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Victims Gone Wild (How Feminism Has Messed Up Relationships)
www.metroactive.com ^ | 2005 | Amy Alkon

Posted on 02/09/2005 8:38:22 PM PST by teldon30

"IN SEDUCTION, the rapist often bothers to buy a bottle of wine," proclaimed radical feminist Andrea Dworkin in 1976. If you're a woman born 20 years ago, you probably don't even recognize Dworkin's name. Yet, there's a good chance you've had some seriously frustrating dates with her unwitting progeny: the guy who waits until date three or four—not to grab you, throw you up against the wall and suck face—but to politely inquire, "May I kiss you?"

Equal pay for equal work? It's a beautiful thing. Equal opportunity? Thrilled to have it. We women owe an enormous debt to Susan B. Anthony, Elizabeth Cady Stanton and all who followed in their footsteps, fighting the righteous fight against sex-based discrimination.

Unfortunately, in the late '70s and early '80s, feminism got hijacked by a small but vocal gang of Victims Gone Wild. Leading the band with Dworkin was anti-porn harpy and law professor Catherine MacKinnon (most of whose outrageous, but now commonly accepted, claims about the damage done to women by pornography were neatly debunked in a 2004 analysis by psych professor Catherine Salmon).

Dworkin, MacKinnon and their hairy-armpitted underbosses gave the order to the "victimized"—women, largely privileged and white, on campuses across America—to crawl out from under the boot of "male oppression." In reality, what they were fighting wasn't male oppression, but maleness of any kind—based on the erroneous feminist notion that equality means sameness.

In their eyes, male sexuality isn't just different. It's WRONG. Penetration is a form of rape, don'tcha know? Ultimately, these femi-fascists sought to re-create men in their own image and to reshape sexual expression into something kinder, gentler and more "egalitarian." (Personally, I have no idea what more "egalitarian" sex is—and I hope I never find out.)

According to their Stalinist-feminist party line, every man is a criminal—a rapist until proven otherwise. In 1992, a small mob of "wymyn" bullied Antioch College into passing the "Antioch Rules," a written code mandating that one obtain "clear verbal consent" from one's partner in any sexual act. At Antioch, from then on, raging desire was expected to play out as if accompanied by the small print on an airline ticket: "Pardon me, but would you mind giving me your unqualified verbal permission to tongue your left nipple?"

Men, as a group, were expected to feel ashamed—although the individual man was generally unclear as to what, he, personally, had done wrong, just by virtue of being born with a penis. Relations between men and women got very confusing. Opening the door for a girl didn't mean you were polite; it meant you found her inferior.

Whatever you do, don't compliment that female co-worker on her hair—a compliment is no longer just a compliment but a full-on patriarchal assault, surely intended to send a woman running, screaming, out of a "hostile workplace." It got to the point, in many quarters, where just about anything a guy could say or do, short of silently rolling over like a stuffed pink bunny, was seen as a capital offense upon the Sisterhood.

Perhaps some of this sounds like old news. It is—and it isn't. While the radical feminists have receded into the background, their agenda is still trickling down into sex, dating and relationships. Just look around at young women and what they wear. Sure, there is that subset of preteen streetwalker chic. But, there are also a lot of lonely women in their 30s and 40s who dress like men trying to attract work picking lettuce. Refusing to pander to "the male gaze" is what it used to be called.

These women can't, for the life of them, figure out why they're unable to get a date. After all, men "shouldn't" care about what's on the outside, right? They "should" only lust after that beautiful person within ... right? Yes, perhaps they "should." But they don't, and they won't, and the sooner women admit that, the sooner they'll have a date with more than their cat on Saturday nights. Of course, this does assume that women will be asked out. That's another big problem, judging by all the requests for advice I get from guys who wonder why no women will ever agree to go out with them, then note somewhere in their message that they're too terrified to even ask.

You really can't blame the guys. They're looking for a sign, any sign, that it's safe; that they won't be rejected. They aren't getting many (or any), because women who go out of their way to look like migrant laborers generally aren't in the habit of flirting—the method women have successfully used for centuries to send a message to men that the coast was clear for the asking.

Some misguided women today do try to take over and sweep a man off his feet. While there are those stories of deliriously happy couples in which the man was hunted down like prey, a whole lot of young women have learned the lesson the hard way that the dynamic created by this act of "equality" doesn't work.

Men and women are actually very different; biologically different. No, they didn't magically become the same just because a bunch of man-loathers in the women's studies ghetto decided to grow out their mustaches.

The burgeoning field of evolutionary psychology is proving that there's nothing new in psychology. In fact, an ever-increasing mountain of data shows that what men want and what women want has always been, and will likely continue to be, the same as it was back in cave days.

Acknowledging how we're hard-wired, and using it in our best interest doesn't "put a woman down." In fact, it takes a strong, self-assured, post-victim-feminist woman to ease up a little. Acting the girl (or putting on the alpha male) is a role—one that's worked for 10 million years. As a role, it involves play and fun—a big part of what's been lost on the dating scene.

