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"Credentials in Question - Identity issues?" - Ward Churchill's 'heritage' doubted
Special Report with Brit Hume - The Grapevine ^ | Thursday, February 10, 2005 | Brit Hume/Michael Levine

Posted on 02/10/2005 10:10:22 AM PST by DaveLoneRanger

Controversial University of Colorado Professor Ward Churchill, who compared victims of the 9/11 attacks to Nazis says he's "not backing up an inch," insisting, "I owe no one an apology." Speaking at his university last night, Churchill said he not only had the right, but "indeed the obligation" to make the comparison.

Meanwhile, questions are mounting about who Churchill actually is. He's built a career in part on his claimed Native American heritage, but a genealogical study by the Rocky Mountain News has found no Native American ancestors in his family.

And a fellow researcher has looked into questions about Churchill's claim -- in a book and other works -- that a deadly smallpox outbreak among Native Americans in the 19th Century was started by the U.S. Army. According to Lamar University Assistant professor Thomas Brown, none of the sources Churchill cites said anything of the kind.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: academia; academicfraud; churchill; cu; highereducation; liar; wardchurchill
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Incidentally, this kook looks like the logic teacher I had trouble with.





Sorry the image is blurred...it's the one that shows her for her truly angry self. The other one on her own homepage is here:


1 posted on 02/10/2005 10:10:22 AM PST by DaveLoneRanger
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To: DaveLoneRanger

If that is an Indian, then I am a Black guy. The problem is he looks Norwegian and I am 100% Scots-Irish.


2 posted on 02/10/2005 10:11:44 AM PST by MikefromOhio (Ohio State: The 2005 NCAA Football champions....assuming they arent on probation!!!!!)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Is that the one that slapped a protestor (you?) at a meeting?


3 posted on 02/10/2005 10:12:03 AM PST by Flightdeck (Liberals see Saddam's mass graves as half full. I prefer to see them as half empty.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger


it's a he.

Ward is a he.


4 posted on 02/10/2005 10:12:55 AM PST by LauraleeBraswell (Forgive Russia, Ignore Germany, Punish France - Condoleezza Rice)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

He is the ugliest hippie-chick I've ever seen!


5 posted on 02/10/2005 10:13:11 AM PST by pissant
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To: DaveLoneRanger
I have dark blonde hair, blue eyes and a mustache, and am approximately 1/4 Comanche and I look more Indian than that goof Churchill!

Maybe I should claim affiliation with a tribe....I might get a better teaching job....Nah....then I'd be as bad as the libs!

6 posted on 02/10/2005 10:13:38 AM PST by Bombardier (What part of "Shall not be infringed" is unclear, you liberal moron?)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Actually well you what. My wife's father is a quarter Choctaw and her grandmother is half. NO WAY that guy is anything near a native American/Indian.


7 posted on 02/10/2005 10:13:48 AM PST by MikefromOhio (Ohio State: The 2005 NCAA Football champions....assuming they arent on probation!!!!!)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

"Ward Churchill's 'heritage' doubted"

I harbor NO doubts about Mr. Churchill's heritage...


8 posted on 02/10/2005 10:14:10 AM PST by Spok
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Let the hunt for radical profs begin! Happy hunting.


9 posted on 02/10/2005 10:15:35 AM PST by bubman
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To: Bombardier; pissant



The thing about the US is- Everyone is so mixed. No one looks anything anymore other than American.


10 posted on 02/10/2005 10:16:18 AM PST by LauraleeBraswell (Forgive Russia, Ignore Germany, Punish France - Condoleezza Rice)
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To: Spok

Its kinda like Michael Moore's fictional hardscrabble upbringing in blue-collar Flint, MI.


11 posted on 02/10/2005 10:16:34 AM PST by pissant
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To: LauraleeBraswell

He's 100%, full blooded hippie chick


12 posted on 02/10/2005 10:17:28 AM PST by pissant
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To: Bombardier
"I have dark blonde hair, blue eyes and a mustache, and am approximately 1/4 Comanche and I look more Indian than that goof Churchill!"

Start a casino and get rich! (And contribute generously to FreeRepublic!)

13 posted on 02/10/2005 10:18:40 AM PST by Enterprise ("Dance with the Devil by the Pale Moonlight" - Islam compels you!)
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To: DaveLoneRanger
"Credentials in Question - Identity issues?" - Ward Churchill's 'heritage' doubted

?.................what is 'DNA'....?

