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Proposition 200 and Mexico's War on Arizona
CHRONWATCH.COM ^ | FEBRUARY 5, 2005 | CHRISTOPHER ADAMO

Posted on 02/04/2005 8:52:37 PM PST by CHARLITE

By far the most dramatic menace to this nation’s future and safety emanates from the cauldrons of Islamist extremism. But Americans are also in danger of losing their country on another front. A far larger incursion into the American homeland is being carried out via its southern border. Though an ongoing problem for many years, its instigators now apparently believe they are ready to take their attack to the next level.

During a January 28 radio interview, Mexican Foreign Secretary Luis Ernesto Derbez has threatened the State of Arizona with legal action through the international courts in order to overturn Proposition 200, a ballot initiative lawfully passed last fall to curb state expenditures on illegal aliens.

Derbez plans to initially use the “legal capacities” of the United States to achieve his goal. But if that doesn’t work, he will resort to the intervention of “international tribunals.”

Momentarily sidestepping the absurdity of granting any legal capacity to an international organization regarding strictly internal issues, consider the larger picture of what is actually being attempted, as a foreign power now makes threats against an individual American State.

The Constitution, in its original form, was never designed to put the federal government in charge of regulating minute details in the lives of Americans. Basically, it had two purposes, which were to act as an arbiter between the individual states, and to collectively represent those states in the face of foreign challenges, whether diplomatic or military.

Yet the federal leviathan, which grew monstrously beyond its original boundaries, has become an overwhelming burden of bureaucratic entanglements to the citizenry. Meanwhile the Mexican government, a foreign entity, seeks to intimidate and ultimately dictate the policies of an individual American State.

Thus far, it has done so with little or no official backlash from the United States. So just as those in government are increasingly ignoring the Constitutional limitations to their authority, so are legitimate Constitutional responsibilities to protect the people from foreign incursion being abandoned, and American citizens being left defenseless.

Prior to the recent Iraqi elections, it became apparent that foreign insurgents were causing much of the disorder and mayhem plaguing that country. Thus the major thrust of American and Iraqi military action focused on securing that nation’s borders.

Yet when a similar incursion threatens to undermine the security and sovereignty of the United States, this country’s government sees fit to respond with indifference and platitudes.

Of course, Derbez is hardly acting alone. Mexican President Vicente Fox has long rejected the term “illegal alien,” claiming instead that the invaders are “undocumented workers,” and thus displaying a total disregard for American law.

Fox has been unrestrained in his contempt for the very concept of American sovereignty, promoting the concept of “dual citizenship” whereby Mexican immigrants would conceivably be eligible to vote in both countries.

Increasingly, his long-term goal appears to be an effort to transform the Southwestern United States into a Mexican “Sudetenland,” which was the heavily Germanic region of Czechoslovakia that Hitler exploited as an excuse to invade and occupy that country.

Though nobody is suggesting a full-scale invasion by Fox’s armies, he increasingly seeks to dictate and define laws and regulations on this side of the border, so as to maximize his ability to siphon and bleed as much as possible back into his own nation’s economy.

A proper response to such audacity would be to warn Fox that America is just as likely to bend under his diplomatic pressure as it would from the terrorist acts of al Qaeda. Unfortunately, President Bush has already given far too much ground, even embracing the term “undocumented worker,” and advocating amnesty for those who have flouted U.S. law to enter the country.

Such a stance completely ignores the degradation to American society that results from the mass influx of illegals. Among Arizona’s Hispanic population, forty percent supported Proposition 200. Clearly, these citizens realize that they have every bit the vested interest in the future of America as does the rest of its population, and comprehend the threat posed to it by the unrestricted invasion of illegals.

It is altogether an abomination of Constitutional principles that Arizona should be left on its own, fighting to maintain control of its destiny. If Arizona can be isolated and pressured in such a manner, what other state, anywhere in the nation can consider itself safe? Indeed, the situation ominously suggests that a sovereign American nation may no longer exist.

About the Writer: Christopher Adamo is a freelance writer from southeastern Wyoming, where he has been involved in grassroots political activites for several years. He maintains a website at
http://www.chrisadamo.com.
Christopher receives e-mail at
adamo.chronwatch@lycos.com.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; america; arizona; ballotinitiative; derbez; expenditures; foreignminister; illegalaliens; immigration; internationalcourts; islamofascist; legalaction; luisernesto; mexico; prop200; proposition200; southernborder; sovereignty; state; terrorists; unitedstatesofmexico; vulnerability
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To: konaice

He'll find friendly liberal judges to shop it to in other words, but it will ptobably end up in international courts.


61 posted on 02/05/2005 12:18:45 AM PST by GeronL (2-7-72 is my birthday, in lieu of gifts, just send me cash)
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To: tophat9000
What it will do is cost the party in 2006 and 2008

Its time for you to decide if you want a Country or a Party...

62 posted on 02/05/2005 12:19:30 AM PST by konaice
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To: bayourod
Did you join FR just before the election simply to bash Bush?

Did you join after the First election of Pres. Bush, just to carry his water? Blackbird.

63 posted on 02/05/2005 3:17:42 AM PST by BlackbirdSST
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To: RetroWarrior; konaice
"International courts have no jurisdiction in the US;

Whether we like it or not, whether we choose to believe it or not..... I think the point of this article is that we could be in danger of this statement changing, and in fact it already has in roundabout ways.

