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School Board Member Asked to Resign After 'Ex-Gay' Reference
ProudParenting.com ^ | Wednesday, February 09, 2005 | ProudParenting.com

Posted on 02/09/2005 9:51:01 AM PST by Clint N. Suhks

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To: Clint N. Suhks

There has been no proof one way or another about the causality or the changeability of homosexual orientation. The question for me is, was he exercising his freedom of speech as an individual, in which case this is fine, or was he sending the information in his official capacity, in which case I'm not sure it's appropriate.


21 posted on 02/09/2005 10:09:56 AM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: Clint N. Suhks
"Hunt should not be permitted to spread this kind of harmful misinformation,"

Of course gay rights groups only spread truth.

22 posted on 02/09/2005 10:10:00 AM PST by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Andrew Heyward's got to go!)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

I wonder if all of the "Free Speech" activists supporting Ward Churchill will defend this guy.....


23 posted on 02/09/2005 10:11:09 AM PST by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you don't have to" ;)
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To: Unam Sanctam
I've found a sure fire method for determining what the left believes constitute freedom of speech.

1. Agree with speech = ok
2. disagree with speech = not ok
24 posted on 02/09/2005 10:13:29 AM PST by Mulch
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Here is an example of the liberal left and their hypocricy. Where is the 1st amendment and the rights of this school board member to FREE SPEECH. Its not free speech unless it goes against our liberal agenda. This minority gets way too much press, however, as we now know, the main stream media will further the liberal agenda as they see fit, and is exactly the reason to ignore them. BTW, I agree that the gays are sick and need therapy to straighten out their natural state of mind, and that they are so mentally ill they are incapable of understanding their illness and its impact on their lives.


25 posted on 02/09/2005 10:18:15 AM PST by CIDKauf (Our greatest fear is not that we are inadequate, but that we are powerful beyond measure.)
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To: Unam Sanctam
There has been no proof one way or another about the causality or the changeability of homosexual orientation.

"Changeability" has been proved, Dr. Robert Spitzer, the APA shrink responsible for removing homosexuality from the DSM, has research that confirms change is possible.

27 posted on 02/09/2005 10:18:37 AM PST by Clint N. Suhks
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To: Clint N. Suhks; scripter; longtermmemmory; lentulusgracchus; ArGee; SweetCaroline; nicmarlo; ...
BTTT


Homosexual Agenda: Categorical Index of Links (Version 1.1)


What We Can Do To Help Defeat the "Gay" Agenda


Myth and Reality about Homosexuality--Sexual Orientation Section, Guide to Family Issues"

28 posted on 02/09/2005 10:20:50 AM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: Born Conservative

Public schools ping


30 posted on 02/09/2005 10:22:09 AM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: SKM
Where do you want them to go? The issue may be one of free speech, and no-one's speech, should be infringed, but is not the gay community entitled to speak?
The 1.8%-of-the-population gay community certainly doesn't suffer from a lack of free speech, does it?

And welcome to Free Republic.


31 posted on 02/09/2005 10:26:45 AM PST by AnnaZ (Repent. The end is nigh.)
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To: SKM

Well you can look at NARTH's website for starters. Then there's a video the AFA is ciculating called "It's Not Gay."

Personally, I don't know if they are 100% effective, as they claim, but I would think that any person has the ability to alter their behavior even if they cannot wholly eliminate a desire. Just like a hot-tempered person (such as myself)doesn't angrily lash out everytime they feel they are justified, a homosexual (or heterosexual for that matter) doesn't have to act on every sexual impulse.


32 posted on 02/09/2005 10:27:46 AM PST by two134711
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To: SKM

There really is only one question that needs to asked in any question regarding this subject, and that is this: Do you believe the homosexual act is sexually perverted. If you answer "no", then you are a homosexual. If your answer to that question is "yes" than all other questions regarding this subject are clear.


33 posted on 02/09/2005 10:30:33 AM PST by Mulch
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To: SKM; EdReform
Does anyone have any data on whether reparative therapy actually works?

Ed, do you have the Wall Street Journal interview with Dr. Robert Spitzer and his research study on ex-gays? He finds that "change is possible".

34 posted on 02/09/2005 10:30:57 AM PST by Clint N. Suhks
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To: SKM
Where do you want them to go?

How about reparative therapy?

36 posted on 02/09/2005 10:32:49 AM PST by Clint N. Suhks
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To: Mulch
Do you believe the homosexual act is sexually perverted. If you answer "no", then you are a homosexual.

I prefer the term "homophile" myself, but to each his own...

37 posted on 02/09/2005 10:33:10 AM PST by two134711
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To: Clint N. Suhks; SKM
My profile has some links on the subject:

2003

Spitzer Study Published: Evidence Found for Effectiveness of Reorientation Therapy (NARTH)

2001

Spitzer Forced to Cancel Appearance to Discuss His Ex-.Gay. Study (Culture and Family), FreeRepublic
Supporting Documents on Spitzer (FreeRepublic)
Spitzer on Homosexuals can Change, part 1 (FreeRepublic)
Spitzer on Homosexuals can Change, part 2 (FreeRepublic)
Spitzer on Homosexuals can Change, part 3 (FreeRepublic)

38 posted on 02/09/2005 10:37:24 AM PST by scripter (Tens of thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: SKM
This isn't a case of letting the gay community speack. They speak all the time. The problem is caving into their demands simply because people are afraid of looking prejudiced.

The issue here is does someone have the right to talk about changing sexual orientation? Yes, they do. The only ones who don't think so are the gays and the liberal left because they simply won't admit that change can take place. The country is full of people who have changed. I have see videos of interviews with ex-gays. The proof is there, the gays want to ignore it, because it doesn't fit it with the "we are victims and can't help it" theory they employ to make everyone cave in to their demands.

It is time that these 3% of the population are made to realize the country doesn' turn on them.

40 posted on 02/09/2005 10:38:22 AM PST by calex59
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