/Science 2005

..........................? his 'DNA' will show that he is really,....ITALIAN

/sarcasm

14 posted on 02/10/2005 10:22:03 AM PST by maestro
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To: bubman; Flightdeck; pissant; Bombardier; MikeinIraq; LauraleeBraswell
Is that the one that slapped a protestor (you?) at a meeting?

*Chuckles* No, I have yet to have the honor of being slapped by a protestor. She is an avid war protestor who has been arrested for civil disobedience, and who gave me some grief over my political views in class.

You can read about that here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1333796/posts

He is the ugliest hippie-chick I've ever seen!

Which one? :-D

I have dark blonde hair, blue eyes and a mustache, and am approximately 1/4 Comanche and I look more Indian than that goof Churchill!

My wife's father is a quarter Choctaw and her grandmother is half

"Cuz' I'm an Indian outlaw -- half Cherokee and Choctaw, and my baby, she's a Chippowa, she's a one-of-a-kind."

Let the hunt for radical profs begin! Happy hunting.

We in the wildlife management world would call this "open season" for a "population exceeding capacity." In other words, they need wildlife reduction.

The thing about the US is- Everyone is so mixed. No one looks anything anymore other than American.

With respect to my fellow Freepers quoted above, it does seem wrong to say you can tell a heritage because of appearance.
15 posted on 02/10/2005 10:22:53 AM PST by DaveLoneRanger (Shhh! Be vewwy, vewwy quiet! I'm hunting WIB-A-WULS! Heheheheheh...)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

This guy is just mad that he didn't get to play the indian who helped the islamofascists nuke Colorado when the movie company made a script change to Clancy's "The Sum of All Fears." He may not be an indian, but I could sure see him helping out the islamofascists...I mean, we deserve it, right?


16 posted on 02/10/2005 10:26:34 AM PST by WmDonovan (http://www.geocities.com/thelawndaletimes)
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To: MikeinIraq

Anybody that wants to call himself (or herself) an Indian, is an Indian. But to get the special entitlements that are bestowed upon Indians, you must be a part of a recognized tribe. The Lumbees of North and South Carolina, for example, are no longer a recognized tribe, as their blood is greatly diluted by European and African anscestry, and they have not retained any identifiable culture.

Anyone of less than 25% blood quantum, by tribal custom, are denied membership in that tribe, unless some sort of adoption procedures are carried out. This general rule does not necessarily apply to all tribes.

But it does for the Keetoowah Band of Cherokee Indians, the tribe to which Ward Churchill claims membership. In some math-impaired estimation, the blood quantum has been variously expressed as one-eighth, three-sixteenths, one-sixteenth, or even one-sixty-fourth. None of which even minimally qualifies.

CU should fire Ward Churchill for being a fraudulent Indian.


17 posted on 02/10/2005 10:33:55 AM PST by alloysteel ("Master of the painfully obvious.....")
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To: DaveLoneRanger

I'mpart Mohawk (my great gradfather was a French trapper in Canada and mixed it up with one of the locals), I wonder if they would pay me the $90K to write a few papers here and there.


18 posted on 02/10/2005 10:47:12 AM PST by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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To: DaveLoneRanger
I am just amazed at the amount of publicity this loser continues to stir up - which plays directly into his hands.

As a half-wit nobody who chairs the "Ethnic Studies" Dept. (as opposed to the "Underwater Basket Weaving Dept.) at CU he would have squandered his useless life in relative obscurity, ridiculed for the most part by his peers for his outlandish and mostly unsupported whacko theories on the decline of the American Indian civilization.

Now his garbage is spewed worldwide by the MSM pukes and he is enjoying a level of notoriety he once could only dream of. Watching him with a cheering throng of his adoring brainless followers makes me sick to my stomach. And I've seen that look in his eyes before...to a narcissistic moron like him, any attention is good.

I fear once again the Lame-Stream press and their insatiable appetite for nonstop tragedy have created their next Frankenstein's monster. The only consolation is the crushing blow to this scumbag's ego when their nanosecond attention span turns elsewhere.

A POS like this guy should only be marginalized and ignored. Anything else only lends false credence to his warped views.

