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Edgar Ray Killen Breaks His Silence on 1964 Civil Rights murders
WJTV 12 ^ | 2-11-05

Posted on 02/11/2005 8:12:55 PM PST by WKB

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To: billbears
I was assuming that he was in fact guilty. My mistake

And if he was a probable suspect that the idea that "he is too old" doesn't fly. If his case was brought to trial and he is found guilty , he should face prison time.
51 posted on 02/12/2005 8:13:47 AM PST by LauraleeBraswell (Forgive Russia, Ignore Germany, Punish France - Condoleezza Rice)
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To: billbears
Maybe she is only 18 but I am not and I will tell you mister that the clan was exactly that: A terrorists organization that terrorized blacks and whites also if they showed any sign of helping blacks. You lived in the south? So did many of us live there during the 50s and 60s. We saw what the clan was. It was not a bunch of loonies playing games, it was a bunch of loonies killing, burning, beating and raping, using these tactics to keep the blacks in line. I guess you think that the civil rights workers and guys like Medgar Evens just killed themselves huh? No help from the clan at all, after all they were just a bunch of fun loving boys that liked to dress up in white sheets, right? /sarcasm.

As far as whether this guy is guilty or not, that is up to the jury, but he was charged before and let off with a hung jury. This means they had, and stil have, some evidence against him. I remember the trial, I was alive then and a grown man at the time. I remember reading the evidence and it seemed pretty solid. However, he was released and now is up for trial again. If hes guilty he should pay no matter how old, if not he should be aquitted.

As for the clan, anyone who thinks they were just a bunch of good old boys not doing any harm simply doesn't know what they are talking about, and that includes you.

52 posted on 02/12/2005 8:34:23 AM PST by calex59
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To: billbears
Should we find every gang member whether or not they just joined their group and charge them with every crime committed by other group members whether or not they were involved?

To answer this question: Yes, we should. Anyone who joins a group whose intent is to terrorise using any means necessary to get the job done is as guilty as any other person in the group, because by joining you are giving support to these unlawful activities.

There is a precedent for this in the laws that charge anyone involved in a felony that results in the death of a person with murder.

By the way you sound like a democrat and liberal to me. Only a liberal would think the clan or anyone who joined is just a group of people having a good time with white sheets. They didn't do any of the things they were accused of back in the day did they? Just a bunch of democrats exercising their free speech and their rights to bunch down churches and hang blacks at will and rape black girls with no consequences. Nothing wrong with that as long as it was just some Dems having fun, right?

The clan was, and is, a low life group that was used to terrorise blacks and whites alike so that they would "stay in their place." We all know this and those of us from the south should be the first to admit it.

53 posted on 02/12/2005 8:46:42 AM PST by calex59
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To: calex59
So did many of us live there during the 50s and 60s. We saw what the clan was. It was not a bunch of loonies playing games, it was a bunch of loonies killing, burning, beating and raping, using these tactics to keep the blacks in line. I guess you think that the civil rights workers and guys like Medgar Evens just killed themselves huh? No help from the clan at all, after all they were just a bunch of fun loving boys that liked to dress up in white sheets, right?

I know exactly what it was. Of course some like to blame the South for all the racism issues don't you now? BTW, where exactly are the headquarters for the Klan? And contrary to the SPLC and your distorted view of history, it was not a war zone where none were safe.

I don't think any of the civil rights workers killed themselves. I think they were killed by men that hate. Of course we couldn't find any racially based murders north of the old Confederacy could we? Nope, history books tell us all racially motivated crimes happen South of Virginia. No, they only have bus riots in Boston in the mid 1970s and if that could have been washed over I imagine that would be as well. I never said they were 'fun loving idiots' just idiots. Racist morons that I despise probably more than you ever could for more than a few reasons.

As far as whether this guy is guilty or not, that is up to the jury, but he was charged before and let off with a hung jury. This means they had, and stil have, some evidence against him. I remember the trial, I was alive then and a grown man at the time. I remember reading the evidence and it seemed pretty solid. However, he was released and now is up for trial again. If hes guilty he should pay no matter how old, if not he should be aquitted.

