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More gay cartoon characters revealed!
salon.com ^ | 2/05/05 | Liz Larocca

Posted on 02/05/2005 7:44:02 PM PST by raccoonradio

Crazed right-wing moralists, take note: Before SpongeBob, there was Snagglepuss ... and Huckleberry Hound ... and even Popeye.

Recent events in the world of animated children's shows have caused people to question whether the cartoon industry is promoting a homosexual agenda. Allegations have been directed at SpongeBob SquarePants for participating in a pro-gay video, and at Buster the Bunny for his fraternization with a lesbian couple and their children. While some have dismissed these allegations as the rantings of ultraconservative Christians, gay cartoon characters do in fact exist, and some of them are even politically active. I recently asked some of them to share their stories.

Sitting in the living room of his well-appointed Cape Cod-style home, a cultural icon recalls his heyday with sadness and regret. "I was in constant fear of being found out," says Popeye, sipping herbal tea. "I thought once I cast Olive Oyl, everyone would know. She was so tall and lanky, with that boyish figure ..."

He trails off, shaking his head. "If you want to know the truth, I picked her because she reminded me of someone." He smiles and looks wistful. "Ensign Robert Flynn. Some of my fondest memories of the Navy revolve around him."

Popeye the Sailor Man, the animated embodiment of testosterone, lived in terror of being outed, as it would have ended his lucrative career. "Bluto threatened me with that a couple of times," he confesses. "I always wondered about him, though. He was so hypermasculine, always swaggering around like he had something to prove." He sighs and leans back against the antique sofa. "Maybe I'm just projecting, though. I did a fair amount of macho posturing myself."

First making the scene in 1929 as a bit player in a comic strip, Popeye became an immediate success. The series was finally renamed for him, and movies followed. In the '30s, Popeye's films were even more popular than Mickey Mouse's.

"Even though we were rivals, Mickey was one of the few people who were nice to me after learning I was gay," Popeye says.

"You know, people don't realize how different it was back then," he continues. "It wasn't like today, where only a few religious nuts get upset and boycott your work. My whole life would've been ruined if I'd come out. I had no choice."

Popeye stops and stares at the floor for a moment. "But still," he almost whispers, "every time I said 'I yam what I yam,' I felt like a fraud."

Reluctant to say more, Popeye tells me to check out the Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender Cartoon Alliance. He says the group helped him immensely when he finally decided to come out as gay after being brutally caricatured on-screen by Robin Williams.

Three days later, I'm in the parlor of a lovely San Francisco townhouse, being entertained by a self-described "proud queer, an old queen, ev-en!"

"I can't believe America didn't know," says Snagglepuss. "I mean, the cuff links, the flamboyance, the theater jargon -- plus, I'm pink, for heaven's sake!"

"I think it's terrific what SpongeBob is doing," he declares as he accepts a white wine spritzer from longtime companion Huckleberry Hound. "I've heard rumors about Squidward, too." Snagglepuss looks at his partner. "Two out and proud gays on one show, wouldn't that be fabulous?!"

The more reserved Huckleberry shakes his head. "I just wish it wasn't such a big deal. It would be nice if they'd leave his private life out of it and just allow him to be the amorphous asexual blob that he was drawn to be."

"I had a much different Hollywood experience than Puss," he continues. "The producers were looking for someone to host a show, to be a major player. They didn't care that I was gay, but this was 1959, and they didn't want any speculation about me." He sits down on the end of the chaise longue and puts his hand on Snagglepuss' leg. "They liked my look, but I sounded very effeminate."

"Luckily, he could do wonderful impressions," Snagglepuss chimes in. "They just fell in love with his Andy Griffith!" Snagglepuss grins. "Guess how we met. I was a guest on his show and then got my own segment. It was love at first sight."

"We were well known among industry players after that," Huckleberry says, looking sheepish. "I'm a homebody, but Puss always wanted to be out at all the parties."