19 posted on 02/10/2005 10:47:42 AM PST by liberty_lvr (Those who stand for nothing fall for anything.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger
a deadly smallpox outbreak among Native Americans in the 19th Century was started by the U.S. Army

I saw that movie. I think it was in the late forties or early fifties. Last of the Mohicans?
...
20 posted on 02/10/2005 10:48:20 AM PST by mugs99 (Restore the Constitution)
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To: liberty_lvr
A POS like this guy should only be marginalized and ignored. Anything else only lends false credence to his warped views.

S/he should be marginalised and ignored while NOT receiving a taxpayer subsidized salary to indocrinate students.

21 posted on 02/10/2005 11:01:24 AM PST by blanknoone (Steyn: "The Dems are all exit and no strategy")
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Who is that blonde woman?


22 posted on 02/10/2005 11:03:53 AM PST by sandbar
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To: Bombardier
am approximately 1/4 Comanche

Churchill belongs to AIM. AIM is an organization of liberal anti-American Chippewa and Sioux.
The Commanche are patriotic and conservative.
Quote from BadEagle.com Commanche website:
"Ward Churchill is white, always has been, and American Indian Movement leaders have always known it. He became "Indian" by virtue of his anti-Americanism, that's all. He got by with it because university Leftists were pleased to have such an articulate traitor on campus"
...
23 posted on 02/10/2005 11:11:16 AM PST by mugs99 (Restore the Constitution)
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To: blanknoone

You are absolutely correct; an important caveat I neglected to include in my rant!


24 posted on 02/10/2005 11:14:03 AM PST by liberty_lvr (Those who stand for nothing fall for anything.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger
excerpt from the Rocky Mountain News
Truth tricky for Churchill February 8, 2005

Consider: Churchill has constructed his entire academic career around the claim that he is a Native American, yet it turns out there is no evidence, other than his own statements, that this is the case.

Churchill has said at various times that he is either one-sixteenth or three-sixteenths Cherokee, yet genealogical reporting by the Rocky Mountain News and others has failed to turn up any Cherokee ancestors - or any other Native Americans - in Churchill's family tree.

Why should we care one way or another? We should care because Churchill has used his supposed Indian heritage to bully his way into academia. Indeed Churchill lacks what are normally considered the minimum requirements for a tenure-track job at a research university: he never earned a doctorate, and his only degrees are a bachelor's and a master's from a then-obscure Illinois college.

Churchill's lack of conventional academic credentials was apparently compensated for, at least in part in the eyes of those who hired him at the University of Colorado, by the "fact" that he contributed to the ethnic diversity of the school's tenure-track faculty.

25 posted on 02/10/2005 11:22:52 AM PST by syriacus (Ted Kennedy MIS-learned how to unseat dictators by watching JFK's Bay of Pigs fiasco.)
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To: syriacus
Ward Churchill tests positive for Indigenous genetic markers by by Ernesto Cienfuegos La Voz de Aztlan

Los Angeles, Alta California - February 7, 2005 - (ACN) The results of a much awaited ancestry genetic test of embattled American Indian scholar Ward Churchill conclusively proves that the professor of American Indian Studies at the University of Colorado at Boulder is in fact of both Creek and Cherokee descent. Professor Churchill has recently been the victim of a campaign of disinformation claiming that he was not a Native American. [snip]

[No flames please. I am merely the messenger]

26 posted on 02/10/2005 11:27:35 AM PST by syriacus (Ted Kennedy MIS-learned how to unseat dictators by watching JFK's Bay of Pigs fiasco.)
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To: syriacus
[continuation from above,"Ward Churchill tests positive for Indigenous genetic markers " ]

The genetic test results of Professor Ward Churchill show that he is a descendant of Creeks through his father and of Cherokees through his mother.

A copy of the test results was forwarded to La Voz de Aztlan under conditions of confidentiality.

Because of credible death threats to an east coast college where Professor Churchill was scheduled to speak, it was requested that the name of the genetic laboratory not be released.

27 posted on 02/10/2005 11:30:23 AM PST by syriacus (Ted Kennedy MIS-learned how to unseat dictators by watching JFK's Bay of Pigs fiasco.)
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To: syriacus

Not opening fire.....All we need do is consider that the sources of support Churchill is getting are as disreputable as he is. "La Voce de Aztlan"? That'd be like Bobby Byrd getting support from the "Church of Jesus Christ, Christian", AKA The Aryan Nation.


28 posted on 02/10/2005 11:34:34 AM PST by Bombardier (What part of "Shall not be infringed" is unclear, you liberal moron?)
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To: liberty_lvr
I am just amazed at the amount of publicity this loser continues to stir up - which plays directly into his hands.

