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Iranian Alert - February 11, 2005 - White House now Supports "Regime Change" in Iran legislation!
Regime Change Iran ^ | 2.11.2005 | DoctorZin

Posted on 02/11/2005 7:12:05 AM PST by DoctorZIn

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People of Iran Draw Backing in Washington

BY ELI LAKE - Staff Reporter of the Sun
February 10, 2005

WASHINGTON - As President Bush ratchets up pressure on Tehran, a member of the Republican leadership in the Senate has introduced legislation supporting Iran's internal opposition.

Senator Santorum, a Republican of Pennsylvania, yesterday introduced the Iran Freedom and Support Act, legislation that commits America to "actively support a national referendum in Iran with oversight by international observers and monitors to certify the integrity and fairness of the referendum." Mr. Santorum, as the chairman of the Republican Conference, is the third-ranking member of the Senate Republican leadership.

The legislation would support the movement in Iran to force a vote that could overturn the theocracy there, which America lists as a top sponsor of international terrorism. The bill would also commit the president to funding pro-democracy forces inside Iran, following in the pattern of amendments inserted into law in the last two years by Senator Brownback, a Republican of Kansas.

Yesterday, President Bush gave a stern warning to Tehran: "The Iranians just need to know that the free world is working together to send a very clear message: Don't develop a nuclear weapon." He said their program was a "destabilizing force in the world."

American diplomats in Vienna yesterday told the Associated Press that votes are being lined up inside the International Atomic Energy Agency for the possibility of taking Iran's violations of the nuclear nonproliferation treaty to the U.N. Security Council. Iran's ruling clerics could avert such a move it they accept a deal from Britain, France, and Germany to abandon their weapons program and freeze uranium enrichment.

Mr. Bush tried a similar approach in November, after nearly two years of negotiations had failed to resolve his concerns about the nuclear program Iran had kept hidden since the mid-1980s. At the last minute, the IAEA gave Iran another extension to continue inspections.

Since then, Iran's leaders have indicated they would not dismantle the centrifuges and reactors America wants destroyed. This week Iran's outgoing president, Mohammad Khatemi, said again that his country would never give up its nuclear program. He insisted its purpose was to provide energy. Iran has the world's third largest reserve of petroleum and natural gas.

Yesterday on Iranian television, Mr. Khatemi said, "Those who have been thumping the drums of war and have launched psychological warfare against Iran must know that the Iranian people will not allow the aggressors to put one foot on Iranian soil."

In recent weeks Mr. Bush has also signaled his support for the Iranian democracy movement. In his State of the Union address last week, the president addressed the Iranian people, saying, "As you stand for your own liberty, America stands with you."

A spokeswoman for Mr. Santorum said that he had coordinated his bill with the White House. Last year, the Bush administration did not support such legislation. "This is a priority for Senator Santorum, this is one of the first pieces of legislation he has dropped in the new Congress," Christine Shott told the Sun. "Our office has worked with the White House in preparation for introducing this bill."

A press release from Mr. Santorum announcing the bill's introduction noted that Iran has "been linked to attacks against American military personnel in Saudi Arabia at Khobar Towers in 1996, and to al Qaeda attacks against civilians in Saudi Arabia in 2004." The senator said the bill "will provide much needed assistance for pro-democracy groups who are committed to advancing democratic ideals and principles despite living at the hands of a government that views freedom as a threat to their power."

Last year the State Department opposed legislation that more explicitly made "regime change" with regard to Iran a policy for America. Mr. Santorum's legislation this year would not make regime change American policy. However, the referendum it supports would likely result in a new government in Tehran.

The legislation this year would also add language that reauthorizes sanctions against American and foreign companies that do business with Iran's oil sector. The bill would end most sanctions against Libya, a country that in 2003 announced its intentions to end its nuclear program. At the same time, it would address a loophole in the current legislation that allows foreign subsidiaries of American companies to do business in Iran without consequence.

The Texas-based oil-services company Halliburton last month announced that its subsidiaries would wind down business with Tehran in the coming months after news hit that the subsidiary, Halliburton Products & Services Ltd., had won a contract to develop a portion of the south Pars oil and gas field.