His sociability proved fortuitous. Snagglepuss and Huckleberry soon became confidants of other prominent cartoon characters struggling with their homosexuality. And what started as an informal support group slowly morphed into a political action network.

"During the mid-'70s, the public became more aware of just how many celebrities were gay," explains Snagglepuss, turning serious. "Well, that included us, and people began speculating about cartoons the same way they did about human actors."

"The ironic thing is, they were wrong about one of the first gay icons," he adds. "There was always a lot of talk about Velma, but she's strictly hetero."

"That's true," agrees Huckleberry. "And a militant feminist. She carried around a dog-eared copy of 'The Second Sex' and refused to dumb herself down for the cameras. That's how the rumor got started."

"Even we believed it," Snagglepuss admits. "But then Daphne, who's actually bi, told me that she'd tried to get Velma to 'experiment' a couple times, but she wasn't interested. Velma's always been supportive of our cause."

"Everyone including Scooby-Doo has been supportive," he continues. "I guess once ... apparently, Fred and Shaggy both had a lot of Scooby snacks, and, well, one thing led to another ..."

"Let's just say it changed their perspectives," concludes Huckleberry. He looks at Snagglepuss. "We can leave it at that."

Asked which characters are members of the LGBT Cartoon Alliance, Snagglepuss runs off some names: Jabberjaw, Auggie Doggie, Mr. Slate of "The Flintstones," Elmer Fudd, Pepé Le Pew ("He's what's now called pan-sexual," says Snagglepuss), everyone in "Josie and the Pussycats," all three members of "The Hair Bear Bunch," several Smurfs, and Gargamel, and Foghorn Leghorn.

"That last one surprised even us," Huckleberry says. "And Bugs Bunny hasn't officially joined, but he has been to a few meetings." He divulges, "He had to dress up as a woman a lot on the show, and then found himself doing it off-screen."

Snagglepuss adds, "Of course, he could just be a straight cross-dresser, but he enjoys flirting with men. You may have noticed that he kissed a lot of male co-stars on his show, too." Huckleberry nods. "He's still trying to figure himself out."

Though both admit to some progress for gay cartoon characters, they're worried about the future. The increasing influence of the religious right and the passage of state laws banning gay marriage have Snagglepuss rallying the troops for the battles they may face in the next four years.

"I guess the most significant thing is that we've reached out to the puppet community," says Snagglepuss. "It's an important alliance. Tinky Winky weathered the storm, Bert and Ernie are still going strong after all these years, and Big Bird and Snuffleupagus just announced their engagement. Except for the hullabaloo about Buster the Bunny's human friends, PBS has been very supportive."

Huckleberry is less optimistic. "I just don't know what these next few years are going to bring. I'm concerned, very concerned." He shakes his head. "If these people knew what it used to be like for us they wouldn't force us to deny who we are. They'd have some compassion."

Snagglepuss puts his arm around the man he calls his husband. "They're only human beings," he says gently. "They just don't have the kind of depth that we do."


TOPICS: Political Humor/Cartoons
KEYWORDS: buster; cartoons; gays; homosexualagenda; humor; spongebob
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Wayland Smithers on the Simpsons...

Brian's cousin Jasper on Family Guy...

1 posted on 02/05/2005 7:44:02 PM PST by raccoonradio
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>>brutally caricatured on-screen by Robin Williams

...and later there was that character Robin played in "The Birdcage". "Madonna...Madonna...Madonna..."


2 posted on 02/05/2005 7:46:54 PM PST by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio

Peppermint Patty and Marcy from Peanuts


3 posted on 02/05/2005 7:48:35 PM PST by sassbox
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To: raccoonradio
Daffy Duck spoke with a lisp. I always thought Sylvester the cat was a gay pedophile with a thing for boy canarys.

Of course, Foghorn Leghorn and Elmer Fud were all man!

