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Iraq Winners Allied With Iran Are the Opposite of U.S. Vision
The Washington Post ^
| Monday, February 14, 2005
| By Robin Wright
Posted on 02/13/2005 10:17:48 PM PST by F14 Pilot
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To: F14 Pilot
Hi F14 Pilot. Thanks for all the pings. I'm trying to catchup.
I've learned to ALWAYS take note of who is giving me the news. Remember this is the notorious Robin Wright. Remember her? The promoter of reformer, smiling, Gorbechuv-mullah Khatami. Disregard everything she says. Time always proves these dimwits wrong.
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posted on
02/13/2005 11:43:50 PM PST
by
parisa
To: xm177e2
Check out Juan Cole's looney lefty blog sometime. He was bemoaning the Iraqi elections until he figured out a way where he could make them look bad for Bush. It's really sad, because whatever other expertise the man has gets gobbled up in his utter hatred of the administration.
To: xm177e2
"There will be no turbans in the government,"
I was "discussing" this with someone from my church at a party when he said "Now Bush just got us another ayatollah in Iraq".
I explained to the guy that Sistani is a religious leader, but is also into separation of the church and state. But, the new constitution will be put together in view of their faith - but not under "sharia law" (sp?). I said: much like our founder fathers - they want to base the rules of their country on the rules of their faith. And I think (hope) that because the various factions have to ratify the constitution, it will need to be a fair contract. It may not be easy - just like our Constitution wasn't easy with all of the various states, etc. (Wasn't it Thomas Paine who refused to go to the continental congress saying "I smell a rat"?)
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posted on
02/13/2005 11:58:14 PM PST
by
geopyg
("It's not that liberals don't know much, it's just that what they know just ain't so." (~ R. Reagan))
To: parisa
Actually I have been following her books and articles on Iran and I know what she has done!
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posted on
02/14/2005 12:07:19 AM PST
by
F14 Pilot
(Democracy is a process not a product)
To: F14 Pilot
Would these be the same leaders who fought an 8 year war with Iran ? Someone at the post needs to do a little 80's history studying.
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posted on
02/14/2005 12:23:25 AM PST
by
John Lenin
(Moral decay is running rampant and good people do nothing)
To: John Lenin
I doubt Iraqis ever want to invade another countries again
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posted on
02/14/2005 1:06:30 AM PST
by
F14 Pilot
(Democracy is a process not a product)
To: Howlin
Well, the Post is verifying that we did not rig the election.
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posted on
02/14/2005 1:08:47 AM PST
by
R. Scott
(Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
To: caspera
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posted on
02/14/2005 1:09:31 AM PST
by
R. Scott
(Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
To: F14 Pilot
Of course, the Post isn't
spinning anything or outright distorting facts in an attempt to make the U.S. efforst in Iraq look like a bad thing.
They would never do that, would they?
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posted on
02/14/2005 1:11:29 AM PST
by
Allegra
("They Just Love to Walk in the Middle of the Road!")
To: F14 Pilot
She should be sent to college again!
Would it do any good the next time around?
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posted on
02/14/2005 1:11:41 AM PST
by
R. Scott
(Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
To: F14 Pilot
The Washington Post is turning into a grocery store rag. Didn't Rummy just nail them in a lie or exaggeration last Sunday ? I guess credibility means nothing to a newspaper anymore as long as you remain loyal to the RAT party.
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posted on
02/14/2005 1:11:56 AM PST
by
John Lenin
(Moral decay is running rampant and good people do nothing)
To: F14 Pilot
Oh why didnt we just leave the noble savage Saddam alone ....Im sure after he had taken a few billion $ and helped Osama and his friends kill a mill people he would have listened to reason... now we have to deal with that horrid democracy stuff ...woe is me.
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posted on
02/14/2005 1:25:51 AM PST
by
woofie
To: F14 Pilot
Is it a quagmire yet? Is it a quagmire yet?
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posted on
02/14/2005 6:03:56 AM PST
by
cdrw
(Freedom and responsibility are inseparable)
To: F14 Pilot
"Author can not understand the basic values of freedom and democracy and freedom to choose. "
Democracy does not inherently lead to a positive outcome, Hitler was democratically elected for instance. Hugo Chavez was recently elected in Venezuala.
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posted on
02/14/2005 11:14:23 AM PST
by
optik_b
(follow the money)
To: mhx
This is what was most feared by Brent Scowcroft and other's who advised against the rush to war. Now that Iran is close to having nuclear weapons, I wonder where the new Shia dominated Iraq will position itself.
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posted on
02/14/2005 11:40:13 AM PST
by
optik_b
(follow the money)
To: okie01
The Washington Post
, as is its wont, has failed to inform you that a major tenet of the Shi'a faith is the separation of church and state. The spiritual leader of the Iraqi Shi'a, al-Sistani has made that very clear.Doesn't seem to have stopped him from getting involved in politics, though.
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posted on
02/17/2005 10:32:29 AM PST
by
inquest
(FTAA delenda est)
To: inquest
Doesn't seem to have stopped him from getting involved in politics, though. Well, yes, it has.
Unsurprisingly, he lent his support to the UIA ticket. But don't we have bishops and preachers freely expressing their political preferences in America, too.
And he himself is not running for office, nor has he expressed any interest in a government position. Plus, he has vocally promoted the concept of separation.
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posted on
02/17/2005 11:41:33 AM PST
by
okie01
(A slavering moron and proud member of the lynch mob, cleaning the Augean stables of MSM since 1998.)
To: okie01
Unsurprisingly, he lent his support to the UIA ticket.Which is now running the show, pretty much.
But don't we have bishops and preachers freely expressing their political preferences in America, too.
For the most part they confine themselves to particular moral issues, like abortion and same-sex "marriage". In any case, none of them have the influence that he has. Recall that the elections themselves were his idea. Our plan was to have their constitution drawn up by an appointed committee, but he issued a fatwa insisting that there should be elections, and got his way. He is definitely a big player.
And he himself is not running for office, nor has he expressed any interest in a government position. Plus, he has vocally promoted the concept of separation.
His concept of separation is very different from ours. It only means that religious leaders don't directly assume office. It does not mean that they don't get heavily involved, as his actions amply demonstrate.
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posted on
02/17/2005 2:00:53 PM PST
by
inquest
(FTAA delenda est)
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