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Audience stays away from star-studded Grammys
AP ^ | 02/14/05 | AP

Posted on 02/14/2005 6:10:59 PM PST by Pikamax

Audience stays away from star-studded Grammys Associated Press

NEW YORK — From J.Lo to James Brown, Usher to U2, the Grammys had it all this year -- except a lot of interested viewers.

An estimated 18.8 million people watched Ray Charles' swan song clean up with eight awards Sunday night, a startling 28 per cent drop from the 2004 Grammys. After two years on an upswing, Grammy ratings sunk to their lowest level since 1995, according to Nielsen Media Research.

It may be an ominous sign for the granddaddy of awards shows, the Academy Awards, Feb. 27 on ABC.

People at CBS and elsewhere in the industry were somewhat perplexed by the numbers on Monday, given that the show was jam-packed with performances and star power.

"This was the show to beat in terms of how it was produced," said Shari Anne Brill, a television analyst for Carat USA. "It was just great. It wasn't about someone handing out awards. It was about performances. Viewers who didn't tune in missed a treat."

The Grammys, which has a long history of being derided as the Grannies within the music industry, even drew an endorsement from one of pop's potentates. "I think this is the best Grammys we've ever seen," U2 lead singer Bono said as the group accepted an award toward the show's end.

It was a continuation of a recent Grammy trend of minimizing awards presentations and maximizing live performances.

While there were misfires, such as the cacophonous opening number where several acts briefly played different songs all at once, there were plenty of thrills. Alicia Keys' smouldering If I Ain't Got You, Kanye West's resurrection, the duet between Usher and Brown and songs by Green Day and U2 all come to mind.

CBS spokesman Chris Ender noted last year's show benefited from Janet Jackson's Super Bowl fallout. Controversy sells.

Brill agreed: "Don't you think if Michael Jackson did a duet with someone with his trial going on, more viewers would have come?"

ABC is also much more competitive. Desperate Housewives had more viewers than the Grammys in the same time slot on Sunday, Nielsen said. But there was little evidence that many people switched over to the Grammys when Desperate Housewives was done.

Charles' big win could have been a hindrance, too. While a music legend, his best work may have been a mystery to many young viewers. Since he died last June, viewers were denied heartwarming scenes of him basking in the glory.

It continues a trend of less-than-stellar ratings for awards shows.

The Emmys last fall had its smallest audience ever. The Golden Globes last month had its fewest viewers since returning to broadcast television in 1996, down a whopping 10 million people from 2004. The 12.9 million people who watched the American Music Awards in November was a distant echo of the 48 million who tuned in two decades ago.

"I'm wondering if there are so many awards shows that they have lost some of their specialness," Brill said.

The Academy Awards, frequently the year's second-highest-rated entertainment event after the Super Bowl, usually considers itself immune from such outside factors. But big-box office films tend to juice the ratings and the Oscars haven't approached the 55 million who watched when Titanic won in 1998. This year has no dominant film.

Host Chris Rock may draw in the curious, particularly with his unique brand of promotion. The Internet's Drudge Report on Monday was circulating excerpts from a recent Entertainment Weekly interview where Rock said, "What straight black man sits there and watches the Oscars? Show me one!"

ABC has been more aggressive promoting an event that usually sells itself.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: culturewars; grammys; hollyweird; music
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1 posted on 02/14/2005 6:10:59 PM PST by Pikamax
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To: Pikamax
Viewers who didn't tune in missed a treat

I didn't tune in, and now I'm just SO DAMN DEPRESSED :)!

2 posted on 02/14/2005 6:13:25 PM PST by hillary's_fat_a**
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To: Pikamax

"I'm wondering if there are so many awards shows that they have lost some of their specialness," Brill said.

Nope. Just slowly but surely losing their relevance.


3 posted on 02/14/2005 6:14:35 PM PST by Skwid
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To: Pikamax

Normal people are sick and tired of the rich and depraved people who think they are stars ...


4 posted on 02/14/2005 6:16:38 PM PST by af_vet_1981
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To: Skwid





There are far too many famouse people.



5 posted on 02/14/2005 6:17:30 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell
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To: Pikamax

people are probably to tired from working to look at overpriced junk


6 posted on 02/14/2005 6:18:22 PM PST by Flavius ("... we should reconnoitre assiduosly... " Vegetius)
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To: Pikamax

The Grammys: A vomitous circle-jerk amongst the self-annointed "important" people in the Los Angeles entertainment industry who positively affect my life less than the guy who picks up my garbage on a weekly basis.


7 posted on 02/14/2005 6:19:45 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: LauraleeBraswell

These award shows are filled with nothing more than people who keep living their senior year of high school over and over again.

Proms...
Cliques...
Superlatives...
Rumors...
It's all there.

We are all simply the geeks who stay at home on Friday nights wishing we could be as popular and cool.


8 posted on 02/14/2005 6:21:28 PM PST by Skwid
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To: Pikamax
"I'm wondering if there are so many awards shows that they have lost some of their specialness," Brill said.