4 posted on 02/05/2005 7:48:58 PM PST by Clemenza (I Am Here to Chew Bubblegum and Kick Ass, and I'm ALL OUT OF BUBBLEGUM!)
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To: raccoonradio
>>Brian's cousin Jasper on Family Guy...

5 posted on 02/05/2005 7:49:14 PM PST by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio

Popeye was a little too obvious. The tight shirt, the fact that he spent most of his time rolling around with Bluto/Brutus, etc...


6 posted on 02/05/2005 7:50:41 PM PST by Clemenza (I Am Here to Chew Bubblegum and Kick Ass, and I'm ALL OUT OF BUBBLEGUM!)
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To: raccoonradio

You know, I thought this was only a crazy accusation from some over the top worrywort Christians, when a woman at the store the other day said the character was carrying a purse... But then she said he had a triangle on his forehead and I remembered all the media attention on local highschools(?) where certain counselors/teachers put up pink triangles on their doors to denote a homosexual acceptance zone.

This indicates to me that the left had every intention of subtly introducing homosexual icons. Of course, when they are discovered by the right, the left squeals that we are being paranoid. Then they continue to up the ante with further stunts. We need to learn how to respond more strategically.


7 posted on 02/05/2005 7:50:48 PM PST by Libertina (CPAC here we come! Send me your FR photos for CPAC!)
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To: raccoonradio

Snagglepuss gets my vote as gay-est cartoon character ("Exit, stage right")


8 posted on 02/05/2005 7:52:21 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: raccoonradio

Don't forget Charlie The Tuna from the Starkist commercials. Or Morris the cat from Nine Lives. Or Chip and Dale, the chipmunk couple who were never apart.


9 posted on 02/05/2005 7:53:52 PM PST by Clintonfatigued
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To: raccoonradio

Has anyone been able to determine if Casper was gay, or merely a bi-ghost?


10 posted on 02/05/2005 7:54:32 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: raccoonradio

Exit, stage left!


11 posted on 02/05/2005 7:54:38 PM PST by stormer (Get your bachelors, masters, or doctorate now at home in your spare time!)
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To: raccoonradio
The Pink Panther always seemed a little light in the loafers if you ask me.
12 posted on 02/05/2005 7:55:15 PM PST by CzarNicky (The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
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13 posted on 02/05/2005 7:55:28 PM PST by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio

I believe Southpark's "Big Gay Al" is gay....just a guess.


14 posted on 02/05/2005 7:55:34 PM PST by bigjoesaddle (Every tool is a wepon if you hold it right.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

>>Chip and Dale, the chipmunk couple who were never apart.

It's been speculated that Homer Simpson's co-workers, Lenny Leonard and Carl Carlson, profess the love that dare not speak its name.


15 posted on 02/05/2005 7:56:42 PM PST by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio
(and Lenny and Carl may be "pink" in another way...)

16 posted on 02/05/2005 7:57:58 PM PST by raccoonradio
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To: bigjoesaddle

but that cartoon is intended for adult audiences.

This is where you have children's characters associated with homosexuality in order to recruit children.


How about we have Crosses next to those pink triangles in order to denote areas where christians can "feel safe".

(all this freedome from "X" is very socialist FDR ala four freedoms.)


17 posted on 02/05/2005 7:59:18 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: raccoonradio

The stick man is gay. I mean, he's just a round head, arms, legs, body--neutered, asexual. That whole low bodyfat thing going on. Come on, you know it's true. You see your little boy drawing stick figures you'd better have a talkin' to him.


18 posted on 02/05/2005 7:59:28 PM PST by Darkwolf377 ("Of the four wars in my lifetime none came about because the U.S. was too strong."-Ronald Reagan)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Heckel and Jeckyl were two "bruthas on da Down Law" well before their time.


19 posted on 02/05/2005 7:59:47 PM PST by Clemenza (I Am Here to Chew Bubblegum and Kick Ass, and I'm ALL OUT OF BUBBLEGUM!)
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To: raccoonradio

Ziggy... Mighty Mouse... Fred from Scooby Doo... Captain Planet... Alvin the Chipmunk...