It's time all women junked the big ugly boots, shelved the perpetually dour faces and worked up a seductive smile or two. Maybe, once they do, they'll inspire a guy to glue a little hair on his chest and ask them for a date. In time, the guy might even work up the guts to kiss them afterward—and without asking them to sign a permission slip first.


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: adultery; congress; daterape; dating; divorceindustry; domesticviolence; dv; dworkin; falseaccusations; feminism; feminized; genderwars; illegitimacy; independent; lawyers; liberated; men; promiscuity; supportalimony; unconstitutional; victimology

1 posted on 02/09/2005 8:38:22 PM PST by teldon30
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To: teldon30

bump


2 posted on 02/09/2005 8:42:42 PM PST by satchmodog9 (Murder and weather are our only news)
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To: teldon30

bump


3 posted on 02/09/2005 8:45:17 PM PST by King Prout (Remember John Adam!)
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To: teldon30
Women in the US have always been tough and strong. You can't tame a wilderness without being strong.

You couldn't cross a prairie, a desert or the mountains in a Conestoga with out being strong and resolute.

Pioneer women needed men that were equally strong,determined and resolute.

The feminists are totally clueless about what constitutes strength and weakness.

They think that hacking a man down to size elevated themselves.

In fact all liberalism is about carving achievers down to size rather than raising ones self up to the challenge.
4 posted on 02/09/2005 8:46:26 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (Certified cause of Post Traumatic Redhead Syndrome)
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To: Blue Jays

This is a troubling situation for both men and women these days BUMP.


5 posted on 02/09/2005 8:46:52 PM PST by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: teldon30

Well, just tell me where these all male types are please. I am pure female. I am not a victim. I have never been a feminist. I like to flirt. I have one problem. I am a baby boomer. But a young looking one. But, as you said, guys like what is on the outside. :(

LOL! Anyway


6 posted on 02/09/2005 8:48:26 PM PST by Goodgirlinred ( GoodGirlInRed Four More Years!!!!!)
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To: teldon30

bookmark


7 posted on 02/09/2005 8:58:36 PM PST by razorback-bert (An ASC-American)
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To: teldon30

Bump for my sometimes baffled brothers and nephews...It's harder for them after the bitter, paranoid feminist wrecking crews!


8 posted on 02/09/2005 9:03:41 PM PST by lainde ( ...we are not European, we are American, and we have different principles!")
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To: RepublicanReptile

Dandy essay!


9 posted on 02/09/2005 9:04:13 PM PST by JennysCool (I was so naive as a kid I used to sneak behind the barn and do nothing. -Johnny Carson)
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To: teldon30

Nice post.


10 posted on 02/09/2005 9:05:49 PM PST by CARepubGal
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To: Goodgirlinred

The further you get OUT of the cities, the easier it will be to find them. If that doesn't work, move down South.


11 posted on 02/09/2005 9:23:38 PM PST by loboinok (Gun Control is hitting what you aim at!)
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To: loboinok

I live in the South in a small town in the country. No luck. I am a widow. Remember, I said I am a baby boomer.


12 posted on 02/09/2005 9:34:46 PM PST by Goodgirlinred ( GoodGirlInRed Four More Years!!!!!)
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To: Goodgirlinred
"I have never been a feminist. I like to flirt. I have one problem. I am a baby boomer. But a young looking one."

Between that comment and the nick "GoodGirlinred" I think you owe us a picture.

13 posted on 02/09/2005 10:25:08 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: teldon30

Woman as victims to 'penetration'. Isn't that how its suppose to work anyways?

Perhaps in this new century its high time that men play the victim card. Turn on any media box (radio or TV) and listen or watch most any show or commercial that portrays both sexes. Men are typically treated as buffoons, talked down to (or over and around) or basically disrespected by the other sex. Sitcoms have traditionally used the male figure as the clown to whatever plot line develops around them. Kids talk back to the father, or ignore him or his advice or experience altogether -put down as stupid.

Now add on some gay agenda show or movie that slants there bias even more against the straight hetero-sexual male...

No wonder young males are confused. They look up to Pimp Daddys and sports superstars as role models that they can never be..those are the chick magnets now, according to Hollywood and MTV.


14 posted on 02/10/2005 1:45:41 AM PST by no_mm ("Give War a Chance." - Michael Savage)
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To: teldon30
Dating isn't much fun if you have to hire a lawyer before you start getting physical. Fortunately I haven't run into such a horror story yet.

Denny Crane: "There are two places to find the truth. First God and then Fox News."

15 posted on 02/10/2005 1:59:32 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: teldon30
The Truth About Susan B. Anthony and Her Friends

There is no such thing as moderate feminism.
16 posted on 02/10/2005 3:18:34 AM PST by familyop ("If you disrespect women you are not allowed to wear a mohawk" (Feminist Creed).)
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To: longtermmemmory; shaggy eel; Indie; Fiddlstix
Pinging, and see my post #16.
17 posted on 02/10/2005 3:21:13 AM PST by familyop ("If you disrespect women you are not allowed to wear a mohawk" (Feminist Creed).)
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To: teldon30
And here's what's really going on with many of the single men.