(rimshot)

9 posted on 02/14/2005 6:22:57 PM PST by niteowl77
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To: Skwid

You are so correct! I never thought of it that way. These guys are giving the same speech they prepared for the hope of being elected Homecoming Queen or Prom King. What a bunch of losers.


10 posted on 02/14/2005 6:23:15 PM PST by GianniV
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To: Pikamax
Gosh, how could I miss Hollywood congratulating itself? Again, I mean.

I couldn't sit through it if I tried. When they choose to snub movies like the Passion of the Christ they prove that the awards are politically motivated, and therefore not based on the art of acting or directing.

11 posted on 02/14/2005 6:23:18 PM PST by passionfruit
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To: Pikamax

Hopefully soon these so called stars will wake up and realize that the general public just don't care who they are or what they say.

So shut up Hollywood and quit pushing your stupid political views down our throats...or pay in the end when all of America quits seeing your stupid movies and quits buying your stupid albums!!!
















12 posted on 02/14/2005 6:24:22 PM PST by No phonys allowed
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To: Pikamax

Most of these people just put out music that I wish I'd never heard. Why should I want to watch them pat themselves on the back for it?


13 posted on 02/14/2005 6:24:31 PM PST by claudiustg (Go Sharon! Go Bush!)
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To: Pikamax

It may be an ominous sign for the granddaddy of awards shows, the Academy Awards, Feb. 27 on ABC.




Ya think?


14 posted on 02/14/2005 6:24:34 PM PST by Mears ("Call me irresponsible".)
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To: Pikamax
"Audience stays away from star-studded Grammys Associated Press"

They're all outside admiring the Bush "Thank you, hOlLyWoOd" Billboard.

15 posted on 02/14/2005 6:24:43 PM PST by utahguy (Ya gotta kill it before you grill it: Ted Nugent)
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To: GianniV

All you have to do to see how silly it all is, is to watch one of those rumor-mongering shows like Entertainment Tonight. The premise of that show is Hollywood in a nutshell.


16 posted on 02/14/2005 6:25:32 PM PST by Skwid
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To: Pikamax

The music industry would do itself a big bahooma if it would take a hammer & blowtorch to every computer involved in the recording process and get back to relying on talent.


17 posted on 02/14/2005 6:26:48 PM PST by whereasandsoforth
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To: Pikamax

The American people aren't buying into Hollyweird/music industry self congratulation shows like they used to. The thrill is gone.


18 posted on 02/14/2005 6:28:04 PM PST by dennisw (Qur’an 9:3 “Allah and His Messenger dissolve obligations.”)
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To: SpaceBar
LOL

Well said!

19 posted on 02/14/2005 6:29:13 PM PST by maine-iac7 (...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time - LINCOLN)
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To: Pikamax
Maybe it's just me, but wasting an evening watching a bunch of people who hold me in open contempt gushing over how important and special they all are isn't real high on my list. The Oscars will do better than they might if the audience had a self-righteous sermon from Michael Moore to look forward to, but he is far from the only one. Green Day was proof of that.
20 posted on 02/14/2005 6:29:42 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: SpaceBar
LOL

Well said!

21 posted on 02/14/2005 6:31:20 PM PST by maine-iac7 (...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time - LINCOLN)
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To: Pikamax
IMO all these award shows are just a mutual admiration club for the special people to strut and preen in front of one another.
22 posted on 02/14/2005 6:31:42 PM PST by suzyq5558 (This space is reserved for the next round of liberal silliness.)
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To: Pikamax

The movies and recording stars used to be mysterious and "special". Now they're just a bunch of idiots mouthing off all the time. Who wants to watch them?


23 posted on 02/14/2005 6:33:14 PM PST by McGavin999
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To: vikingchick
I happened to flip over to the Grammy's and realized the commie crew (Black-Eyed Peas) were signing then, Eve and Gwen Stefani singing a horrible song ('If I were a Rich Girl'....) in some kind of asian inspired pirates of the carribean set wearing skirts/dresses/scarves so short the world was their gynecologist....I said....that's it for me.....LOL!!!!

Gonna make sure I have to knit a sweater or tune my car on Academy Award night......hehehe...

24 posted on 02/14/2005 6:34:26 PM PST by BossLady ("Don't call me Babe......" ~~ Barb Wire)
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To: Pikamax

They do not have a clue. I and thousands of others have turned off our TV's permanently except as a monitor for video games or an occasional good movie or football game. That is IT. It is never on.

Not only is it trash, but I make a conscious decision NOT to watch it anyway so as not to support Hollywierd and the big businesses who prostitute themseves as advertisers at the alter of greed.


25 posted on 02/14/2005 6:35:19 PM PST by Indie (Ignorance of the truth is no excuse for stupidity.)
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To: Pikamax

Well, the Oscars could have nominated "The Passion of The Christ", but no....

That would have been the only thing that would have caused me tune in and ONLY if it won as it deserved.

The problem with the award shows is that they aren't heros. We have a number of insiders congratulating insiders. The heros are in Iraq, Afganistan, across our globe fighting to defend this country. Heros are those that serve honorably here at home with little glory whether they be cops, fire fighters, parents raising their children with strong values keeping the country moving with unremarkable jobs that attract little thanks.