21 posted on 02/05/2005 8:01:58 PM PST by LeeHarvey
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To: raccoonradio

That's an imposter impersonating Popeye.

I followed the original Popeye's career from its inception in 1929. I never did decipher who Swee'pea's mama was.

Although Olive Oyl was his regular sqeeze, I always thought Popeye maybe had a thing for Sea Hag.

Bluto was a latecomer; a movie cartoon character. Not worthy of discussion.

And the Jeep was something of a mystery, too. He could appear and disappear at will. The WW2 Jeep was named after Popeye's Jeep. Don't think Popeye had a thing for his Jeep, though.

Now Wimpy, who could consume an infinite number of hamburgers at one sitting -- I had my suspicions about Wimpy.


22 posted on 02/05/2005 8:03:32 PM PST by Ole Okie
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To: Clintonfatigued
Chip and Dale were BROTHERS not lovers sex partners!!!
23 posted on 02/05/2005 8:03:56 PM PST by It's me
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To: bigjoesaddle

That's just super!

24 posted on 02/05/2005 8:04:09 PM PST by Lx (Tuesday is Soylent green day!)
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To: raccoonradio
Many people thought Bullwinkle and Rocky were an item which wasn't really true. Bullwinkle was actually a bull-dyke, but who knew? Rocky did, apparently, but that only made the flying squirrel love the moose all the more with unrequited affection.

Of course, the fact that Bullwinkle was a lesbian pales in comparison to the fact that a squirrel wanted to get in a moose's pants....

25 posted on 02/05/2005 8:04:09 PM PST by freebilly
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To: TAMU_Neocon
Yeah, I just did a websearch for "Lenny Carl Simpsons" and it turned up a Brazilian site saying they are "Communistas"...

http://www.thesimpsons.com.br/conteudo/textos/materias/lenny_e_carl.htm But think about their names:
Lenny- Vlad Lenin
Carl-- Karl Marx

26 posted on 02/05/2005 8:04:23 PM PST by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio

Was Snagglepuss the Pink Panther's gay cousin? Or was PP in the closet?


27 posted on 02/05/2005 8:04:41 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: raccoonradio

http://www.thesimpsons.com.br/conteudo/textos/materias/lenny_e_carl.htm


28 posted on 02/05/2005 8:05:05 PM PST by raccoonradio
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Have you SEEN Robin Williams lately? He really has turned into Popeye. YIKES.


29 posted on 02/05/2005 8:06:37 PM PST by Hildy ( To work is to dance, to live is to worship, to breathe is to love.)
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To: raccoonradio

Bugs Bunny is a cross-dresser.


30 posted on 02/05/2005 8:06:47 PM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: raccoonradio

Schleprock on Pebbles and Bambam. Yup.


31 posted on 02/05/2005 8:07:04 PM PST by Darkwolf377 ("Of the four wars in my lifetime none came about because the U.S. was too strong."-Ronald Reagan)
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To: raccoonradio

Porky Pig comes to mind--running around with no pants and all.Stuttering and lisping too.

And how come Roadrunner never hung around with roadrunner chicks,hmmmm?


32 posted on 02/05/2005 8:07:20 PM PST by exit82 (Ted Kennedy--swimming in lies since 1969.)
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To: Ole Okie
I had my suspicions about Wimpy

I think if they check the insulation in the California bungalow where Wimpy spent the remainder of his life as a has-been former cartoom actor there'd be a couple of grim surprises....

33 posted on 02/05/2005 8:08:06 PM PST by freebilly
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To: raccoonradio
Someone who always kept me on the narrow (and straight)...


34 posted on 02/05/2005 8:08:35 PM PST by Libloather (The left is dead! Long live their impeached *King and *Queen!)
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To: raccoonradio

This hen Larocca is about as sharp as a bowling ball..- Foghorn..