The Presumption Against Marriage
By Bernard Chapin

The Presumption Against Marriage, Part II
By Bernard Chapin

The Marriage Strike
By Matthew Weeks

Marriage: Just Say No
by Darren Blacksmith
18 posted on 02/10/2005 3:33:38 AM PST by familyop ("If you disrespect women you are not allowed to wear a mohawk" (Feminist Creed).)
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To: no_mm

"Perhaps in this new century its high time that men play the victim card."

WHAT UTTER NONSENSE!

Homosexuality, rampant porn, and hairy pitted feminists ... they are all the mold that will grow, quite naturally, when men and fathers slink away from their mission.

A lack of good fathering is the root of all this. An acceptance by guys, of the 'guy' label is the typical sympton of this root cause.

Guys are wimps.
Men fight.
Guys screw women.
Men protect women.
Guys marry and become frightened of their wives.
Men marry and husband their wives.
Guys love movies.
Men become the inspiration for future movies.
Guys hate golf.
Men rise to the challenge of golf.
Guys never do 'date night' w/ their teen-age daughters.
Fathers understand it is an essential step.
Guys are 'friends' with their kids.
Fathers father their kids, and prepare them to be friends.
Guys find porn irresistable.
Men understand porn to be an idol that competes with God.
Guys don't understand, nor seek God.
Men understand and can't live without God.
Guys make the woman the Goddess.
Husbands never curse their wives by elevating them to Godess.
Guys believe 'mom' is the most important family person.
Husbands believe 'wife' is the most important family person.
Guys believe children are their peers.
Fathers believe children are their dependents.
Guys believe in seperate checking accounts.
Husbands demonstrate the joys of a joint checking account.
Guys don't volunteer to serve in the Military.
Men realize that freedom isn't free.
Guys are boys trapped in men's bodies.
Men feel sorry for guys.

Especially guys who read articles like these and blame women for the state of today's society.


19 posted on 02/10/2005 5:47:40 AM PST by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/laocoon.htm)
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To: familyop
Sad state of affairs. The only answer is to find a traditional Christian woman whose goal is to be a Proverbs 31 type woman. A woman whose greatest dream is to be a good wife and mother.

If she doesn't really love Jesus then she can never truly love you

(I got one)

20 posted on 02/10/2005 6:01:43 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: gobucks
excellent post and all too true.

Unfortunately a 'man' has to find a 'woman' to be his counterpart and in order to do that he has to sort through all the womyn out there.

It doesn't matter if you're being a man if your wife is being a womyn.

21 posted on 02/10/2005 6:04:31 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: John O

" (I got one)"

Me too. (Thank you Jesus!)


22 posted on 02/10/2005 6:57:08 AM PST by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/laocoon.htm)
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To: familyop

"Just say no" really hits the spot. Never again.


23 posted on 02/10/2005 7:53:11 AM PST by Indie (Ignorance of the truth is no excuse for stupidity.)
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To: DannyTN

LOL! I don't know how to put one on. Anyway, this is not "Match.com." I was just expressing views on that comment to the article.


24 posted on 02/10/2005 8:29:52 AM PST by Goodgirlinred ( GoodGirlInRed Four More Years!!!!!)
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To: no_mm

Is that so? Jim Belushi is my hero. Now there is a really good looking, nice guy!


25 posted on 02/10/2005 8:32:16 AM PST by Goodgirlinred ( GoodGirlInRed Four More Years!!!!!)
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To: teldon30

feminists are vile evil disgusting creatures that only want to destroy men they dont want equality all they want is power and control i say to hell with them all.

''BURN IN HELL ALL YOU FEMNAZIS''


26 posted on 03/28/2005 11:01:28 PM PST by John from Oz (appauling)
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To: John from Oz

What a shock. Gasp, Surprise, stunned look you Mean Men Don't want to Date Women who act like Men? Tell me it ain't so. At 49 I have seen the mating dance between the genders for a few decades. Feminism is killing the relationship between the genders and is creating mistrust. Feminism is a Lesbian movement and a Trojan Horse for Feminism. Doubt it ask Tammy Bruce? Feminism continues to spin yarns about how evil Men are abusive etc. Ask Erin Pizzey about Feminists the founder of the Modern Shelter and Refuge movement in the 70s. She had her life threatened by Feminists.

Feminists are impossible to live with and are mentally deranged. They want to be Men and are fighting their own biology. In addition they are schizophrenic. They cannot even agree within their own movement. I don't define myself by my genitals, but Eve Ensler does. She wants your daughters, sisters, Girlfriends, wives, mothers to yell Cu#$, Cu*&,C&*^ on Valentine'd Day (V-Day). These nutbags want to tell the rest of us how to live and think. My response Hell NO.


27 posted on 07/06/2005 1:14:08 PM PDT by Khankrumthebulgar
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To: teldon30

bump for later


28 posted on 07/06/2005 1:15:56 PM PDT by Drew68 (IYAOYAS! Semper Gumby!)
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