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Christian crusaders go to battle over spanking - Tools of discipline horrify some of faithful
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 2/6/5 | Anna Badkhen

Posted on 02/06/2005 4:18:14 PM PST by SmithL

Arlington, Mass. -- To raise a child, one needs three invaluable allies: the Bible, the help of an extended family and "biblical-based resources" -- 9-inch-long spanking paddles of blue polyurethane, according to Steve Haymond from Bakersfield, who sells the paddles online for $6.50 apiece.

Twyla Bullock, in Eufaula, Okla., swears by the Rod -- a 22-inch, $5 white nylon whipping stick her husband designed and produced until recently. Named after the biblical "rod of correction," the Rod provides "a faith-based way to discipline children ... and train them as Christians," Bullock explains.

Susan Lawrence, a devout Lutheran from Arlington, Mass., is appalled.

"Christians are supposed to listen to Jesus," Lawrence said, bringing the Rod down with a thump on the seat of her living room futon and looking at the resulting dent with incredulity. "Can you imagine Jesus teaching to use the Rod?"

Corporal punishment has long been an accepted method of child discipline among evangelical and fundamentalist groups, but an increasing number of Christians are raising objections, arguing that advocates of spanking wrongly cite Scripture to justify a practice that should be banned. Lawrence, who peppers her conversation with quotes from the New Testament, says striking children defies the Golden Rule from the Gospel of Matthew: "In everything do to others as you would have them do to you."

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: betterparentthangod; compromisedchristian; corporalpunishment; discipline; parenting; smarterthangod; spanking
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Susan Lawrence founded Stop the Rod after she found one advertised in Home School Digest.

1 posted on 02/06/2005 4:18:14 PM PST by SmithL
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To: SmithL
Yup. Spare the rod and spoil the frickin' child. My daddy tanned my hide with a leather belt more than once, and in hindsight, I deserved every whack. Spending the next few hours sitting sidesaddle allowed me to be introspective about my transgressions. That's why this hands-off, do-whatever-feels-good society is heading into the crapper.


2 posted on 02/06/2005 4:25:31 PM PST by Viking2002 (Let's get the Insurrection started, already..............)
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To: SmithL

Why is it that people with calm, compliant children want to force their parenting methods on people who have more challenging children?


3 posted on 02/06/2005 4:34:07 PM PST by aberaussie
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To: Viking2002

""Corporal punishment has long been an accepted method of child discipline among evangelical and fundamentalist groups""

It's kind of funny that those are the groups with the lowest crime rates.


5 posted on 02/06/2005 4:39:12 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell ( There's no Double Talk from Dubya!)
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To: Motherbear

This stuff is creepy. Advertising methods of corporal punishment leads me to think some folks get a real charge out of whuppin' their kids.


6 posted on 02/06/2005 4:42:12 PM PST by sinkspur ("Preach the gospel. If necessary, use words.")
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To: aberaussie

I've always wondered that myself. I have one child that would feel bad and start crying the second you raised your voice at her. She rarely needed spanking.


7 posted on 02/06/2005 4:43:11 PM PST by conservative cat
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Why would anyone send away for a plastic rod? And who actually hits their kids with a plastic rod?




8 posted on 02/06/2005 4:45:29 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell ( There's no Double Talk from Dubya!)
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To: LauraleeBraswell
On both issues, it's called 'responsibility', madam. Something that this society has an increasingly tenuous grasp of.


9 posted on 02/06/2005 4:46:33 PM PST by Viking2002 (Let's get the Insurrection started, already..............)
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To: SmithL
"Can you imagine Jesus teaching to use the Rod?"

Considering that when He returns, it will be with a rod of iron, YES.

Considering that He said, "I come not to change on jot of The Law..."; and condsidering what The Law had to say about punishment, YES.

10 posted on 02/06/2005 4:48:23 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (The world needs more horses, and fewer Jackasses!)
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To: SmithL

Gee, this should help stop Christian bashing. Let`s comes across as radical Muslims. On the other hand it probably will help considering how liberals treat radical Muslims.


11 posted on 02/06/2005 4:48:36 PM PST by Imaverygooddriver (I`m a very good driver and I approve this message.)
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No, I'm not against someone spanking their kids.
I just think a plastic rod is kind of an odd thing.


12 posted on 02/06/2005 4:48:56 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell ( There's no Double Talk from Dubya!)
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To: SmithL

I figure that IF a slap needs to be administered, an open hand is sufficient, and only once at a time, for children under five. After that age, spanking tends to be counterproductive for most children (then again I don't have a hellion on my hands).


13 posted on 02/06/2005 4:49:06 PM PST by coydog (My bathroom djinn can beat up your bathroom djinn!)
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To: SmithL
Corporal punishment has long been an accepted method of child discipline among evangelical and fundamentalist groups, but an increasing number of Christians are raising objections, arguing that advocates of spanking wrongly cite Scripture to justify a practice that should be banned.

It was accepted by society until Dr. Spoke and his books on raising children permissively came out.

14 posted on 02/06/2005 4:49:47 PM PST by Texas Mom
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To: SmithL
Corporal punishment has long been an accepted method of child discipline among evangelical and fundamentalist groups, but an increasing number of Christians are raising objections, arguing that advocates of spanking wrongly cite Scripture to justify a practice that should be banned.

It was accepted by society until Dr. Spoke and his books on raising children permissivly came out.

15 posted on 02/06/2005 4:50:08 PM PST by Texas Mom
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To: LauraleeBraswell
Hey, whatever stings their little behinds. I'd imagine that in urban areas, hickory switches are as scarce as hen's teeth. LOL


16 posted on 02/06/2005 4:51:18 PM PST by Viking2002 (Let's get the Insurrection started, already..............)
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To: SmithL

Lay you odds her "Jesus" won't send anyone to Hell, either.

Dan


17 posted on 02/06/2005 4:52:46 PM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Viking2002
I'd imagine that in urban areas, hickory switches are as scarce as hen's teeth.

Yes, but hairbrushes weren't!

18 posted on 02/06/2005 4:53:08 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (The world needs more horses, and fewer Jackasses!)
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To: SmithL

re the "christians" who think spanking should be banned... there are plenty of "christians" who think abortions are ok too.. just because you call yourself something doesn't make it so.


19 posted on 02/06/2005 4:57:23 PM PST by Awestruck (The artist formerly known as Goodie D)
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To: LauraleeBraswell
Why would anyone send away for a plastic rod? And who actually hits their kids with a plastic rod?

Maybe some televangelist prayed over it or something.

Like I said, a parent who would actually sit down and place an order for an implement to beat their children with has bigger problems than disobedient kids.

20 posted on 02/06/2005 4:58:11 PM PST by sinkspur ("Preach the gospel. If necessary, use words.")
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