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Fly Eagles Fly - The Plight of a Philadelphia Sports Fan
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Posted on 02/05/2005 8:52:10 AM PST by crushkerry

As regular readers know I am a die-hard and long suffering Eagles fan. As such, I am conditioned to expect the worst from any Philadelphia team. The scars are deep and longstanding. Any Philadelphia fan knows the names of their tormenters by heart - as if they were names contained in the Lord's Prayer - Joe Carter, Manny Mota, Jim Plunkett, Rod Martin, Ronde Barber, Ricky Manning, Jr., the "Fog Bowl", Magic Johnson, Kareem, Larry Bird, Scott Stevens, Bob Nystrom, Martin St. Louis.

Heartbreak and disappointment are ways of life for the Philadelphia sports fans - the most loyal, passionate and knowledgeable in the country. (Please no stupid, ignorant cracks about throwing snowballs at Santa Claus) Yet every year we keep coming back for more, even more passionate and hungry than the year before.

Thus, it is with a sense of excitement, nervousness, trepidation and anxiety that we diehards await this Sunday's Super Bowl against Hynes favorite team - those jabroni's from the place that brought us John Kerry and Michael Dukakis.

Want to know what an Eagles fan is going through right now?

I'm feeling something that no Philadelphia fan should ever feel - hope. Why after all the years of pain, torment and proverbial kicks in the groin should I be feeling this way? I don't know, I just do. Why is it that we Philadelphia fans allow ourselves to dream about the possibility of success when we've had so very little of it throughout the years? Again, I don't know, we just do.

I wish the game were today. Right now. Strap it up. Let's get it going. But there's also the fear of actually playing the game because we've seen how it ends so many times before.

We're all reveling now in the possibility that we can call ourselves "Champions", but will that be reality come Sunday night at 10pm? Do we dare allow ourselves to dream of the possibility of a parade down Broad Street come Tuesday which will like a championship parade no one has ever seen? Trust me, Philadelphia is the equivalent of a long dormant volcano - filled with fire and passion just waiting to explode for the world to see - if the fates would just give us that chance.

So many times. So many times we have been brought to the edge of euphoria only to have it ripped away from us - along with a piece of our heart. But yet somehow, someway, the heart keeps ticking, despite having chunks of it violently torn away with each passing year and each unique catastrophe that manages to befall us.

This may sound presumptions and arrogant, likely because it is. We deserve this win. We deserve it more than any fans in the country. We deserve this 10 times over for having suffered endlessly year after year with nothing in return but a slap in the face from whatever God dispenses fate on sports fans.

Yet every year we keep coming back, literally willing our teams to bring a title home for us, to reward us. George Santayana once said "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result".

Well that's us. Insane. Passionate. Hungry.

Someone asked me in October 2004 whether or not I would rather have George Bush win the Presidency or have the Eagles win the Super Bowl. I couldn't answer. Even though I knew John Kerry would be a disaster to the security of me, my family, and my fellow countrymen. Buy I couldn't answer that I'd rather see a Bush win. I reasoned that Kerry could give me ogida for 4 years and be gone, while the Eagles have broken my heart for the 34 years I've been on the Earth. Trust me, any true Philly fan wouldn't be able to answer that question, no matter who they supported for President.

So to the Eagles I say this - millions and millions of people have your back. If we could all put on helmets and shoulder pads and help we would do it in a heartbeat. Sadly we can't. But know this - the hopes and dreams of an entire city and fan base rest on your shoulders. Win and you will be heroes forever. Never will you have to buy a meal or drink again. People will name their kids after you. Lose and.... well that's just too disappointing to think about. Been there, done that, bought the T-shirt.

So guys, do it for us - the long suffering Philly fans, starved for a taste of glory who are ready to embrace you forever. 60 minutes guys, 60 minutes. That's all it will take to throw a monkey off our backs that dwarfs King Kong. We want a win. No, we NEED a win.

All of this is my heart talking. What does my head say about who will win? Don't know. Philly fans lead with their hearts, even at the risk of having it ripped out just like it has so many times before.

But I have the feeling I'm going to a Championship Parade in Philly this Tuesday.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: batterychunkers; foulmouth; injurycheering; lazyuniongoons; philthadelphia; santabooers; thugs; trashtalkingcowards; vile; weshotsanta
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1 posted on 02/05/2005 8:52:11 AM PST by crushkerry
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To: Grampa Dave; LincolnLover; jmstein7; backinthefold; .cnI redruM; OXENinFLA; Badeye; K1avg; ...