The more publicity for this clown, the better in my opinion. The more people that hear about his thought process, the more people that will demand he be fired.

29 posted on 02/10/2005 11:35:43 AM PST by BushisTheMan
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To: syriacus

by
Ernesto Cienfuegos
La Voz de Aztlan

And I am supposed to believe it? Does the name Mary Mapes ring a bell?


30 posted on 02/10/2005 11:37:46 AM PST by BushisTheMan
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To: DaveLoneRanger

"Sorry the image is blurred..."

Did she teach fuzzy logic?


31 posted on 02/10/2005 11:38:58 AM PST by rwa265
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To: Spok

I don't doubt his heritage for a minute. He absolutely looks 100% extraterrestrial.


32 posted on 02/10/2005 11:41:38 AM PST by Uncle Vlad
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To: Bombardier
...as disreputable as he is. "La Voce de Aztlan"?

FWIW, Noam Chomsky has vouched for his academic integrity. :=)

33 posted on 02/10/2005 11:42:39 AM PST by Bob
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To: BushisTheMan; liberty_lvr; sandbar
I am just amazed at the amount of publicity this loser continues to stir up - which plays directly into his hands.

There is certainly a balance between giving attention to kooks who just spout something controversial to get attention, and spreading the word to inform the public (which almost certainly gains public outcry, in this case) that such a nut is being paid by CU to propagandize using this anti-American bilge.

Who is that blonde woman?

Reading my comment would help:

Incidentally, [Ward Churchill] looks like the logic teacher I had trouble with.

Someone then asked "Is that the one that slapped a protestor (you?) at a meeting?" to which I responded "*Chuckles* No, I have yet to have the honor of being slapped by a protestor. She is an avid war protestor who has been arrested for civil disobedience, and who gave me some grief over my political views in class.

You can read about that here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1333796/posts"
34 posted on 02/10/2005 11:44:34 AM PST by DaveLoneRanger (Shhh! Be vewwy, vewwy quiet! I'm hunting WIB-A-WULS! Heheheheheh...)
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To: BushisTheMan
And I am supposed to believe it?

IMHO, the evidence is not adequately verified.

35 posted on 02/10/2005 11:45:29 AM PST by syriacus (Ted Kennedy MIS-learned how to unseat dictators by watching JFK's Bay of Pigs fiasco.)
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To: MikeinIraq
Ever hear of the famous "Grey Wolf" aka. Archie Belaney? This Ward Churchill sorta looks like him.

http://www.virtualsk.com/current_issue/grey_owl_bio.html

36 posted on 02/10/2005 11:46:06 AM PST by concrete is my business ((keep you friends close and your enemies even closer))
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To: Bombardier
Not opening fire.

Thanks. I'm only pointing out what his supporters are writing, not what I believe.

37 posted on 02/10/2005 11:46:59 AM PST by syriacus (Ted Kennedy MIS-learned how to unseat dictators by watching JFK's Bay of Pigs fiasco.)
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To: Bob
Well, if Chomsky vouches for him, then we all KNOW he must be an academic superstar! /sarcasm
38 posted on 02/10/2005 11:47:40 AM PST by Bombardier (What part of "Shall not be infringed" is unclear, you liberal moron?)
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To: mugs99
I saw that movie. I think it was in the late forties or early fifties. Last of the Mohicans?

That was Battles of Chief Pontiac (1953)

39 posted on 02/10/2005 11:50:28 AM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: DaveLoneRanger
Episode from Dr. Quinn, Medicine Woman....
29. The Offering (1/8/94)

Mike and Sully unwittingly aid the U.S. government in giving typhus infected blankets to the Cheyenne then must help fight the disease. Colonel Egan: John Reger.

40 posted on 02/10/2005 11:50:55 AM PST by syriacus (Ted Kennedy MIS-learned how to unseat dictators by watching JFK's Bay of Pigs fiasco.)
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To: Willie Green

ROFL!!!
Looks like the professor gets his "history" from Hollweird B movies!
...


41 posted on 02/10/2005 12:02:11 PM PST by mugs99 (Restore the Constitution)
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To: syriacus
Welcome to the University of Illinois at Springfield
UIS celebrates its diversity with a campus comprised of students and faculty of various ages, backgrounds, and ethnicity.

History: Established in 1969 as Sangamon State University by the Illinois General Assembly. On July 1, 1995, became a campus of the University of Illinois, thereafter known as the University of Illinois at Springfield.