35 posted on 02/05/2005 8:08:36 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been ok'ed me to included some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: raccoonradio

How about those three stooges?
They made a movie in 1939:


Oily to Bed, Oily to Rise.

Hmmm.


36 posted on 02/05/2005 8:10:05 PM PST by atchoo2
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37 posted on 02/05/2005 8:12:32 PM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: raccoonradio
If you have ever seen a cartoon called Ed, Edd and Eddy, I think the character called Jimmy is Gay...

Ed, Edd, Eddy


Jimmy

38 posted on 02/05/2005 8:14:24 PM PST by Echo Talon (http://echotalon.blogspot.com/)
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39 posted on 02/05/2005 8:14:58 PM PST by Arkinsaw
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40 posted on 02/05/2005 8:15:39 PM PST by Libloather (The left is dead! Long live their impeached *King and *Queen!)
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To: raccoonradio

Dudley Do-Right of the Canadian Mounties: always gets his man.


41 posted on 02/05/2005 8:15:40 PM PST by just me (Over 59,000,000 Americans voted not to negotiate with terrorist.....)
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How about those three stooges?

Why do you think they called him 'Mo...?

42 posted on 02/05/2005 8:19:28 PM PST by freebilly
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To: just me

But on the other hand, he mounts his horse backwards....


43 posted on 02/05/2005 8:19:36 PM PST by proxy_user
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44 posted on 02/05/2005 8:19:58 PM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: raccoonradio
Velma from Scooby-Doo

Rosie The Robot from The Jetsons

45 posted on 02/05/2005 8:20:00 PM PST by silent_jonny ("Don't he never sleep?")
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To: Libertina
I concur.

I've said it for years, and I'll believe it until I die: They can't reproduce, so they have to recruit. They recruit the young, because we already know better. We willingly hand our young over to them every day in what used to be educational institutions.

I personally couldn't care less what someone does in their home as long as it doesn't hurt me or my family. But it's gays have decided to make an issue of their sexual orientation, not straight folks.

It's not just an "alternative lifestyle", and if one looks deeper into the issue it's plain to see.

Gays attempt or commit suicide at nearly 3 times the rate of the general population, are 3 times more likely to suffer domestic abuse (generally, from other gays), and have much higher rates of depression, and substance abuse.

Yet when confronted about the numbers, in my experience, they blame society for being intolerant.

Every gay man I've ever met has had serious long-term mental health issues.

They have as a whole been consumed by self-loathing, self-destructive impulses.

Also, I've yet to meet a lesbian who didn't hate her father (I've met a lot of them, my wife plays softball).

Given that it's not just contrary to basically every religious tenet on earth, and is contrary to evolution (it precludes procreation) as well, gay sex is the ultimate act of self-destruction, both personal and social.

I realize that's just anecdotal evidence, but it's my experience, and I have to live my life based on what I know from personal experience.

Besides, they're just nasty.

Oh, and just for the record, I'm not a "religious nut", I'm a "gun nut".
46 posted on 02/05/2005 8:20:18 PM PST by conservativeharleyguy (My dogs love Democrats, they taste just like meat.)
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(I've met a lot of them, my wife plays softball).

HAAAHAAA!!!

47 posted on 02/05/2005 8:22:30 PM PST by silent_jonny ("Don't he never sleep?")
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To: Arkinsaw

Yeah he had that Carmen Miranda thing down pat. But Yosemite Sam was definitely down with that, so what does that say about him? Was he a rube or a tranny chaser?


48 posted on 02/05/2005 8:22:44 PM PST by beaver fever
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49 posted on 02/05/2005 8:22:56 PM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: Clemenza
Popeye was a little too obvious. The tight shirt, the fact that he spent most of his time rolling around with Bluto/Brutus, etc...


50 posted on 02/05/2005 8:23:00 PM PST by uglybiker (SPES MEA IN DEO EST)
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