Posted on 02/09/2005 12:33:39 PM PST by Kennesaw
Woman who killed baby ordered sterilized
Published on: 02/09/05 A Fulton County judge has ordered sterilization for a woman who killed her 5-week-old daughter.
Superior Court Judge Rowland Barnes said Carisa Ashe, 34, has 90 days to have the tubal ligation that would prevent her from conceiving.
Ashe had been charged with murder in the Dec. 16, 1998, death of Destiny Ashe. An autopsy indicated Destiny had been shaken and hit so badly her brain swelled and hemorrhaged.
After two days of trial on the murder charge, Ashe pleaded guilty Tuesday to voluntary manslaughter, according to the district attorney's office.
Barnes gave Ashe five years on probation and said she must have a tubal ligation within 90 days or prosecutors can reinstate the murder charge.
Is the ACLU involved yet?
Baby Killer Must Have Tubes Tied
http://www.11alive.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=58728
A woman who pleaded guilty to killing her five-week-old daughter must have her tubes tied as part of a plea deal, the Fulton County District Attorney announced Wednesday.
Two days into her trial for the December 1998 death of the baby, 34-year-old Carisa Ashe agreed to plead guilty to a reduced charge of voluntary manslaughter. Under the terms of the plea, Ashe will have to serve five years on probation and undergo tubal ligation within 90 days. If she does not have the procedure, the murder charges could be revised, D.A. Paul Howard said.
Shaking and blunt-force trauma to the head resulted in Destiny Ashe's injuries, including swelling and hemorrhage of the brain, according to an autopsy report.
"she must have a tubal ligation"
I'm sure the ACLU won't let this happen-women have rights; babies don't. (sarc)
5 years of probation for murder?? How about this - lock her up for the rest of her life, or at least the rest of her reproductive years. Problem solved.
She named the child Destiny, and then she killed her. Geez.
I guess that was her "destiny", to be killed by her uncaring psycho mother
Do the litigation just above the shoulders. This one is polluting the air We breathe.
Litigation? you mean sue her?.......
"but it is about time women who abuse/abandon/mistreat their children are ordered to undergo sterilization. "
I say the same thing should go for deadbeat dads - off with their nads!!
I'm with you. This one deserves a tracheal litigation.
But, the bleeding hearts in south Fulton won't ever let this happen. Watch tomorrow's AJC for the hue & cry from the left.
It's hardly Constitutional to order someone sterilized. If she's a murderer, execute her. Don't set Hitlerian precedents.
I disagree. Judges cannot order people sterilized. Forced sterilization and abortion happen in China, but should never happen here. The woman deserves the death penalty for murder in my opinion, but I hate to see the government deciding who can and cannot have children.
Hear hear.... Where was the father?
Just kill the b---- and be done with it! All of this baby killing and abuse needs to stoop. There seem to be more and more of these horrible stories every day.
We need a LOT more of this, and not just for killing children, but for abuse and severe neglect as well.
Lock-up for life is a MUCH more expensive solution. Are you paying?
I agree with you. Forced sterilization concerns me as well. I do think the judge was way too lenient.
This approach does not involve the government deciding who can or cannot have children, until AFTER someone has had a child and killed or severely abused it. I have no problem with the government deciding that people who have done such things can't be allowed to have any more children. And the death penalty obviously would also have the effect of the governemnt preventing her from having any more children.
I'm with you. What this woman did has heinous, but the precedent it sets is worse still.
That's what I get for typing without My glasses, Mea Culpa!
Anyway, You should get the drift.
Your solution only changes the timing of the child's murder. Information doesn't change sheer evil.
I think this is clearly unconstitutional. (this is not a normative judgement, it's my understanding of the law)
For instance, I don't think you can't bargain away your First Amendment rights to get a shorter prison sentence. And the Supreme Court has found a similar (but non-textual) Constitutional right to procreate.
In fact, the Supreme Court has found that you can't even bargain away your right to monetary compensation for property taken by the state (Nollan v. California Coastal Commission). You can't even make an agreement with the government: "you let me get a permit to build up my coastal mansion, and I'll let you have a small strip of land for the public to use during the daytime as an easement")
Well, at least you didn't type LIBATION!........
"Just kill the b---- and be done with it! "
Aye.
"...I hate to see the government deciding who can and cannot have children."
I agree with you, because we all know the government will screw that up also. Knowing that, I hereby offer my services as a private citizen to make the decisions on who can and cannot have children.
I suppose that the innocent babies life is meaningless.
It is time women get comprable sentences to those men receive for the same crimes. No father who killed his child as she did, would get probabtion. Put this evil woman in prison for life with no parole and she'll have little luck in getting pregnant again. Feminists want equality with men, let's start with prison sentencing and then just watch the feminist scream and holler.
The only way I'd support forced sterilization is if we applied it to all registered Democrats...
It is about time that someone dealt with this problem with a solution that might just help! Child-murderers should NOT have another chance to kill a baby! The ACLU can just stuff it!
"5 years of probation for murder?? How about this - lock her up for the rest of her life, or at least the rest of her reproductive years. Problem solved."
I think we should just abort her. That way we don't have to pay for jail time or surgery.
Chiming in from Atlanta, with my two cents: This is a good thing.
Should sterilize women on welfare when they have more than two kids, also.
Yes; She should be shot.
If a woman will do this to her own child, why wouldn't she do it to a complete stranger's child?
GovernmentShrinker-(irony)-a mode of speech conveying the opposite of what is meant.
ooooh....I shouldn't be laughing:-)
Then again maybe we should give them an opportunity to be convicted of the their folly and repent. Some of the worst demorats turn out to be conservatives when the veil is removed.
How about abstinence?
Welcome to Free Republic. You know, if we just made it legal to kill children in the first year, that would have made a difference too! No crime, no foul. What matter if you cut it up 2 months before birth or two months after? Either way it'll hurt while it's happening, and when it's done, you have a messy little corpse. But no messy little trial! And that's what counts, really. Right?
someone who shakes her baby to death probably doesn't have the self control for abstinance.
They tend to do in their own before they ever take the first breath.
I agree. I should have focused more on my opposition to suggesting abortion to this situation.
The reality is that if people like this aren't prevented from having more children, the already huge government welfare and "child protection" bureaucracy grows ever more huge. It's not like they're going to become self-supporting, much less support their children. And of course, they won't bother to actually raise the children they have and don't quite manage to kill through violence and neglect, so when those children grow up, the government will have to provide yet more prison space.
Really, forcing them to get sterilized involves much smaller government than the alternatives.
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