42 posted on 02/10/2005 12:09:38 PM PST by syriacus (Ted Kennedy MIS-learned how to unseat dictators by watching JFK's Bay of Pigs fiasco.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger


CHIEF RUNNING FRAUD

43 posted on 02/10/2005 12:11:18 PM PST by Lazamataz (Proudly Posting Without Reading the Article Since 1999!)
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To: syriacus
Before:

In 1970 Sangamon State University, the smallest of Illinois' 12 state universities, was a different kind of place. Many students were not graded, for example, but received individualized evaluations instead. There were no large classes. No deans or department chairs--in fact, no departments.

Interdisciplinary courses were the norm. Faculty were hired for their interest in teaching--without teaching assistants--and had no publish-or-perish requirement.

SSU was designated "the public affairs university of Illinois" at a time when public affairs, for many of the faculty at least, meant opposing the war in Vietnam and devising alternatives to mainstream institutions.

The Disassembly of Sangamon State University, R. Alex Whitlock
44 posted on 02/10/2005 12:16:55 PM PST by syriacus (Ted Kennedy MIS-learned how to unseat dictators by watching JFK's Bay of Pigs fiasco.)
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To: mugs99
I vaguely remember watching it on TV when I was a kid...
They'd tie their captives to a pole, slit their armpits with a knife, then wrap the smallpox infected blankets around 'em so they'd catch the disease more quickly...
Scared the hell outa me since I was only 7~8 years old.
But I don't remember it being in color, so maybe it was an episode of some TV Western like "Wagon Train" or something.
45 posted on 02/10/2005 12:18:41 PM PST by Willie Green (Or maybe it was because we only had a B&W TV, did you think of that WG???)
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To: syriacus
Source for article on Sangamon State University is From "Radical University" to Handmaiden of the Corporate State, by Ron Sakolsky & Dennis Fox
46 posted on 02/10/2005 12:20:40 PM PST by syriacus (Ted Kennedy MIS-learned how to unseat dictators by watching JFK's Bay of Pigs fiasco.)
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To: alloysteel

CU should fire Ward Churchill for being a Faux Indian.


47 posted on 02/10/2005 12:25:59 PM PST by Grampa Dave (The MSM has been a WMD, Weapon of Mass Disinformation for the Rats for at least 4 decades.)
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To: alloysteel
Anybody that wants to call himself (or herself) an Indian, is an Indian.

I never called myself an Indian, but I taught my kids that they are native Americans.

When my oldest daughter answered native American in some PC social studies class when the teacher was asking kids what nationality they were. The teacher mocked her and said she didn't look like an Indian. She answered with a question.

If the ancesters of the Indians migrated from Asia, and her ancesters, between 3-? generations past, had migrated from Europe, just how long does it take to become a native American?

The class cracked up, and the teacher didn't have an answer.

When asked nationality, I always answer that I am a native American!

48 posted on 02/10/2005 12:29:04 PM PST by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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To: syriacus; Ernest_at_the_Beach; backhoe
Thank you. So this Masshole never got a doctorate degree, and he was in charge of a department at CU!

"Indeed Churchill lacks what are normally considered the minimum requirements for a tenure-track job at a research university: he never earned a doctorate, and his only degrees are a bachelor's and a master's from a then-obscure Illinois college.

MASSHOLE CHURCHILL = FAUX INDIAN AND PHD

49 posted on 02/10/2005 12:29:51 PM PST by Grampa Dave (The MSM has been a WMD, Weapon of Mass Disinformation for the Rats for at least 4 decades.)
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To: syriacus

I just read the article posted on the “The Independent Media Center” website that you provided a link to.

Let’s see if I got this right. An unnamed lab has conclusive proof that Church-ill is of American Indian descent.

I must have missed a bunch of advances in DNA screening. I didn’t know that it could trace your ancestry that close.

I also read The Independent Media Center’s Mission Statement. The first paragraph of reads:

The Independent Media Center is a global network of collectively run media outlets for the creation of radical, accurate, and passionate tellings of truth. We are motivated by a love and inspiration for people who work for a better world despite corporate media's distortions and unwillingness to cover efforts to develop an egalitarian and sustainable society.

Some how I am suspicious.


50 posted on 02/10/2005 12:30:53 PM PST by FMBass (“Now that I’m sober I watch a lot of news” – Garofalo: From “Treason” by Coulter)
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