Posted on 02/12/2005 5:57:23 PM PST by Snapple
Ward Churchill was "a member of the American Indian Movement (AIM) security team at the Pine Ridge Reservation, South Dakota in the early 1970's..."
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I would like to invite people to post information about what these AIM security/Dog Soldiers do to people, especially Indian people.
Taking on Ward Churchill and AIM security/enforcement is not too safe. Some people are now coming forward to the UC Boulder with information about Churchill's activities. This is pretty brave actually.
Good point. Violent, vicious people can be dangerous. Could be some of them ready to act on the discrediting of this phony. What a nutty concept, though. "Admire barbarity! Celebrate a culture too stupid to have a written language or the wheel!"
What is a white guy/anarchist doing as a security/enforcement person on an Indian reservation?
Railing Hell, that's what!
What we have here is a white guy starting a lot of trouble and a lot of Indians getting hurt/killed.
Also, two FBI agents were killed.
Churchill's main mission in life is to discredit law enforcement--FBI, federal and tribal authorities.
A lot of the AIM people were drug dealers and burglars who wanted to discredit the law enforcement at Pine Ridge.
The FBI investigates all serious crime on the reservations, so if you can discredit them then you can have a "reign of terror."
That is a really uninformed thing to say.
Indians are the ones who are exposing Ward Churchill. They are not dumb at all.
It is the Indian reporters who have been exposing Ward Churchill as a phony for years.
"Indian Country Today" notes Churchill's AIM security:
Wrapped intimately with American Indian themes in his writings and lectures, and shielded apparently by his own
American Indian Movement (AIM) security team, Churchill projects the image of the quintessential American Indian activist and/or warrior - angry, defiant, insulting, forceful and accusatory. Churchill sometimes captures the historical truth of a thing, but only to load it like deadly ammunition into his ideological machine gun.
http://www.indiancountry.com/content.cfm?id=1096410293
Author Ward Churchill was arrested and jailed in Chadron, Nebras- ka, en route to Wounded Knee on March 21, 1973.[handwritten underline] He was held for approximately 50 hours on a "routine warrant check,"requested from local police relative to all out-of-state traffic "apparently headed to Pine Ridge" by the FBI on or about March 20. Upon release from jail, he was ordered to drive southward, away from Pine Ridge, and was followed by a Nebraska state police car all the way to the Wyoming line. Of related interest is "Wounded Knee support rally forms," Rapid City Journal, March 17, 1973. p. 3
Keeping in mind that Churchill ALSO claims to have been at Alcatraz when the IATs siezd control of it, and ALSO claims to have been at the BIA offices when they were taken over by AIM in the 1970s...
He is a liar and a fraud. No one remembers him from any of those locations. No one.
Go piss up a rope, hater.
Missing from that is my belief, based on timelines, witness interviews, and other writings I've looked at, recently, and over the years, that he was NOT at Pine Ridge during the incidents...
I would LOVE to know where you are getting this information from... Do you even know what was happenning at Pine Ridge during that period? Could you even begin to comprehend??? Beatings, shootings, "accidents" and destruction of property at the hands of Wilson and his GOONs - Wilson had the support of the CORRUPT Tribal government (which was using the goons to suppress dissent against it's corruption), which had the support of the BIA, which had the support of the f-ing feds...
No, I dont' think you understand what was happening there - I had a distant relative there during that time period who was MURDERED by those goons, and she, along with many others, DIED protecting the people from a corrupt sickening government...
Churchill claims:
"In April I went to Pine Ridge for the first time."
http://zena.secureforum.com/Znet/zmag/articles/dec95barsamian.htm
I dont' buy it.
These are things that happened in the 1920s to the Osage Indians. They were murdered by a man named John Ramsey at the behest of a man named Hale. The Osage called it the 'Reign of Terror."
The FBI solved the case.
The AIM mythology of the Pine Ridge "Reign of Terror" was fabricated based on the FBI files of the Osage Indian Murders. The whole "history" of Pine Ridge's "Reign of Terror" was plagiarized from FBI documents.
I think the white guy "scholar" Ward Churchill did a lot of this plagiarism.
The stuff about suspicious deaths--true of the Osage murders--was faked by AIM based on the true story of the Osage as documented in the FBI files.
AIM used FBI files on the Osage to write a fake history about Pine Ridge. They even copied the sobriquet "Reign of terror" from the Osage Indian Murders.
White anarchists did this to the Pine Ridge Indians.
For an accurate record of the Pine Ridge events see
http://www.noparolepeltier.com
Nothing on that site disputes what I said - What happened at Pine Ridge in teh 1970s, with 60+ indians killed (most deaths never investigated, nor anyone punished, by the way)...
The FBI didn't "solve the case". They solved ONE case - the death of one of THEIR agents. They solved the death of the White Man who died, and completely ignored the deaths, injuries, beatings, assualts, and such of the indians. I guess AIM went door to door, shooting a 6-year old in teh eye so they could say "it happened! Really! See?" and killed all those people just to pretend there was a reign of terror, right? Get real.