Ping


2 posted on 02/05/2005 8:52:49 AM PST by crushkerry (Visit www.crushkerry.com to see John Kerry's positions filleted))
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To: crushkerry; MeekOneGOP
It should be Fry Eagles Fry!
3 posted on 02/05/2005 8:55:48 AM PST by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Andrew Heyward's got to go!)
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To: crushkerry

Bookmarked, I feel the same way!


4 posted on 02/05/2005 8:56:03 AM PST by hipaatwo (Go Eagles!!!!)
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To: Owl_Eagle

Ping!


5 posted on 02/05/2005 8:56:54 AM PST by hipaatwo (Go Eagles!!!!)
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To: crushkerry
How does the score 27 - 10 grab you? (SB XV)

Expect to be on the losing end of a similar score tomorrow.

6 posted on 02/05/2005 8:57:12 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: crushkerry
Buy I couldn't answer that I'd rather see a Bush win.

You and I are from different planets.

It's a game, my friend, for rich owners and players.

7 posted on 02/05/2005 8:57:43 AM PST by leadpenny
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To: crushkerry
(Please no stupid, ignorant cracks about throwing snowballs at Santa Claus)

Oooh, oooh, what about Michael Irvin, or the jailhouse in the stadium? Or the batteries? Oh, so many batteries...

8 posted on 02/05/2005 8:59:10 AM PST by AmishDude
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To: leadpenny

You're not from Philly are you? Then, like my wife, I don't expect you to understand. She says the same thing - "It's just a game". Not to us it isn't. That may seem crazy to some of you, because it is. But we can't help it. It's in our blood, passed down from generation to generation.


9 posted on 02/05/2005 8:59:10 AM PST by crushkerry (Visit www.crushkerry.com to see John Kerry's positions filleted))
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To: crushkerry
Hey, you will always have the Broad Street Bullies! I hated those guys!
 
Go Patriots!
 
 
http://www.philadelphiaflyers.com/pressbox/archive/1854.asp

10 posted on 02/05/2005 8:59:55 AM PST by Radix (Oh look, Mrs McNabb, Mrs McNabb! The Patriots are coming to the Super Bowl.)
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To: crushkerry

Boy, there's going to be a lot of hurt feelings in Philadelphia tomorrow night.


11 posted on 02/05/2005 8:59:57 AM PST by Shortwave (Supporting Bush was a duty one owed to the fallen. Now, it is an honor.)
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To: Nightshift

ping


12 posted on 02/05/2005 8:59:57 AM PST by tutstar ( <{{--->< http://ripe4change.4-all.org Violations of Florida Statutes ongoing!)
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To: AmishDude

True enough. But JD Drew didn't want to play for us, so screw him. He didn't get hit with any. The Michael Irvin thing was pretty bad, I'll admit, no excuse for that.


13 posted on 02/05/2005 8:59:58 AM PST by crushkerry (Visit www.crushkerry.com to see John Kerry's positions filleted))
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To: crushkerry
Here's one Cowboy fan hoping that suffer immense pain tomorrow night.

I'm not rooting for the Patriots. I'm rooting against your Iggles.

And before you chastise me for my evil attitude, tell me who you were rooting for in Super Bowls the Cowboys were in during the 1990s.

14 posted on 02/05/2005 9:00:40 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: crushkerry
I think that the Eagles have had an easy time of it in the less-competitive NFC this year. Tomorrow's game is a real test of whether they are a championship team or not. If they can beat Belichick and the Patriots, they will have earned my respect.

As a Patriots fan, I find myself strangely indifferent about the outcome. With two Super Bowl championships over the past three years and the World Series championship last year here in Boston, I am spoiled beyond belief. So if the Eagles win tomorrow, I'll be happy for them. (Don't think it's going to happen though.)

15 posted on 02/05/2005 9:02:10 AM PST by SamAdams76 (Suicide Bombing is a Dying Profession)
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To: Dog Gone
I'm not rooting for the Patriots. I'm rooting against your Iggles.

That's OK, Dog. Whether the Eagles win or lose, you're still stuck with Jerry Jones next year.

16 posted on 02/05/2005 9:02:31 AM PST by dirtboy (Tagloin down for oil change and lube because it was squeaking)
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To: Radix

Sadly though, those guys are losing teeth now because of age, rather than fights. My first memories of life are seeing my street erupt in celebration on the Sunday afternoon that the Flyers won the Cup. I still have a picture w/ the Stanley Cup - they brought it to a Dept. store for fans to take pics w/ it. I also still have a jersey bought at that parade. Even at 4 I knew all the names and numbers of the bullies.

