifert

Posted on 02/04/2005 11:51:22 AM PST by Libertarian4Bush

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To: Mr. Mojo
The MSM are scum and should be treated as the same. People should start investigating the bunch and report on them like they do the rest of the world,biased and negligently, Looking only for their faults. God,that sounds just like the Democrat Party!
41 posted on 02/04/2005 12:16:18 PM PST by gunnedah
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To: Libertarian4Bush

I'm sorry, but I'm confused. The only thing different I read in this follow-up story from what was originally reported yesterday was a different interpretation of the parents' attitude. Culpepper DID in fact, while cameras were rolling, walk over to a paralzed teen and put the necklace around his neck, correct? Everyone ooh-ed and aah-ed at the moment, thinking what a great guy he was to give such an expensive gift - only - He DID in fact, afterward, seek them out and take the necklace back, correct? Sorry, but that sucks! If you don't want someone to keep a necklace, DON'T GIVE THEM A NECKLACE on national TV and then take it back when no one is looking. Whether or not the kid or the parents were mad doesn't matter to me - if Culpepper was that sentimental about the necklace, then he could have kindly told the kid exactly that - the necklace was sentimental, and he couldn't part with it.

Culpepper acted like a compete schmuck, and deserved the bad press he got.

LL


42 posted on 02/04/2005 12:16:28 PM PST by Lonestar Libertarian
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To: BootsOnTheGround

Lets look at the other side as well. Most people outside of MN probably know nothing about Culpepper. He may be (and sounds like he is) an upstanding guy, etc. etc.

But you have to admit, the way it was portrayed does not sound implausible. Not only does it not sound implausible, but depending on the cross section you are viewing, sounds fairly likely.

This is, however the danger of grouping anyone in with a larger group when you have no knowlege of them personally. You can always be wrong, and as such, should always err in the side of restraint.


43 posted on 02/04/2005 12:18:50 PM PST by rlmorel
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To: Lonestar Libertarian

I'm not really seeing what this follow-up story changes either....just seems like another interpretation of the same event.


44 posted on 02/04/2005 12:21:51 PM PST by sam_whiskey (Peace through Strength)
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To: Libertarian4Bush

I stick to what I said about this guy.

Culpepper was asked for something of considerable value, in front of a large crowd. To please the crown, Culpepper gave the person the object of considerable value. For which, Culpepper received many accolades.

And then Culpepper asked for it back, in private.

In kindness, I'd say Culpepper mishandled it. Culpepper was thinking only of HIMSELF. He was not considerate of the young man's feelings.

My opinion is that Culpepper wanted to come across as a generous big shot -- when in reality he was not so generous -- he wanted the recognition without earning it.

Why can't you people get it? This is WRONG, WRONG, WRONG.

If he wants to be recognized as being generous -- he must first BE generous.

What's with you folks who continually take up for these over-paid jocks who behave badly in and out of public?


45 posted on 02/04/2005 12:25:01 PM PST by i_dont_chat (Remember this: Jesus loves you and Allah wants you DEAD!)
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To: Jokelahoma

I gotta kick over this can of worms. The reason Rush-lovers are so vulnerable to this angle of attack is that Limbaugh indeed made an ass of himself on the ESPN pre-game show. Does the media cheer-lead for black QB's? Yes. So what. Blacks were prevented from playing the position for decades because of white coach stereotyping. If you don't believe that, maybe you should be hanging out with Al Campanis.

I watched that day as Limbaugh issued his "challenge". I immediately thought his comments were intentionally designed to get the media's dander up. However, I had not seen the media cheerlead for McNabb anymore than they still do over Peyton Manning or the love affair they had this year with Drew Brees. Limbaugh's gig was stupid anyone, and he really stepped on his 'pepper' on the show. He's been whining about it ever since.

Sometimes he's quite entertaining, which is more than I can say about the narcisistic Hannity, but on that day he was a doofus.

Rush-lovers, have at it!


46 posted on 02/04/2005 12:26:29 PM PST by usafsk ((Know what you're talking about before you dance the QWERTY waltz))
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To: i_dont_chat; sam_whiskey; Lonestar Libertarian
Because the eye witness says,

"We were standing at Culpepper's side when the transaction took place. There was no animosity, no hurt feelings and no accusations of impropriety -- only thank-yous from Townsend, his parents and a doctor nearby."