FBI solved the case, my butt.
If you read the book by Laurence Hogan called the "Osage Indian Murders" you will recognize that the "history" of the Pine Ridge "Reign of Terror" is plagiarized from the FBI file of the Osage Indian Murders of the 1920s.The book is based on the FBI files of the Osage murders.
The killer of the Osage was named John Ramsey. That may ring some bells for you because it happens to be the name of the little girl JonBenet Ramsey who was murdered in Boulder.
The killers signed themselves "Victory! S.B.T.C"
This is a clue. http://www.sbtc.net is the Internet provider for Mount Rushmore. I don't have to tell you that AIM bombed Mt Rushmore and so it is a very symbolic place.
After JonBenet's murder, AIM activist and Leonard Peltier lawyer, Lee Hill, ran a disinformation campaign to influence the investigation. He claimed that the FBI was protecting a powerful ring of pedophiles. This is the same type of lie that AIM spread at Pine Ridge--that the FBI were protecting criminals.
In Boulder, AIM pulled another Pine Ridge. If the PIne Ridge folks and the Boulder folks compare notes, they will all see what AIM is doing to their communities.
I have a lot on the operation AIM ran in Boulder.
Lee Hill's role is the most obvious. He had to flee Boulder before his trial for assault on his wife and weapons violations. He had a lot of guns, knives, and what appear to be burglar tools.
All those deaths were investigated. Check the Minneapolis FBI. They have the records and have posted a lot.
Google FBI+minneapolis+pine+ridge
Read the Osage Indian Murders. All the stuff that "happened" at Pine Ridge is plagiarised from those FBI files.
Yes. The White anarchists did that. They wanted to sow distrust between the Indians and the FBI.
You can get the Hogan book on the Osage Indian Murders from Amazon.
The FBI file is on the Internet but is hard to use.
Google osage+indian+fbi
I will find it and post it.
You will really see that the "history" of Pine Ridge is made up from the FBI file on the Osage Indian Murders.
Now who could the liar and plagiarist be??
The "FBI solved the case" refers to the Osage killings.
Ward Hill was one of the AIM security/enforcers at Pine Ridge.
He caused a lot of trouble. And blamed the FBI.
Ward Churchill had nothing to do with Pine Ridge, nor in making up the stuff about Pine Ridge... What happened at Pine Ridge, although with some similarities to the Osage events, are two distinctly different events, with two different causes, two different sets of protagonists, and two different outcomes... Get it? White Anarchists were not responsible for Pine Ridge - The FBI/BIA/GOON/AIM were responsible...
AIM Enforcers? Wrong term to use, with regards to Pine Ridge - AIM was, for the most part, strictly defensive - the GOONs, well, they were "enforcers"...
http://www.freepeltier.org/fbi_pine_ridge_report.htm
This is about the investigation of the 57 "suspicious deaths" AIM alleged at Pine Ridge.
Read the Osage FBI file.
Or the Laurence Hogan book called The Osage Indian Murders.
The "history" of Pine Ridge is plagiarized from that.
I guess I'm confused, but Churchill's resume at Colorado states that he was a student at Illinois Central and Sangamon from 1970 to 1975. Seems odd that the Dog Soldiers or even AIM would have been interested in him. And how did he manage to do everything he said and get a Masters? I realize that it wasn't hard to get a degree from Sangamon, but it still seems strange that he would have been involved in things in South Dakota while at school in Illinois.
You mean all these cases?
We use the Roman alphabet. I have studied a bit of Arabic. Their is totally different.
Otherwise I agree that this poster disparages Indian people.
If people whould read Indian writers on the subject of Churchill, they would not be so surprised. I like http://www.indiancountry.com
The lady writer Suzan Shown Harjo, lthey would learn a lot.
http://www.indiancountry.com/author.cfm?id=26
Have you read it? Provide me with this proof that the events at Pine Ridge are plagiarized from it...
http://www.freepeltier.org/fbi_pine_ridge_report.htm
Here is the report on the deaths.
Yes. I have read through the FBI report and the book.
Thank you.
You write
"Author Ward Churchill was arrested and jailed in Chadron, Nebras- ka, en route to Wounded Knee on March 21, 1973.[handwritten underline] He was held for approximately 50 hours on a "routine warrant check,"requested from local police relative to all out-of-state traffic "apparently headed to Pine Ridge" by the FBI on or about March 20. Upon release from jail, he was ordered to drive southward, away from Pine Ridge, and was followed by a Nebraska state police car all the way to the Wyoming line. Of related interest is "Wounded Knee support rally forms," Rapid City Journal, March 17, 1973. p. 3"
You claim this is proof Churchill wasn't at Pine Ridge.
By your own evidence Churchill was trying to get to Pine Ridge. He claims he was there in April. I think it is reasonable to think that if he wanted to go to Pine Ridge he might have tried again.
Sounds like the FBI already thought Churchill posed a risk if they stopped him.
I agree with your sentiments.
