Posted on 02/14/2005 11:54:50 AM PST by vivabushchick
Valentine's Day Rally in Annapolis
Featuring Maya Marcel-Keyes, daughter of Alan Keyes and a self-described young queer anarchist who grew up in Darnestown, MD. Maya is speaking publicly for the first time about LGBT issues. Dont miss this important rally at 5 p.m. in front of the state house on February 14, also featuring Judy Shepard and other community leaders.
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Valentine's Day Rally in Annapolis
Featuring Maya Marcel-Keyes, daughter of Alan Keyes and a self-described young queer anarchist who grew up in Darnestown, MD. Maya is speaking publicly for the first time about LGBT issues. Dont miss this important rally at 5 p.m. in front of the state house on February 14, also featuring Judy Shepard and other community leaders.
Maybe she should run for the U.S. Senate in Illinois. Probably do better than her father. /semi-sarcasm
Why do so many prominent conservatives have gay sisters or daughters? It sparks my curiosity.
Maya is speaking publicly for the first time about LGBT issues.
Im mad at my parents and I dig other chicks. Thank you and goodnight.
Why are there log cabin republicans? Why don't they just call themselves libertarians at the least.
Many conservatives oppose the amendment as well. We feel it is a States' Rights issue.
A form of rebellion?
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ROFL!!
I wonder whether these Log Cabin Republican guys would agree that it makes quite a bit of difference whether the logs in one's cabin are going or coming...
Yep. I believe it is also.
Confusion about your gender has a tendency to spill over to other areas of your life.
I am reminded of tales from the great crossings of the pioneers where wagons, horses and settlers would all bog down on the steepest of grades and every shoulder available was put to the wheel to get over that mountain, the lame, the women, the frail and elderly and the young alike; once on the otherside all were eager to leap onto the wagon for the ride downhill but only the more able were quick and strong enough to climb aboard before the next grade caught them up in one great tumble.
"Many conservatives oppose the amendment as well. We feel it is a States' Rights issue."
I agree.
"Many conservatives oppose the amendment as well. We feel it is a States' Rights issue."
Dick Cheney, being a prominent example.
Blzbba, being a completely unprominent example.
I wonder why we haven't heard anything about a "gay" Kennedy?
So a person could be married in Maryland but not Texas, for example?
They aren't supporting her because she's a radical, they're supporting her because she's a homosexual who's been wronged by a Republican father.
The Log Cabin Republicans organization does not just exist to support gay Republicans, it exists for gay Republicans to support the issues they feel are important: in this case, familial acceptance. It's a sad day when a father casts out his daughter for an innate characteristic.
It would be pathetic if the LCRs did not stand up for Keyes just because she's not a Republican. They aren't arguing for societal acceptance of gay Republicans, they're arguing for societal acceptance of gays.
Some states allow marriage of 16-year-olds, others require the parties to be 18. Does that mean there is something fundamentally illegitimate about states deciding age of consent issues?
Oh my. A lot of issues here.
Seems like there's more than one issue with respect to "gay marriage:" not only the pros and cons of "gay marriage" itself, but the issue of who decides. The courts, the states, the Constitutional amendment process.
I have posted my thoughts on the issue here before. I just don't have the energy to do it again today. I do believe, though, that by no stretch of the imagination is "limiting" marriage in the current manner constitutes discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation or whatever. Men and women are different. Equal, but not identical. I don't know of any legislation which can change that. If the people decide to create a new or different definition of marriage or civil unions or whatever, that's one thing. Court action is another. IMHO.
Wow The Log Jammers could just jump ship and cost us Reps the next election!~}
Interesting point. I believe in some states it may be as low as 14, with parental consent. I'm not sure.
But I am fairly certain that a couple validly married in State A will still be considered married in State B even if the marriage could not have been legally performed in State B in the first place.
I dunno, I read that Carolyn Bessette used to call John-John "Fag." (I really did, I read it)
It aint cheap buying all that makeup, nice clothes, going partying, etc.
They need low taxes.
Yes. I don't know if this is because the states are required to under the "Full Faith and Credit" clause of the Constitution, or if it's because they just choose to.
The DOMA (Defense Of Marriage Act) signed by Bill Clinton addresses this issue directly. If one state allows gay marriage, other states are not required to recognize those gay marriages.
If they aren't a man and a woman, yes, I would say that's correct.
These Log Cabin RINOs didn't support the reelection of Prez Bush.
I've met with some log cabin republicans before. We did a joint event with the gay/lesbian group on campus (which is very liberal). The LCRs were conservative on almost every other issue and agreed overwhelmingly with us. In fact, they were telling the gay students why they should support the Iraq war. In my opinion, the entire gay community should not be forced to be liberal.