But that's the problem, it's been way too long. Yeah, we had the Phillies in 80, and the Sixers in 83, but damn man, that's 22 years - 88 seasons. We need this.


17 posted on 02/05/2005 9:03:24 AM PST by crushkerry (Visit www.crushkerry.com to see John Kerry's positions filleted))
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To: crushkerry
The Michael Irvin thing was pretty bad, I'll admit, no excuse for that.

Anyone remember which fans threw pork chops at Buddy Ryan? Dallas? Earlier in the week, Ryan almost choked to death on a pork chop.

18 posted on 02/05/2005 9:03:29 AM PST by Go Gordon
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To: crushkerry

Well, so what? Long-suffering? It isn't like the Pats have been winning every year since th ebeginning, either. Up until a few years ago, I was a long-suffering Pats fan - they made the Super Bowl a few times and promptly got their butts handed to them. It was that way my whole life... until recently.

So, just be happy you made it this far, and if you win, great. If not, just be content in knowing that you made it this far, and that eventually you'll win it all. Just not this year ;0)


19 posted on 02/05/2005 9:03:58 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Celibacy is a hands-on job.)
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To: Dog Gone

I wouldn't expect you to root for the Eagles. If you did you wouldn't be a true Cowboys fan. In fact, I'd be disappointed if you were to root for the Birds, as it goes against all your principles.


20 posted on 02/05/2005 9:04:21 AM PST by crushkerry (Visit www.crushkerry.com to see John Kerry's positions filleted))
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To: crushkerry
But that's the problem, it's been way too long. Yeah, we had the Phillies in 80, and the Sixers in 83, but damn man, that's 22 years - 88 seasons.

Its the curse of Billy Penn

21 posted on 02/05/2005 9:04:49 AM PST by Go Gordon
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To: Chad Fairbanks

Yeah, but you all had the Celtics in the 80's, as well as teh Celts dynasty in the 60's. The Sox won it this year (perhaps the only thing close to the Eagles fans disappointment).


22 posted on 02/05/2005 9:05:44 AM PST by crushkerry (Visit www.crushkerry.com to see John Kerry's positions filleted))
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To: crushkerry

Well, for your sake I'm hoping for an Eagles win. I may even watch some of it if there isn't something good on TCM.


23 posted on 02/05/2005 9:06:27 AM PST by leadpenny
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To: crushkerry
The Sox won it this year (perhaps the only thing close to the Eagles fans disappointment).

You might want to talk to Cubs fans

24 posted on 02/05/2005 9:06:41 AM PST by Go Gordon
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To: dirtboy

Yeah, but at least they have 3 SB Trophies from JJ. God, what I'd do just for one. Someone asked if I'd give up a body part. I said I'd give half of my pinky finger, and I think I would.


25 posted on 02/05/2005 9:06:58 AM PST by crushkerry (Visit www.crushkerry.com to see John Kerry's positions filleted))
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To: crushkerry

1 entry found for jabroni.
Main Entry: jabroni
Part of Speech: noun
Definition: in professional wrestling, a wrestler who loses in order to make another wrestler look good; also called jobber
Usage: slang


26 posted on 02/05/2005 9:08:22 AM PST by Crawdad (The following statement is false. The preceding statement is true.)
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To: crushkerry

Yeah, we had the Celts in the 80s to tide us over, but still, I was never really into basketball much. Football and baseball were my faves, and I never got to see a championship team in either until recent years.

The Pats became the Patriots the year I was born, and my whole life, until I was 30, they never won the Super Bowl, so that's 30 years of not winning. At least the Eagles had actually won NFL League Titles in the past - the Pats never had...


27 posted on 02/05/2005 9:08:43 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Celibacy is a hands-on job.)
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To: Go Gordon

Yeah, but they've had the Bulls dynasty and a Bears Super Bowl win in 85. So they get no sympathy from me.

Do you understand just how desparate we are for a champion in Philly?


28 posted on 02/05/2005 9:09:04 AM PST by crushkerry (Visit www.crushkerry.com to see John Kerry's positions filleted))
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To: crushkerry
Yeah, but at least they have 3 SB Trophies from JJ

Yeah, Jimmy Johnson, not Jerry Jones. Barry Switzer won with Johnsons's team.

Jones will keep the Cowboys roaming in the wilderness for some time.

29 posted on 02/05/2005 9:09:08 AM PST by dirtboy (Tagloin down for oil change and lube because it was squeaking)
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To: crushkerry
Do you understand just how desparate we are for a champion in Philly?

No, but ask me that question again on Monday orning when I'm feeling giddy.