Yes, they thought he was a risk, and anyone else trying to get to Pine Ridge was treated the same way... I just don't buy him being there in any serious capacity as he claims - he's made so many other false claims about "I was there, man" that I have a hard time buying it in this instance, either.
That school was some sort of radical alternative school then.
The other poster above cited a source that the FBI turned Churchill away from Pine Ridge in March.
I am prepared to accept that, and it shows he was trying to go to Pine Ridge.
Churchill also claims he was at Pine Ridge. Probably he waited a bit and went back to Pine Ridge in April as a member of AIM security.
The Indian reporters say that when he speaks he is surrounded by AIM security. I believe this is typical of Churchill.
I especially love the ones that say "The coroner said they died of exposure, so we didn't investigate..."
Of course, this is the same coroner who, upon examining a body that was found (Anna Mae's) wrote up the death as "Exposure"... then, when she was dug up a little while later, they THEN noticed the bullet hole at the base of her skull, and the bullet lodged in her cheek... This only came about because pressure was put on for a second look by her family.
Had there not been a second look, well, she'd have just been another indian who froze to death...
So, do I trust all the conclusions reached in those "investigations"? Not hardly, and I have perfectly valid reasons for the lack of trust...
You, on the other hand, seem to have some issues of your own, and I wonder exactly what they are...
Yes, it's typical, but it's Colorado-AIM, not A.I.M. itself - two separate entities.
I don't think the Romans conquered Saudi Arabia which is where the Arabs were then. All those "Arab" countries weren't Arab during the Roman Empire.
The Arab expansion came later.
Next, you'll be blaming A.I.M. for 9/11...
Sigh.
Oh my goodness.
The coroner messed up with her. He was reportedly sick and died soon after.
Check that FBI file.
Read the Hogan book and look at the Osage FBI file.
It will just hit you like an epiphany that you are reading about Pine Ridge--except that you aren't.
I sort of feel like I have spoiled it for you by telling, tho.'
I was pretty mad when I realized the enormity of AIM's big lie.
Keep buying the media and government line - they own you, hook line and sinker. I'll read the book one day, if I ever get around to it, but for now I'll continue to go by what I know from experience, family, and friends - people I trust implicitly, and whome I believe - regardless of their political beliefs.
You can read all the books you want about "radical indians", "A.I.M", and other topics, but until you actually know the people, places, events, and have the life experience to know where the truth is, well, you'll keep coming up with sick crap like blaming AIM and Ward Churchill for Jon Benet's murder...
I mean, we all want Ward Churchill to face the music, but damn...
This guy's entire life has been one big lie, it would seem. A legend, a fantasy that he created for himself.
On his employment application at CU, where he invoked Affirmative Action and claimed to be a Native American, he also claimed that his wife was "full-blood Santee".
She appears to be Japanese...
What a phony!
His wife was an indian, that much I know, but he himself is a fraud.
Yeah.
Pssssssssst! It was Sequoyah...
I have more. You need to look at all the news reports about what Lee Hill was doing. It took me months.
I have a ton on this. Basically he brought forward this woman client who claimed that she was abused by a ring of pedophiles around John Ramsey's and his friend Fleet White. Lee Hill made a big deal about how the FBI wouldn't protect his client from the pedophiles so AIM hid her.
Then, while she is hidden from "dangerous pedophiles" he has a reporter over to see where she is and report about how the FBI won't protect her so AIM is hiding her.
If you are hiding someone, do you call the papers???
He had other clients try to influence the Grand Jury that a gang of pedophiles was operating in Boulder.
When the investigation didn't find any pedophile rings--this was seen as proof of a cover up.
It was all the FBI's fault.
You really have to make a study of what Lee Hill did. He didn't represent his clients, he was using them for his agenda of discrediting the FBI and police.
When I read about the Osage I really flipped when I saw the name of the killer was John Ramsey. That is also the name of JonBenet's father.
I think the choice of this family was a wierd little allusion to the Osage case. Also the signature on the ransom note. SBTC
As noted, http://www.sbtc.net is the Internet for Mount Rushmore. If you're some AIM nut it doesn't get any more symbolic than that.
These kind of killers often have some private symbolism that drives their crime.
It was my mistake. Whoever Googled her up on another thread was confused -- and with good reason.
There is another Natsu Saito. And she is also a J.D. She, too, teaches at an American university, UCLA. And she is Japanese.
Almost too many coincidences there to be believed...
Psssttt... by the way, does the Hogan book mention that not only was the FBI's investigation rather unsterling, and overall mostly unsuccessful (only 3 convictions, out of several dozen murders - there were far more people involved than just those 3), but that the agency also billed the Indians for the investigation that yielded so little?
Do you write fiction for a living? So, let me see if I have this right - Some Indians, ticked off at mount rushmore, kill the child of some guy and leave a note that says " SBTC " which is Mt. Rushmore's domain name?
What if SBTC stands for "Socialists Baking Tollhouse Cookies"? I mean, come on... are you gonna blame "radical Indians" for every spotlight crime of the century, based on some stupid book you read?
Natsu Saito is his CURRENT wife. His old wife was Dora-Lee Larson...
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