The Santorum legislation, dubbed the Iran Freedom and Support Act of 2005, authorizes the president to "provide financial and political assistance (including the award of grants) to foreign and domestic individuals, organizations, and entities that support democracy and the promotion of democracy in Iran. Such assistance may include the award of grants to eligible independent pro-democracy radio and television broadcasting organizations that broadcast into Iran."

A Daily Briefing of Major News Stories on Iran:

Iran Vows 'Burning Hell' for Any Aggressor - Reuters

Iran's ambassador to Britain recognizes Iranian security forces killed Kazemi - RSF

N. Korea voices support for Iran, sees closer ties - Reuters

Iran's strategic spot complicates decisions - Reuters News Service



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1 posted on 02/11/2005 7:12:07 AM PST by DoctorZIn
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2 posted on 02/11/2005 7:13:41 AM PST by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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To: DoctorZIn

and now Santorum has thrown his hat into the ring for the Presidency.

I kinda doubt that unless Iraq gets really stable really quickly, our military won't be ready to take on Iran. I like the idea of regime change in Iran, but I dont know if we should encourage the people if we arent ready to back it up with our own military, which is what it may take IMO.


3 posted on 02/11/2005 7:14:52 AM PST by MikefromOhio (Ohio State: The 2005 NCAA Football champions....assuming they arent on probation!!!!!)
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To: Admin Moderator

IT S F'ING BLOG!!!

SINCE WHEN WAS SOMEONES ONE THOUGHT IDEA A WHITEHOUSE PRESS RELEASE????


4 posted on 02/11/2005 7:20:06 AM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: DoctorZIn
Iran Vows 'Burning Hell' for Any Aggressor - Reuters:

does that mean for the people of Iran backing a regime change? Are they considered aggressors?

5 posted on 02/11/2005 7:21:07 AM PST by bored at work (Barack Obama . . . Iraq Osama . . . ?)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican

Bunny, pancake.


6 posted on 02/11/2005 7:30:49 AM PST by MonroeDNA (US OUT of the UN!)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican

?


7 posted on 02/11/2005 7:42:18 AM PST by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR)
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To: bored at work

"Iran Vows 'Burning Hell' for Any Aggressor"....."does that mean for the people of Iran backing a regime change? Are they considered aggressors?"

Of course! However, he was speaking of foreign invaders.
(they've already made life Hell for the people in Iran)


8 posted on 02/11/2005 7:49:22 AM PST by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR)
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To: All

This is the conference DoctorZin is attending. The list of speakers is impressive and varied....................

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9 posted on 02/11/2005 7:53:14 AM PST by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican

What do you object about this post?

It was linked to the story in the NY Sun and is a major development in the war on terror.

You object because I also post a blog?

My blog is the most read source for major news developments on Iran and endorsed by the major experts on Iran who read it daily. Do you mean because I have a blog I should not post to FR, and any news I post is not breaking news?


10 posted on 02/11/2005 8:11:09 AM PST by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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To: RedBloodedAmerican

What blog? It's from the NY Sun.


11 posted on 02/11/2005 8:58:25 AM PST by freedom44
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To: DoctorZIn

Thanks for the ping.


12 posted on 02/11/2005 9:42:33 AM PST by GOPJ (Jacksonville and the NFL did us proud. Thanks for a great show.)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican

are you okay? whats wrong with you?

Dr.ZIn has served us as best as he could since June 2003.

Every body appreciates him and his hard job


13 posted on 02/11/2005 12:59:57 PM PST by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: F14 Pilot

Fine.

Then please link me to the White House press release that states "White House now Supports "Regime Change" in Iran legislation". Thanks.

I don't care if it's Jesus Christ making the post. I'm sick and tired of seeing people say the White House is going to do something that it didn't say it would. Show me where the WH has ever said "regime change" in Iran. Thanks.