Do they need anymore freaks wierdos and politicians in that family?
I dont think its so many as much as the media trying to point out some sense of false hypocrisy against conservatives. How often did you ever hear about Dick Gephardts homosexual daughter?
By any chance was that the one dubbed, " The Band Wagon"?
He didn't support them either.
What, Anarchy?
Better get that flame suit on.
1) Who are you to say that Alan Keyes must condone behavior in which he does not believe? Because he won't. Period.
2) Who are you to say that acting out homosexually is an innate characteristic?
I'm guessing you're a gay homosexual man yourself.
"The DOMA (Defense Of Marriage Act) signed by Bill Clinton addresses this issue directly."
But it seems to me that the Full Faith and Credit clause will trump congressional legislation. That's why I think DOMA will ultimately be declared unconstitutional.
I think marriage is certainly a state's rights issue, but in this case, if marriage is to be protected, I think a Constitutional amendment is the only way to do it.
I do believe it's the Full Faith and Credit Clause that forces states to recognize marriages from other states. I'm not sure either, unfortunately.
I wonder what happened in the days of poligamy in the US, before the federal government's decades-long campaign to stamop it out in the late 19th century?
I think the fear is that DOMA will be found unconstitutional somehow.
I think you answered my question (see #37). thanks.
Hmmm, two words are probably debateable: "Wronged" and "innate". Also, 'societal acceptance of gays' is a very loose term.
Have you ever seen their web site? Change a couple of words around and it looks like any other cookie cutter Leftist dump.
They are Infiltrators, nothing more. At what point do we cave in and start admitting the abortionists and race baiters and Appeasers under a "Big Tent"?
Homosexuality is an innate characteristic now? What about all those ex-gays that have changed their "innate characteristic". What about all the prominent psychologists and psychiatrists that say change is possible? What the hell are you doing on FreeRepublic PROMOTING SUCH GARBAGE.
You guessed wrong. You don't get any points for creativity.
Why are you so obsessed with homosexuality in others? Is it because in fact, you yourself are a deeply repressed homosexual? Do you, in fact, think about sweaty, hairy, manly men all day long? That's probably it.
No, I don't really think that. But it's easy to turn those sort of stupid ad hominem arguments around.
1) Who are you to say that Alan Keyes must condone behavior in which he does not believe? Because he won't. Period.
When did I say he "must" condone it? I said it's wrong for him not to do so. He isn't compelled by law, but he's still a jerk for it.
2) Who are you to say that acting out homosexually is an innate characteristic?
Homosexuality is an innate characteristic. "Acting out" homosexuality is no different from acting out heterosexuality.
This is like claiming stutterers are morally culpable, and that we should draw a distinction between a person having a predilection to stutter, and a person who stutters when they talk. It makes no sense. People are who they are, and they will act on that which makes up their identity.
If the actions associated with their identity are abominable (such as for certain sex criminals) then perhaps people with that identity should be destroyed or imprisoned. Certainly after they commit a crime, they should be. But that's certainly not the case for homosexuality, there is nothing abominable about homosex between consenting adults.
"This is like claiming stutterers are morally culpable, and that we should draw a distinction between a person having a predilection to stutter, and a person who stutters when they talk."
First it was the race card. Now the speech-impaired. Get a grip man!!!
"Is it because in fact, you yourself are a deeply repressed homosexual? Do you, in fact, think about sweaty, hairy, manly men all day long? That's probably it."
I'm reminded of Ron White's bit about how everyone is a little bit gay. Might not be suitable for all present company though.
The evidence that humans have a prediliction for homosexuality due to genetics is weak at best. Homosexuals and their supporters want to believe it so that they are not forced to conclude that gay sex is unnatural. I agree, engaging in unnatural sex is every American's right. But that doesn't mean society has to accept it.
Many psychologist say that sex is part of an innate survival mechanism, how is that served by gay sex?
"Confusion about your gender has a tendency to spill over to other areas of your life."
Yes. The homosexual has a inherent disordered mind to go along with his perverted sexual behavior.
If you could take a minute from your homosexual agenda could you please prove homosexuality is "innate"?
Whoops can't, thought so. Go pedal your propaganda somewhere else.
You mean like the f@ggot John Paulk who lied when he said he wasn't gay anymore? He had to step down as chairman of the board of an "ex-gay" organization because he was spotted in a gay bar. These people never change. They are what they are.
They're like ex-alcoholics--there's no such thing. Alkies can stop drinking, and gays can stop sodomizing, but that doesn't mean they've fundamentally changed anything about themselves, only the way in which they behave. In the case of alcoholics, recovery is commendable; not so for gays.
Interesting metaphor, but I don't get it.
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