30 posted on 02/05/2005 9:10:14 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Celibacy is a hands-on job.)
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To: dirtboy

I happen to like Jones as an owner, so there's no misery in that for me.


31 posted on 02/05/2005 9:10:56 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: crushkerry

I am from Philly and I agree with your wife. The hoopla over this is way overblown and nauseating. I hope they lose or there will be no end to it.


32 posted on 02/05/2005 9:11:18 AM PST by TAdams8591 (The call you make may be the one that saves Terri's life!!!!!!)
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To: Crawdad

I heard the word jabroni on the streets long before that. A jabroni is really a slang term for a jacka$$, or someone you really don't like. The Pats fit that bill this week, even though I love watching them play, a great team, good D, well coached, classy, and everything done the right way. But these 2 weeks I have to hate them. It's the code.


33 posted on 02/05/2005 9:11:32 AM PST by crushkerry (Visit www.crushkerry.com to see John Kerry's positions filleted))
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To: AmishDude; hipaatwo; crushkerry
You seem to have some sort of learning disability.

It's been explained to you that:

1. Michael Irvin was not booed, that was Dieon Sanders and his healing "chicken dance". Irvin was given an ovation as he was taken off the field. I was there, but you have foggy recollections of what ESPN told you.

2. 90% of those arrested at the Stadium were visiting fans who bought into the "anything goes in Philly" mentality that you have. Once the word got out to people exactly like you, the arrests plummeted, and the court (it was actually a court, but don't let facts get in the way, right?) closed.

3. "The Batteries" were thrown at a Broncos Chiefs game and a Red Sox Yankees game. Eagles fans do travel, you're right in that respect, but there's a pattern that you're missing- we travel to EAGLES games. Since only two teams at a time can play football, and the Red Sox and Yankees play BASEBALL, it's not that likely that Eagles fans were to blame.

As has been exposed time and again, you've never been to Philadelphia ("I ate at Ginos"), much less an Eagles game.

Go ahead and hate Philadelphia, but don't pretend to know anything about it.
34 posted on 02/05/2005 9:12:43 AM PST by South Hawthorne (Guest Worker Program = Amnesty)
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To: Chad Fairbanks

Oh, so you're coming down to Philly. See ya there. But don't wear your Pats jersey. You might get killed.


35 posted on 02/05/2005 9:12:47 AM PST by crushkerry (Visit www.crushkerry.com to see John Kerry's positions filleted))
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To: crushkerry

Wow. I might get killed for wearing a Pats jersey? What a nice city you must live in ;0)


36 posted on 02/05/2005 9:14:31 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Celibacy is a hands-on job.)
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To: crushkerry
Do you understand just how desparate we are for a champion in Philly?

Yes, I live across the river. I'll give the fans credit, they keep coming back for more - no matter which team breaks their heart. Fog bowl, Kenny Linseman offside, Joe Carter and the Wild Thing, Rod Martin's 3 picks, Jim Plunkett, Ricky Manning Jr's 3 picks, Joe Juravicious (sp?), and last but not least, the Phillies blowing a 5 game lead with 6 games left in the season.

37 posted on 02/05/2005 9:14:56 AM PST by Go Gordon
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To: Owl_Eagle

Yo, man hold on I'm on your side. I was at that Michael Irvin game, they were cheerin his injury at first, then yes, they booed Deion's idiocy.

As to the people arrested the ones I've seen were drunken Eagles fans, as well as some others. Some were downright hilarious. Plus, there's no more stadium court.

You're right about Eagles fans. Apparently there are about 40,000 in Jacksonville (they're calling it "Phillyville"). God how I wish I was 40,001, but I was at the Falcons game, something I'll never forget. And yes, Eagles fans travel like crazy. Many an away game you could hear the "DUUUUCCCE" chant every year before this year. there were about 20,000 at the Bears game this year.

A more passionate and knowledgable bunch of fans you will never find. I won't be able to sleep tonight.


38 posted on 02/05/2005 9:16:46 AM PST by crushkerry (Visit www.crushkerry.com to see John Kerry's positions filleted))
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To: leadpenny
It's a game, my friend, for rich owners and players."

Agreed. Sadly that's what its become. And for far too many fans, its a religion.

39 posted on 02/05/2005 9:16:55 AM PST by TAdams8591 (The call you make may be the one that saves Terri's life!!!!!!)
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To: Go Gordon

Yeah, I was at the Tampa game where Juevicious blew by Gardner and Blaine Bishop. That was horrid.