If they aint offended, why are you?

47 posted on 02/04/2005 12:27:46 PM PST by wallcrawlr (www.bionicear.com)
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To: BootsOnTheGround

> People are allowed to spend their money on things they want to buy.

Your answer was a non sequitur. I did not ask why this guy was *allowed* to wear this necklace; I asked why he would *want* to. It's tacky and unwise and tacky.


48 posted on 02/04/2005 12:29:32 PM PST by orionblamblam
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To: Libertarian4Bush

Actually, I noted many posters who commented on the boorish behavior of the "fan".


49 posted on 02/04/2005 12:31:08 PM PST by AmishDude
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To: Libertarian4Bush
Yesterday there were plenty of folks bashing the kid and his parents as well...

Apologies all the way around may be in order, here.

50 posted on 02/04/2005 12:33:18 PM PST by Recovering Hermit
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To: i_dont_chat

Exactly. We often hear stories of very wealthy athletes, actors and entertainers who do nice things for people who've had injuries or cancer or whatever...Culpepper HAD to know that when he put the necklace on the kid, the kid and his family would interpret it as a gift. Whoever heard of "temporarily loaning" jewelery to an awe-struck, paralyzed kid in front of the national media only to demand it back when the cameras stopped rolling? I don't for a minute understand how anyone can defend Culpepper for this.


51 posted on 02/04/2005 12:34:24 PM PST by Lonestar Libertarian
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To: wallcrawlr

I reserve the right to be offended, any time I want to.

And what business it is of yours if I am offended?

Get over yourself.


52 posted on 02/04/2005 12:34:50 PM PST by i_dont_chat (Remember this: Jesus loves you and Allah wants you DEAD!)
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To: Libertarian4Bush

The media proved they are racist. They automatically assumed that since Culpepper is a black man that he did it. I bet they wouldn't have made the same mistake had it been Tom Brady.


53 posted on 02/04/2005 12:35:24 PM PST by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: irish guard

I hate the Vikes as much as anyone, but Culpepper is a good guy. I knew there had to be another side of the story when I first heard it.


54 posted on 02/04/2005 12:37:15 PM PST by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: wallcrawlr

I'm not offended, because I wasn't there - I'm just making an observation. The fact that the parents were or were not offended (I'm not sure which, because we have two different interpretations of the events - don't know which is correct)is irrelevant. The facts in evidence are that Culpepper gave a gift to a paralyzed teen, then took it away. No one seems to dispute this part. And to this, I say, THAT SUCKS. You don't give gifts to paralyzed teens and then take the gift away. Shame on Culpepper.


55 posted on 02/04/2005 12:39:53 PM PST by Lonestar Libertarian
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To: JeeperFreeper
Surely there is some way that a report can be done and printed on a reporter such as the AP reporter and others. Especially those sending "one view" reporting out of Iraq.

Hey, It is free speech and an opinion so one can say anything one wants to about any reporter. Naturally one can never revel his sources for the nasty wife beating and child molestation performed by these reporters.

Say did not that reporter in Iraq "Fisk?" get caught having set with female donkeys while naked female dogs watched?
56 posted on 02/04/2005 12:41:36 PM PST by Tannerone
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To: i_dont_chat
Get over myself?

Haha...havent heard that one in a while.


57 posted on 02/04/2005 12:42:48 PM PST by wallcrawlr (www.bionicear.com)
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To: Libertarian4Bush

Sounds like the reporter screwed it up (not that it would be the first time something like that happened...)


58 posted on 02/04/2005 12:44:34 PM PST by mhking (Do not mess with dragons, for thou art crunchy & good with ketchup...)
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Sounds like the reporter screwed it up (not that it would be the first time something like that happened...)

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59 posted on 02/04/2005 12:44:50 PM PST by mhking (Do not mess with dragons, for thou art crunchy & good with ketchup...)
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To: Lonestar Libertarian
The only gifts that were ever discussed were when,

"At Culpepper's request, Townsend's parents wrote down his address and contact information. Culpepper promised to send him gifts and memorabilia."

At no other time was there anything "gifted".

I'm not gonna let DC get ripped on. He's one of the few decent fellas we got on the team up here. Take a look at his background (everyone) and tell me he isnt a success story that "gets it".

60 posted on 02/04/2005 12:46:23 PM PST by wallcrawlr (www.bionicear.com)
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