14 posted on 02/11/2005 1:35:09 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: RedBloodedAmerican

http://www.google.com


15 posted on 02/11/2005 1:36:03 PM PST by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: F14 Pilot

Okay, I see what you want, and thats fine. Maybe its semantics; but to say "regime change" is not the same as the quote in the article by Santorum. Supporting a vote is different, IMO.


16 posted on 02/11/2005 1:44:06 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: RedBloodedAmerican

That is senate or congress not the white house.

Congress or Senate has to plan some thing first and then ask the white house to take action on the basis of their plans.

So, It is just the beginning my friend.


17 posted on 02/11/2005 1:46:29 PM PST by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: DoctorZIn
Question: I was talking to my confused conservative small business owner friend last night. He said that he was "really scared" about the upcoming war in Iran.

I asked him what he was talking about and he said that the night before (Wednesday) he saw news reports that reported that Condoleezza Rice was saying that we were going to attack Iran.

Now I don't watch alphabet "news", MSM print urnalism, or public radio, but I do get around.

Is my friend delusional (as I suspect), or did I miss something?

BTW: I went ahead and told him that I thought he was nutz...
18 posted on 02/11/2005 1:54:42 PM PST by rockrr (Revote or Revolt! It's up to you Washington!)
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To: rockrr

Well, I would say that odds are that war will be unnecessary with Iran. Not that American troops won't be in Iran soon. Just like American troops were in Indonesia after the tsunami. We weren't waging war against Indonesia. Of course, it has been reported (no, I'm not talking about Seymour Hersh) that US and possibly Israeli special forces have been operating inside Iran for quite some time now (6+ months). We've also been repeatedly invading Iranian airspace in the last several months to test their defenses. No doubt this is the source of the recent rash of Iranian UFO sightings. Nevertheless, we desperately don't want to go to war with Iran.

Condi Rice said that we have no plans to attack Iran - yet. Of course, Europe went ballistic when they heard that. The ironic thing is, Europe may be our best hope to stop a war from starting. So, no, you didn't miss anything.

I would like to say that I am greatly pleased with the progress that has been made since the State of the Union speech. Things are happening, at least outside of the country. And now today there is hope that Iran will get referred to the UN Security Council for sanctions.

The right sanctions will quickly produce regime change. That is, have the US Navy blockade Iranian oil exports. People will say that 40% of the world's oil passes through Iranian ports, and that any interruption will be damaging to say the least to the world economy in the short term. Yes, but it would sink the regime. You can have an inconvenience now, or utter mayhem in the future.

I would be utterly shocked if the UNSC passed such a sanction authorization. China is guarenteed to veto it. Now, theoretically, perhaps NATO could authorize the sanctions. Of course, it'll hurt the Europeans (as if $5 a gallon isn't hurting them already). Can we count of the French this time? I doubt it. They'd lose out again. They make all kinds of money off the mullahs. Faux socialism.

The interesting thing is - if we more or less unilaterally deployed a Navy fleet in interational waters just off Iran's maritime borders. And maybe tightened the blockade up gradually. Many countries would be mad. The sizzling Chinese economy might sputter. Some might consider the blockade an act of war, not the least of which might be Iran. So it could be messy. Today's world is organized more by oil than politics and ideology. But a hydrogen-based economy would flip that alignment on its head.

It basically comes down to this: How much is the freedom of others and your own safety worth?


19 posted on 02/11/2005 6:04:48 PM PST by JWojack (Rice for President in 2008!)
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To: DoctorZIn

PROTESTS IN TEHRAN

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1341555/posts


20 posted on 02/11/2005 6:26:48 PM PST by Khashayar (We are the champions, No time to lose us!)
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To: rockrr

I think Condi has never said the US is gonna attack Iran.

She said we work with the EU to solve this problem through diplomacy


21 posted on 02/11/2005 6:28:49 PM PST by Khashayar (We are the champions, No time to lose us!)
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To: Khashayar; F14 Pilot; freedom44; DoctorZIn; nuconvert; Grampa Dave; MeekOneGOP
A spokeswoman for Mr. Santorum said that he had coordinated his bill with the White House. Last year, the Bush administration did not support such legislation. "This is a priority for Senator Santorum, this is one of the first pieces of legislation he has dropped in the new Congress," Christine Shott told the Sun. "Our office has worked with the White House in preparation for introducing this bill."