As to the PHils it was in 64. They blew a 6 1/2 game lead w/ 12 to play. My dad still talks about it. In fact when Joe Carter hit the dinger in the 93 WS I ran up to my dad, who had fell asleep. I told him what happened and he wakes from a dead sleep to say:

"What do you expect, they blew a 6 1/2 game lead with 12 to play in 1964". then when right back to sleep. That's how scarred he is.


40 posted on 02/05/2005 9:19:41 AM PST by crushkerry (Visit www.crushkerry.com to see John Kerry's positions filleted))
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To: Chad Fairbanks

Not killed, but a few limbs broken. Actually if the Eagels win and you come w/ a Pats jersey you should be OK, because people will be so happy. They'll probably buy you a beer or two.


41 posted on 02/05/2005 9:20:32 AM PST by crushkerry (Visit www.crushkerry.com to see John Kerry's positions filleted))
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To: Owl_Eagle
Irvin was given an ovation as he was taken off the field.

I was watching it live on TV. Perhaps some fans were being gracious, but most weren't. I've never seen or heard anything like it before or since.

42 posted on 02/05/2005 9:21:40 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: TAdams8591

Spoilsport. You either have the passion in your blood or you don't. In fact, an Eagles win is probably the only thing that can bring so may different people together to be happy. No divisions of political class, race, age, sex, income. The celebration would be the feel good story of the century in these parts.


43 posted on 02/05/2005 9:21:57 AM PST by crushkerry (Visit www.crushkerry.com to see John Kerry's positions filleted))
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To: Owl_Eagle
1. Michael Irvin was not booed,

I saw the game. The fans cheered the fact that Irvin was hurt

2. 90% of those arrested at the Stadium were visiting fans

Bullcrap, the vast majority of visitors to Judge McShamus' (sp?) under Vet courtroom were Eagles fans. The monday after the worst of the worst were identified by name and town, name and town, name and town.

3. "The Batteries" were thrown at a Broncos Chiefs game and a Red Sox Yankees game.

Dude, regardless of what may have happened elsewhere, it is a fact that JD Drew had batteries thrown at him from the upper deck of the VET.

Go ahead and hate Philadelphia, but don't pretend to know anything about it.

It has nothing to do with hating Philly. But having Philly fans trying to re-write history gets old. Not all the fans are jerks, but you can't cover up what used to go on in the 700 level of the VET.

44 posted on 02/05/2005 9:22:49 AM PST by Go Gordon
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To: crushkerry

Gracious in winning, violent in defeat? Not a city I'd like to visit LOL... It's nice living in Seattle, I've noticed, because most people here are fans of teams from other places LOL...


45 posted on 02/05/2005 9:23:33 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Celibacy is a hands-on job.)
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To: crushkerry

All of you suckers are going to be eating crow when the Eagles trounce their asses! Go Philly!


46 posted on 02/05/2005 9:23:34 AM PST by Jaysun (Nefarious deeds for hire.)
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To: crushkerry
Of course I'd love to be on hand for the parade, it will have been a long time in coming if this is the year.

I'm no hater though, unlike, unfortunately too many Pats fans on this board.

The Pats are a fantastic team, as has been proven time and again. Bellicheck is a fantastic coach, the team plays the game exactly as it should, and they do it as a team, largely without superstars.

If we lose to a team like that, we were beaten by a better team.

I'd say if the Eagles and Pats played 5 games, the Eagles would win 2. I'm just hoping tomorrow will be one of those two.
47 posted on 02/05/2005 9:23:47 AM PST by South Hawthorne (Guest Worker Program = Amnesty)
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To: Dog Gone

At first the fans were cheering him staying down(you have to understand how much people hated Irvin, who was a drugged up thug then) because it looked like Michael Zordich drilled him (he didn't). Then people saw how serious it was and got silent. Then Deion started his foolishness and people booed. When Irvin went off on a stetcher there was cheering when people knew how serious it was.


48 posted on 02/05/2005 9:23:56 AM PST by crushkerry (Visit www.crushkerry.com to see John Kerry's positions filleted))
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To: crushkerry
The celebration would be the feel good story of the century in these parts.

So, has the Roundhouse come up with a plan yet to deal with the celebration if the Eagles win? ;0)

49 posted on 02/05/2005 9:24:43 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Celibacy is a hands-on job.)
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To: Owl_Eagle

Amen brother. It's hard to hate the Pats. They're everythign that's right about football, but this week they're the hated enemy, and will be treated as such. See ya Tuesday on Broad St.


50 posted on 02/05/2005 9:24:51 AM PST by crushkerry (Visit www.crushkerry.com to see John Kerry's positions filleted))
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