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New Genetics Study Undermines Gay Gene Theory
http://www.drthrockmorton.com/article.asp?id=128 ^ | February 9, 2005 | Warren Throckmorton, Ph.D. & Durwood Ray, Ph.D.

Posted on 02/09/2005 4:28:55 PM PST by dcnd9

A study to be published in the March 2005 issue of the journal Human Genetics, and available online now, actually undermines the commonly held view that homosexual orientation is determined by genetic factors.

The study’s lead author Brian Mustanski from University of Illinois at Chicago said in a UIC news release that "There is no one 'gay' gene. Sexual orientation is a complex trait, so it's not surprising that we found several DNA regions involved in its expression."

However, a thorough examination of the actual report reveals no statistically significant findings for any of these DNA regions.

The authors describe in the article three non-X chromosomal "new regions of genetic interest” (7q36, 8p12, and 10q26). In the authors’ view, a noteworthy aspect of the study as follows: "Our strongest finding was on 7q36 with a combined mlod score of 3.45 and equal distribution from maternal and paternal allele transmission. This score falls just short of Lander and Kruglyak's (1995) criteria for genomewide significance." They go on to say "two additional regions (8p12 and 10q26) approached the criteria for suggestive linkage" - again pointing out that neither was statistically significant.

Thus, even the author’s “strongest finding” was not statistically significant by widely accepted scientific criteria.

The study also reexamined potential genetic contributions on the X chromosome from region Xq28. This is the region first identified by Dean Hamer as associated with homosexual orientation. However, this study re-analysis, to quote the authors, “did not find linkage to Xq28 in the full sample.” Read More@ http://www.drthrockmorton.com/article.asp?id=128

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: gay; gaygene; genetics; homosexualagenda; homosexuality; newbie; samesexattraction; study; theory
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To: blackie
Are you a machine or living entity that makes choices.

Both. I don't "choose" to feel hungry after many hours without eating, for example. Actions can be controlled; many desires and impulses can't.

41 posted on 02/09/2005 5:22:16 PM PST by ThinkDifferent (These pretzels are making me thirsty)
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To: lepton
Even if "Nurture" is actually "Trauma".

Of course. Although I think "marination" is usually more like it, as far as determining fairly unalterable traits.

42 posted on 02/09/2005 5:23:02 PM PST by firebrand
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To: dcnd9

So, if it isn't in their jeans (genes), maybe it's in their panties.

This revelation pretty much explains the rush from the left to embed homosexuals into the Boy Scouts. Get 'em young, while they can be more easily warped.


43 posted on 02/09/2005 5:27:28 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell ( Dems! Show us your exit plans for Germany,Japan, Bosnia ,S. Korea and we'll show you ours for Iraq.)
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To: dcnd9

It may be something else, anomalies in the hormonal bath the fetus is subjected to in the womb. Examples:

1. Girls with congenital adrenal hyperplasia. These girls have a much higher incidence of lesbianism, that the general female population. This is preseumably because of the exposure to testosterone during critical periods of fetal development.

2. There have been twin studies of male homosexual. Even when the boys are raised apart, there is an increased incidence of homosexuality in the other twin. This is presumably because of anomalies in the exposure to testosterone in the womb. Some researchers have even postulated the reason is additional exposure to testosterone in the womb, over the general male population. More research needs to be done.


44 posted on 02/09/2005 5:30:20 PM PST by punster
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To: ThinkDifferent

Bull sh*t! If desires and/or impulses cannot be controlled, it is a crime against humanity to define anything that poor helpless humanity does as a crime.


45 posted on 02/09/2005 5:32:06 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell ( Dems! Show us your exit plans for Germany,Japan, Bosnia ,S. Korea and we'll show you ours for Iraq.)
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To: dcnd9
I know a set of IDENTICAL (monozygotic) Twins. One is a Lesbian, the other is not.

Genetics my a$$.