QED: The article supports the headline.

22 posted on 02/11/2005 7:33:10 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: rockrr

"I went ahead and told him that I thought he was nutz..."

Good move


23 posted on 02/11/2005 8:04:57 PM PST by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR)
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To: All

Shirin Ebadi, Noble Peace Prize Winner, says she is threatened to death and some intruders broke into her house when she was not home.

BBC reports.


24 posted on 02/11/2005 8:57:52 PM PST by Khashayar (We are the champions, No time to lose us!)
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To: nuconvert; DoctorZIn

Shirin Ebadi complains of Summons and Threats

http://middle-east.news.designerz.com/irans-ebadi-complains-of-new-court-summons-threats.html?d20050211


25 posted on 02/11/2005 9:58:14 PM PST by Khashayar (We are the champions, No time to lose us!)
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To: PhilDragoo; Khashayar; F14 Pilot; freedom44; DoctorZIn; nuconvert

Regime change will be coming to Iran one way or the other.


26 posted on 02/11/2005 11:07:58 PM PST by Grampa Dave (The MSM has been a WMD, Weapon of Mass Disinformation for the Rats for at least 4 decades.)
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To: Grampa Dave

27 posted on 02/11/2005 11:23:40 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: PhilDragoo

Hopefully, this mass murdering masshole will be enjoying the same thrill that Saddam has been enjoying the last year or so.


28 posted on 02/11/2005 11:31:13 PM PST by Grampa Dave (The MSM has been a WMD, Weapon of Mass Disinformation for the Rats for at least 4 decades.)
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To: Grampa Dave

29 posted on 02/11/2005 11:31:23 PM PST by Khashayar (We are the champions, No time to lose us!)
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To: Khashayar

Regime is coming to Iran.

The world will be a better place for Iranians, the Free Iraqis and most of us.


30 posted on 02/11/2005 11:34:14 PM PST by Grampa Dave (The MSM has been a WMD, Weapon of Mass Disinformation for the Rats for at least 4 decades.)
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To: Grampa Dave

I hope so!


31 posted on 02/11/2005 11:37:02 PM PST by Khashayar (We are the champions, No time to lose us!)
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To: PhilDragoo


32 posted on 02/12/2005 4:19:08 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: MeekOneGOP
Coming soon to the Iran theaters! A new GW Bush and company Regime Change.



33 posted on 02/12/2005 6:35:00 AM PST by Grampa Dave (The MSM has been a WMD, Weapon of Mass Disinformation for the Rats for at least 4 decades.)
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To: Grampa Dave
Yeah! :^D

34 posted on 02/12/2005 6:47:52 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: MeekOneGOP

35 posted on 02/12/2005 10:20:44 AM PST by Khashayar (We are the champions, No time to lose us!)
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To: DoctorZIn
This thread is now closed.

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36 posted on 02/12/2005 1:52:04 PM PST by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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To: Khashayar

I can't find any press accounts of the protest in Tehran. But I'll take your word for it that it happened. But if Iranians all over the country started protesting, and maybe even stormed certain buildings in near-unison, that would work. I hope just protests will spread like wildfire. Difficult, yes, but crucial to achieving the most bloodless regime change that you can get.

But I have been seeing multiple press accounts of Iranian exiles staging protests in the last couple of days.

The future seems bright for both the USA and Iran.

If we can just delay the development of nuclear weapons long enough, say, even only a matter of months, it may be good enough.

Consider the case of the Soviet Union. Half a century ago, many thought it was us or them, that a nuclear conflict was inevitable. Now, in hindsight, we see that the Communist system collapsed, and that there was no need for World War III. Still, the Soviets propagated misery around the world, and we now live with the consequences. A nuclear Iran would be far worse and much more destabilizing. We can't keep trying to wait out Iran once it gets nuclear weapons.


37 posted on 02/12/2005 3:52:52 PM PST by JWojack (Rice for President in 2008!)
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