The statement that "International courts have no jurisdiction in the US" is still 99% true, but if we're not careful and if certain "globalist" politicians in both parties are not controlled, this is in the process of being eroded.

64 posted on 02/05/2005 7:18:59 AM PST by Lloyd227 (American Forces armed with what? Spit balls?)
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To: hedgetrimmer
Yes, he has Fast Track authority, which Congress refused to renew for President Clinton in 1994 (rather partisan politics IMHO.)

That doesn't mean the the President can unilaterally sign trade agreements, they still must be approved by Congress. To give the President full trade authority, Article 1, section 8 of the US Constitution would have to be amended.

http://internationalecon.com/v1.0/ch20/20c020.html

I'm not sure anyone wants to give the presidency that much power, myself included.
65 posted on 02/05/2005 7:45:56 AM PST by RetroWarrior ("We count it death to falter, not to die")
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To: itsmyboy; bayourod

You have to remember.

Bayourod is the consistent cheap labor, pro-illegal voice on this board. There are people who profit from rampant lawbreaking and are all too willing to dump the price of their cheap labor on the taxpayer.


66 posted on 02/05/2005 7:49:12 AM PST by Sam the Sham
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To: RetroWarrior

"And if NAFTA was such a bad idea, why didn't Former President Clinton veto it?"

Because the Party of Money wanted it and Clinton was willing to betray his own base for their money.


67 posted on 02/05/2005 7:52:51 AM PST by Sam the Sham
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To: tophat9000

That's what I meant. It will split the GOP wide open and leave an openning for a Perot economic nationalist third party if whoever wins the GOP nomination continues Bush policy.


68 posted on 02/05/2005 7:54:37 AM PST by Sam the Sham
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To: CHARLITE

I wonder if this is just posturing by Derbez since no legal challenge have actually been made. Can a Mexican government actually make legal challenges in US courts?


69 posted on 02/05/2005 7:58:26 AM PST by RetroWarrior ("We count it death to falter, not to die")
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To: Sam the Sham; All

Nuetral? The administration just okay'd several million to Mexico the help them find who has been killing 400plus women in their country. But not a word to the families (except,it's Mexico, we can't help you) of 27 AMERICANS who have disappeared over the border in 90 days.


Four Blocks to Freedom

There is a 28 year old American named Yvette Martinez who has "disappeared" in Nuevo Loredo along with 27+ other US Citizens in the past few months. After a month of the Mexican law doing nothing and the US law saying "we can do nothing-Mexico runs their own country", her father started investigating by himself, along with some news people. She and her friend were traced to an intersection where they called a friend in the States. They could see the American Flag across the border. Four blocks away.

The Mexican mayor says, "It's safe here!" The police would not help. Finally Yvette's father found her car. It was in a storage lot used by the police. They refuse to talk. The US tells him, it's not their place to question Mexico. I don’t see any of the OBL shedding any tears for her heartbroken mother and father because they are “hispanic”. This is all about dirty money,from the corruption in Mexico, the drugs, the refusal to enforce existing law to the “willing worker program”.


70 posted on 02/05/2005 8:44:44 AM PST by AuntB (Every person who enters the U.S. illegally--from anywhere--increases the likelihood of another 9/11)
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To: RetroWarrior

"Get your facts straight."

She never said it wasn't voted in with Clinton in office. Pres. Bush 1 pushed it. Clinton campaigned against NAFTA, one thing that got him elected. Of course he lied..surprise.


71 posted on 02/05/2005 8:48:14 AM PST by AuntB (Every person who enters the U.S. illegally--from anywhere--increases the likelihood of another 9/11)
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To: AuntB

If you read her post, she was laying the blame solely on Bush. I'm trying to point out that the blame needs to be spread out.


72 posted on 02/05/2005 8:52:20 AM PST by RetroWarrior ("We count it death to falter, not to die")
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To: RetroWarrior

You're right about one thing, there's plenty of blame to go around.


73 posted on 02/05/2005 8:57:06 AM PST by AuntB (Every person who enters the U.S. illegally--from anywhere--increases the likelihood of another 9/11)
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To: CHARLITE

Viva Amexica!

74 posted on 02/05/2005 9:06:02 AM PST by spodefly (Yo, homey ... Is that my briefcase?)
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To: konaice
Its time for you to decide if you want a Country or a Party...

I'm on record as wanting what best for the country...I am not a "party whore" ....

I much as I like Bush on many issues, and disagree with him on some but can live with it... he's dead wrong on the illegals

In fact I would say it will become the dominate issue now as the Bush illegals position is way out of whack with the vast majority of the party base

If that party is torn apart on this issue then it's on the head of the people on the Bush illegals position side... they are in the minority position both in the party and in the overall country...

75 posted on 02/05/2005 10:06:49 AM PST by tophat9000 (We didn’t rise they sunk look at the blue, water filled, sink holes map (Mike Moore Fatass divots ?)
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To: tophat9000
Let me add not only is the Bush illegals position in the minority position both in the party and in the overall country...It is also flat out wrong...and not what's best for the country both short and long term...(minority positions can be noble when that are for what's best and right...the Bush illegals position is NOT one of them)
76 posted on 02/05/2005 10:19:29 AM PST by tophat9000 (We didn’t rise they sunk look at the blue, water filled, sink holes map (Mike Moore Fatass divots ?)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68
(((A hushed snicker filters through the crowd)))
77 posted on 02/05/2005 5:45:13 PM PST by ThreePuttinDude (Plumbers for Bush....We flushed the Johns)
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