46 posted on 02/09/2005 5:45:19 PM PST by Paradox (Occam was probably right.)
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To: ThinkDifferent

I got that you live an uncontrollable life, I don't.

You enjoy yours and I'll enjoy mine.

PS Feeling hungry is not an action ~ eating is an action ~ which you can chose or not chose to do.


47 posted on 02/09/2005 5:47:27 PM PST by blackie
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To: Paradox
Genetics my a$$.

My a$$ is also genetics, photogenetic that is.

What's next? Murderers will be recognized as a life style?

48 posted on 02/09/2005 6:30:02 PM PST by Leo Carpathian (FReeeePeee!)
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To: dcnd9

"...so it's not surprising that we found several DNA regions involved in its expression."

Golly did you? Are there?

Men discussing DNA and it's meaning and implications is a bit like a couple of mice coming upon schematics for Apollo 11. "Several regions involved in its expression" indeed! (And it's "not surprising" to boot!)


49 posted on 02/09/2005 6:39:25 PM PST by TalBlack
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To: dcnd9

undermines commonly held view? by who? only homoadvocates.

SERIOUS science has never supported the "born homosexual" view. They might as well say they undermine the commonly held view that people who go out friday nights are "born to party."


How did this study sneak out? The we are family foundation has their pro-homo video tape and all the other pro-homo MSM propaganda that is comming out now. (particularly the previous BS gene study and the other study about using gene manipulation to make homos have "natural" children.)


50 posted on 02/09/2005 6:54:14 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Ignatius J Reilly

That is absurd, you might as well be saying homosexuality is "Christianity which worships satan"

Any number of sexual fetishes have the same equivalency of homosexual behavior.

Religion is not needed to object to mental illness of homosexuality.


51 posted on 02/09/2005 6:58:56 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: punster

Twin studies have long been disproven. You have to do better than that.


52 posted on 02/09/2005 6:59:55 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Paradox

The twin studies have been long discredited.

This is why homosexuals have resorted to convoluted gene studies which use limited samples, skewed results, and seek to create confusion by saying homosexuality is "partially" genetic.

(kind of like being a little bit pregnant.)


53 posted on 02/09/2005 7:04:26 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: scripter

VERY nicely done!!


54 posted on 02/09/2005 7:08:31 PM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: EdReform

Why thank you. I still have quite a few more entries to update... and html tables would be nice (for alignment), but what we have works!


55 posted on 02/09/2005 7:14:39 PM PST by scripter (Tens of thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: scripter

BUMP!!!!


56 posted on 02/09/2005 7:18:40 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: bayourod

can't have both "parents" as lebians.

There is a famous new zeland study with identifies the mental damage suffered by young boys raised by lesbians.


57 posted on 02/09/2005 7:20:01 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: longtermmemmory

I can give you another example besides the example of women with CAH. DES (diethylstilbestrol) daughters, in addition to the propensity towards cervical cancer, they have a much higher incidence of lesbianism than the general population of women.

Furthermore, rat experiments have been performed, where cyproterone acetate was administered to female rats at critical times during fetal development. Cyproterone acetate is a potent androgen blocker. The resulting male offspring had reversed sexual behavior. They behaved like female rats, exhibiting lordosis in response to sexual advances by male rats. This is evidence sexual behavior can be influenced in the womb.


58 posted on 02/09/2005 7:38:45 PM PST by punster
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To: longtermmemmory

Thanks. Bout all coach Johnson, the science teacher, told us about genes was that if your parents didn't have any children you probably won't either.


59 posted on 02/09/2005 7:43:13 PM PST by bayourod (Unless we get over 40% of the Hispanic vote in 2008, President Hillary will take all your guns away.)
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To: blackie
PS Feeling hungry is not an action ~ eating is an action ~ which you can chose or not chose to do.

Um, yes, that's what I said.

60 posted on 02/09/2005 7:44:25 PM PST by ThinkDifferent (These pretzels are making me thirsty)
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