And my point was that he should have a trial by jury and not assumed guilty before innocent. The poster I was responding to did exactly that. But of course with certain individuals convicted of a crime it's easier to do that than live by the rule of law and allow him a fair trial. And if you bothered looking at my statement I said if he was convicted he should face the fullest extent of the law no matter how old he is.

As for the clan, anyone who thinks they were just a bunch of good old boys not doing any harm simply doesn't know what they are talking about, and that includes you.

Matter of fact, I didn't say that either. But good try putting words in my mouth. Those that committed actual crimes in this organization, as in any other organization, no matter how distasteful their beliefs may be, should be charged, given their fair trial, and if convicted, have the punishment meted out. It seems some however would choose to drop the fair trial and assume he is guilty. And anyone that may belong to an organization that has distasteful views should apparently be thrown in jail for good measure just in case. No matter if they actually committed the crime or not.

I am not defending the position of the Klan. I hate the Klan for their racist views, for their ignorance, and for their misusage of flags that I hold dear to my heritage. What I am defending is the rule of law that some choose to forget when they deem the charged guilty without seeing the evidence. Personally, if he is guilty of murder, I don't care how old he is. There is one punishment for premeditated murder in my mind and one only. The death penalty

54 posted on 02/12/2005 9:20:01 AM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: billbears; LauraleeBraswell
LLB is eighteen years old.
Presumably, her comments reflect what she's being taught in school. Pitiful, huh?
55 posted on 02/12/2005 1:14:26 PM PST by onyx ("First you look to God, then to Fox News" -- Denny Crane, Republican...lol.)
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To: onyx
I'm learning about Southern Reconstruction. So there you go.
56 posted on 02/12/2005 1:42:42 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell (Forgive Russia, Ignore Germany, Punish France - Condoleezza Rice)
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To: dixiechick2000; onyx; vetvetdoug; Chapita
During the turmoil, I was living in New York and everyone kept asking me, "your such nice guy, how can you be from Mississippi"?

I then moved to Little Rock and everyone kept asking me, "your such nice guy, how can you be from New York"?

We were in Mississippi for Christmas in 1961 and my father took home movies of blacks and whites playing baseball together and everyone in NY was shocked to see them.
57 posted on 02/12/2005 2:01:45 PM PST by razorback-bert (An ASC-American)
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To: razorback-bert

LOL! You couldn't win, for losing. ;o)


"We were in Mississippi for Christmas in 1961 and my father took home movies of blacks and whites playing baseball together and everyone in NY was shocked to see them."


No doubt they were shocked. I remember how the media
portrayed us at that time, even though I was a child.

That's an aspect of Mississippi that is inconvenient
for some to recognize. And, it's the Mississippi
that I grew up in. Most of the new stories bore little
resemblance to every day life.


58 posted on 02/12/2005 4:10:04 PM PST by dixiechick2000 (President Bush is a mensch in cowboy boots.)
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To: razorback-bert

Posted by dixiechick2000 to razorback-bert
On News/Activism ^ 02/12/2005 4:10:04 PM PST · 58 of 57 ^


Dang! I hate when that happens.


59 posted on 02/12/2005 4:11:26 PM PST by dixiechick2000 (President Bush is a mensch in cowboy boots.)
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Both Dixie Chick and Bill Bear (Deo Vindice) are participants in overtly racist forums, in addition to Free Republic. There, the sneakiness they engage in here is absent. The support for segregation and opposition to racists being tried for their crimes alluded to here is explicit there. In fact, participants in those forums urge contributions to a defense fund set up for Edgar Killen.

Talk of "protecting our Southern heritage" is just a smoke screen for racism. Most "heritage" groups, including the League of the South and the Conservative Citizens Council, are both segregationist and secessionist. The Sons of Confederate Veterans has been influenced greatly by those groups and is pretty close to being white supremacist, too. So, I urge people not to be deceived by the kind of implied racism one sees on threads like this one. You are hearing from people who want to deprive their fellow citizens of their rights, but are being less strident at FR than they are elsewhere.

60 posted on 03/16/2005 2:18:27 AM PST by Jemima Gaines (Because someone should tell the truth.)
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