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To the Fringe's Edge: Let Us All Now Praise Famous Democrats?
The Richmond [VA] Richmond Times-Dispatch ^ | February 6, 2005 | Ross Mackenzie

Posted on 02/05/2005 8:44:53 PM PST by quidnunc

What is it with the national Democrats? What of their behavior? Where is their moderation, their bipartisanship?

Think about it.

In the recent presidential election John Kerry offered little beyond vacillation and defeatism — few alternatives that were positive, credible, coherent, or new. The election was fundamentally about character and ideas. He lost.

But not necessarily in his own mind: On "Meet the Press" last week he said: "I lost … to an incumbent President by a closer margin than an incumbent President has ever won re-election before." But: "I won the popular vote in the battleground states by 2 percentage points. We just didn't distribute it correctly in Ohio." And: "Millions of new voters came into the process. I won the youth vote. I won the independent vote. I won the moderate vote."

Kerry doesn't believe he lost in the realm of ideas. He believes the Republicans out-organized his campaign. That view is echoed by Howard "Primal Scream" Dean, now favored to become the Democrats' next national chairman — and never mind that (a) Dean lost all 18 Democratic primaries except the one in his home state of Vermont, and (b) he is broadly perceived as an ideological Visigoth. In New York the other day he said, "I hate the Republicans and all they stand for," adding that he admires the GOP only for its "discipline and organization."

When the election returns went to Congress for official sanction, Democratic bitter-enders surprisingly organized the first congressional challenge of a presidential outcome since 1877.

There's more, much of it suggesting the Democrats just don't get it.

-snip-

(Excerpt) Read more at timesdispatch.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: kerrydefeat; mackenzie

1 posted on 02/05/2005 8:44:53 PM PST by quidnunc
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To: quidnunc
"I won the youth vote. I won the independent vote. I won the moderate vote."

You won the moron vote.

2 posted on 02/05/2005 8:49:31 PM PST by Savage Beast (My parents, grandparents, and great grandparents were Democrats. My children are Republicans.)
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To: quidnunc
"I won the popular vote in the battleground states by 2 percentage points. We just didn't distribute it correctly in Ohio."

LOSER....

3 posted on 02/05/2005 8:51:58 PM PST by freebilly
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To: quidnunc
"(Teddy) Kennedy refers repeatedly to administration nominees to the federal courts as 'Neanderthals'."

Wasn't that "Fellow Neanderthals"?

"WHAT ARE the Democrats thinking? Are they in denial?"

Bullseye!

4 posted on 02/05/2005 8:59:44 PM PST by Savage Beast (My parents, grandparents, and great grandparents were Democrats. My children are Republicans.)
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To: quidnunc
"There's more, much of it suggesting the Democrats just don't get it."

Yea..identifying oneself with multiple amoral factions in a predominately Christian society may be part of the problem,..ya think?

5 posted on 02/05/2005 9:03:51 PM PST by Earthdweller (US descendant of French Protestants)
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To: Savage Beast

He also won the dead vote.


6 posted on 02/05/2005 9:10:10 PM PST by SilentServiceCPOWife (Romeo&Juliet, Troilus&Crisedye, Bogey&Bacall, Gable&Lombard, Brigitte&Flav)
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To: quidnunc
National Democrats. Hmmm, thats an interesting distinction. Triangulation?
7 posted on 02/05/2005 9:10:28 PM PST by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: quidnunc
"I won the youth vote. I won the independent vote. I won the moderate vote."

... and (decisively) lost the thinking person's vote.

8 posted on 02/05/2005 9:37:23 PM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (I feel more and more like a revolted Charlton Heston, witnessing ape society for the very first time)
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To: quidnunc
lost … to an incumbent President by a closer margin than an incumbent President has ever won re-election before." But: "I won the popular vote in the battleground states by 2 percentage points.

Classic Kerry. I don't recall ever hearing him have a sentence that did not contain or intone "but" or "however" or some other equivocating clause.

9 posted on 02/05/2005 9:46:45 PM PST by Personal Responsibility (Its time the USA was a little more cat and a little less mouse.)
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To: Personal Responsibility

Silly you, don't you recognize "nuance" when you hear it?

Of course Kerry has to add a "but" or a "however"--if he just came down on one side or another, he would look, ignorant and stooopid like Bush--

no,no, the elites are "nuanced", so they can make up an excuse for being on the wrong side of every argument.


10 posted on 02/05/2005 9:50:58 PM PST by Txsleuth (Proud to be a Texan)
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To: Savage Beast

"I won the youth vote. I won the independent vote. I won the moderate vote."

...I won the traitor vote!


11 posted on 02/05/2005 9:54:58 PM PST by winner3000
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To: freebilly

how exactly do they distribute votes?


12 posted on 02/05/2005 9:58:52 PM PST by GeronL (2-7-72 is my birthday, in lieu of gifts, just send me cash)
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To: Savage Beast
Wasn't that "Fellow Neanderthals"?

Sorry, but archaeological evidence strongly suggests that even Neanderthals cared for their wounded; to consider Kennedy among Neanderthal would erroneously overestimate his humanity. Mary Jo Kopechne could not be reached for comment because the distinguished senior Senator from the great Commonwealth of Massachusetts abandoned her to suffocate in an air compartment in the car that he parked inverted in a Massachusetts tidal marsh after a drunken party in 1969.

13 posted on 02/05/2005 10:16:27 PM PST by dufekin (Saddam Hussein: both a TERRORIST and a COMMUNIST, deposed thank God and the American soldier!)
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To: quidnunc

"Millions of new voters came into the process. I won the youth vote. I won the independent vote. I won the moderate vote."

NewsFlash for the 'Moron' Senator from Taxachusetts.......
YOU LOST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


14 posted on 02/05/2005 10:46:59 PM PST by FlashBack (Faith will not make our path easy, but it will give us strength for the Journey.)
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To: GeronL
how exactly do they distribute votes?

Dead Democrats and live Republicans each get one vote....

15 posted on 02/05/2005 10:52:21 PM PST by freebilly
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To: quidnunc
More excerpt--

Generally among Democrats, choice regarding abortion does not equate with choice regarding, say, a private-investment option in Social Security or with medical savings accounts. Democrats regard the establishment press, if it ever was liberal, as now dominated by conservatives. They issue no demands for a Dan Rather apology to President Bush -- an apology as yet unuttered. They see in President Clinton's National Security Adviser Sandy Berger -- under investigation for stuffing classified documents at the National Archives into his socks -- more a hero than a thief.

Petty and mean, inflexibly partisan, destructive far more than constructive, defining themselves by their ideological obstructionism -- the Democrats just don't seem to get it. They are confirming the worst fears expressed a year ago by one of their last surviving moderates, Joe Lieberman -- that his party is reverting to its narrow McGovernism of old.

John Edwards may be one who sort of gets it. "I don't think this is about moderate, conservative, [or] liberal. Americans are looking for strength, an idealistic strength. They want to know what we [Democrats] would do on Day One if we ran the country." The one who may get it all too well is Hillary Clinton, she of "vast right-wing conspiracy" fame: On issue after issue there she is -- rushing to the center at light-speed."

Pretty great stuff here.

16 posted on 02/05/2005 11:00:23 PM PST by freebilly
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