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School Board Member Asked to Resign After 'Ex-Gay' Reference
ProudParenting.com ^ | Wednesday, February 09, 2005 | ProudParenting.com

Posted on 02/09/2005 9:51:01 AM PST by Clint N. Suhks

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To: Clint N. Suhks

http://www.regent.edu/general/about_us/


81 posted on 02/09/2005 3:19:55 PM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: EdReform

BTTT for later reading


82 posted on 02/09/2005 3:20:36 PM PST by SweetCaroline (Be still and rest in the Lord; wait for Him and lean yourself upon him... Psalm 37:7)
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To: EdReform

Where does this doctor, William Byne, get off stating, unequivocably: "it is unethical to act in any way to promote the agenda of such a movement ["anti-gay religionists"] that is driven by fear and hatred and almost devoid of compassion"? What people is he referring to? Which group of "anti-gay religionists" is he specifically attacking? How did he come to the conclusion as to what their motivations are? How does he know that, as a group, these people are "driven by fear and hatred"? What are these people (whoever they are) not compassionate about?


83 posted on 02/09/2005 3:26:54 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: EdReform
http://www.regent.edu/general/about_us/

Oh darn, I just sent off the email with that link saying how his arguments should remain secualr in nature...oh well.

84 posted on 02/09/2005 3:30:19 PM PST by Clint N. Suhks
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To: kenth; CatoRenasci; Marie; PureSolace; Congressman Billybob; P.O.E.; cupcakes; Amelia; Diana; ...

85 posted on 02/09/2005 3:43:25 PM PST by Born Conservative (Those who hate you don't win unless you hate them. And then you destroy yourself." - Richard Nixon)
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To: EdReform
I like this quote, too: "Dr. Spitzer's treatment illustrates the rampant extremism and intolerance among gay rights activists toward those who dare question their orthodoxy." Their pro-homosexual groups all band around everyone else changing, and being "tolerant" with others who are "different" ffrom themselves. But they sure aren't tolerant of others who either aren't the way they are (different), don't agree with everything they say (different), or object to what they're doing completely (different).
86 posted on 02/09/2005 3:45:33 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo
I like this quote, too: "Dr. Spitzer's treatment illustrates the rampant extremism and intolerance among gay rights activists toward those who dare question their orthodoxy." Their pro-homosexual groups all band around everyone else changing, and being "tolerant" with others who are "different" ffrom themselves. But they sure aren't tolerant of others who either aren't the way they are (different), don't agree with everything they say (different), or object to what they're doing completely (different).

Is that from the gay orthodoxy article? If so you must have the software to convert it from a pdf file...and if that's true could you freep mail me a copy of even post it as a thread?

87 posted on 02/09/2005 3:53:46 PM PST by Clint N. Suhks
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To: Clint N. Suhks

No....I'm just retyping it, Clint....sorry.


88 posted on 02/09/2005 3:55:22 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Clint N. Suhks

But I could retype it; I'm a fast typist. But I probably couldn't do it tonight...I've run out of paper and it would take too long to look between screens, I think.


89 posted on 02/09/2005 3:56:41 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Clint N. Suhks
This is another good quote:

pg. 7 (247 on text): "If opinions are founded purely on the alleged expert's personal morality or subjective beliefs, then a psychiatrist is no more an expert on homosexuality than an Orthodox rabbi or a Baptist preacher."

90 posted on 02/09/2005 4:10:18 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo
From the article:


Dr. Byne, for example, never offered any evidence for lumping Dr. Rekers with "antigay religionists." I can only speculate that it is because Dr. Rekers holds a doctorate in theology in addition to his doctorate in psychology. But Rekers is also a tenured professor of neuropsychiatry at the University of South Carolina and an internationally recognized expert on Gender Identity Disorder. Is it really so much to ask that his paper be evaluated on its merits?


NARTH, however, is their primary target.



How does he know that, as a group, these people are "driven by fear and hatred"?


If you disagree with their agenda, you are a 'homophobe' and a 'hater' and must be silenced -- Documented in replies 308, 391, 143, 68, 443, 108, 245, 243, 175, and 136 of Scripter's Index of Links thread.


See also:

Special Class Protections for Self-Alleged Gays: A Question of "Orientation" and Consequences - A Public Policy Analysis

Seven Things I Wish Pro-Gay People Would Admit

91 posted on 02/09/2005 4:16:36 PM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: nicmarlo; scripter; EdReform
No don't retype it, I think scripter said he had a pdf converter. If that's true script could you convert this and freepmail it to me or post it as a thread?

http://www.regent.edu/acad/schlaw/academics/lawreview/articles/14_2clevenger.PDF

I've just started reading it and it is great and what an indictment against liberal academia and the APA. Good find Ed, we need to post this as a thread.
92 posted on 02/09/2005 4:17:37 PM PST by Clint N. Suhks
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Okay, I won't retype it....I did start, lol. I'm on page 2 retyping it.


93 posted on 02/09/2005 4:25:56 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Clint N. Suhks
I like this quote too:

”Unlike the voir dire process for selecting jurors, establishment science has no process for vetting the fairness of peer reviewers. In fact, peer reviewers are often anonymous.”

I can’t believe what I am reading. We've been had and the academic sciences need to be exposed.

94 posted on 02/09/2005 4:27:01 PM PST by Clint N. Suhks
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Yes, I liked that quote too...and almost posted it myself. I work in the legal profession, so I'm fairly familiar with some of the procedures.


95 posted on 02/09/2005 4:28:33 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: EdReform

I will look at that later, Ed; thanks for posting.


96 posted on 02/09/2005 4:29:38 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Don't forget to 'connect the dots' by doing the reading exercise in reply 68 above

;o)


97 posted on 02/09/2005 4:32:27 PM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

bmp


98 posted on 02/09/2005 4:33:28 PM PST by cowtowney
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To: Clint N. Suhks; nicmarlo; scripter; ArGee; John O
Here's another interesting excerpt from Gay Orthodoxy and Academic Heresy:

"... The APA blocked presentations from researchers on whether sexual orientation can be changed through counseling and therapy,11 yet it published controversial research suggesting that sex between children and adults may not be harmful and then styled itself a defender of academic freedom (prompting both houses of Congress to take the unusual step of passing a unanimous resolution of condemnation).12

Meanwhile, the American Psychiatric Association [not to be confused with APA, which is American Psychological Association] offered luridly titled presentations on counseling aspiring transsexuals.13 This creates a rather bizarre contrast.

On the one hand, "mainstream" academic/professional organizations publish research suggesting adultchild sex may not be harmful, and they endorse supportive therapy for individuals who wish to surgically alter themselves (some would say physically mutilate themselves) from one sex to the other. Yet, they denounce as unethical any healthcare professionals who offer therapy to homosexuals who wish to become heterosexuals.

In other words, it is ethical to counsel a man to have his penis removed so he can have sex as a heterosexual woman, but it's unethical to counsel a man to have sex as a heterosexual man even if he wants to have sex as a typical man..."


99 posted on 02/09/2005 4:40:56 PM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: nicmarlo; EdReform
Yes, I liked that quote too...and almost posted it myself. I work in the legal profession, so I'm fairly familiar with some of the procedures.

Yeah, I can't believe there is no voir dire process for peer review...and this crap has been going on since 1973? There needs to be and investigation. This Regent article is justification for one. It's a blatant conspiracy that needs to be exposed. OMG

100 posted on 02/09/2005 4:42:07 PM PST by Clint N. Suhks
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