When you toss in celebrities that disrespect the "little people", their country, their values and their chosen representatives why bother watching? The escapist glamour is lost.


26 posted on 02/14/2005 6:36:53 PM PST by Soul Seeker
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To: hillary's_fat_a**

We didn't have to watch. We had FReeper reports.


27 posted on 02/14/2005 6:37:57 PM PST by doug from upland (Ray Charles --- a great musician and safer driver than Ted Kennedy)
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To: Pikamax

I would suggest a name change if they want to increase viewership. Instead of the "Grammy Awards" they change the name of the show "The Bro's and Ho's Awards".


28 posted on 02/14/2005 6:38:22 PM PST by cabbieguy ("I suppose it will all make sense when we grow up")
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To: Pikamax

I didn't watch but while I was changing stations, I saw some guy singing in Spanish.

It was very bizarre.

My thought at that moment was that I couldn't believe anyone in Middle America would feel comfortable watching this.

It was just too foreign and out of place.

I didn't stay tuned for any rappers. Maybe they were the highlight. I'll never know.


29 posted on 02/14/2005 6:44:11 PM PST by twas
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To: cabbieguy

Amen to that, well said! Bro's and Ho's awards,,,,lmao!


30 posted on 02/14/2005 6:44:22 PM PST by rockabyebaby (What goes around, comes around!)
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To: Pikamax

ps. J.Lo sucked.


31 posted on 02/14/2005 6:46:58 PM PST by maggief
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To: SpaceBar

That is simply the best and most complete definition I have ever read.


32 posted on 02/14/2005 6:48:09 PM PST by Anvilhead
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To: Pikamax
"I'm wondering if there are so many awards shows that they have lost some of their specialness," NO, when you stop making trashy movies that have no morale value, and keep your political views to yourself I may start going to your movies again!
33 posted on 02/14/2005 6:59:33 PM PST by SweetCaroline (My soul wait thou only upon GOD, for my expectation is from him. Psalm 62:5)
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To: Anvilhead

Why would someone waste precious time to watch overpaid, over-hyped, over-dressed, under-dressed, cross-dressed, untalented, arrogant, coked-up Leftists parade themselves in front of the cameras and tell each other how great they are?

Yuck.


34 posted on 02/14/2005 7:06:47 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Freedom. Brought to you by the grace of God and the Red, White and Blue...)
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To: Pikamax

"It may be an ominous sign for the granddaddy of awards shows, the Academy Awards..."

Yes, and the movies nominated are no big shakes either. I've got no interest in it this year.


35 posted on 02/14/2005 7:11:47 PM PST by jocon307 (Vote George Washington for the #1 spot)
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To: Pikamax

The simple fact that they've given the the impeached ex-President two Grammies for best spoken-word tellls me all I need to know about the whole stinkin' mess.

I watched a few minutes before getting nauseous and turning to the Westerns Channel for some relief.


36 posted on 02/14/2005 7:14:38 PM PST by jwfiv
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To: Pikamax
CBS spokesman Chris Ender noted last year's show benefited from Janet Jackson's Super Bowl fallout. Controversy sells.

Poor CBS. They seem to believe in the formula: "Controversy sells."

But last night, they offered none.

And thus, they lost viewers.

Looks like they themselves are at fault, but since this is CBS, which is the same company that keeps Dan Rather around, they won't blame themselves for their own failures.

37 posted on 02/14/2005 7:22:47 PM PST by Vision Thing
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To: Pikamax
This year has no dominant filmthat was nominated.

Let's say what is really on viewer's minds...

38 posted on 02/14/2005 7:25:14 PM PST by Maigrey ("... I will stand in front of the box to put my heart in it." - Mohammed from Iraq the Blog)
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To: Pikamax
None of my students watched. They all had the Nets game on (or something).

TS

39 posted on 02/14/2005 7:25:34 PM PST by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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To: hillary's_fat_a**
"Don't you think if Michael Jackson did a duet with someone with his trial going on, more viewers would have come?"

You know . . . you see this kinda stuff in quotes, but you can't actually believe they say this stuff - let alone think it!
40 posted on 02/14/2005 7:26:05 PM PST by Bear_Slayer
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To: dennisw

Maybe "the thrill is gone" because so many of these self congratulatory stars have decided to take up politics pushing as a second career and have exposed themselves to their fans as the shallow idiots they really are.


41 posted on 02/14/2005 7:27:32 PM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: Pikamax

Did any of you see Mr Richard Betts? Dicky looks real bad, but he sure can play. And The Blind Boys of Alabama were a treat, it wasn't all bad.


42 posted on 02/14/2005 7:28:43 PM PST by AlbertWang
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To: twas

I saw that scene and thought it was horrible because J.Lo was awful, truly awful. However, why would 'middle America' be put off by people singing in another language? They don't have opera there?


43 posted on 02/14/2005 7:31:13 PM PST by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: freeangel

Tonight I am watching the Westminster Kennel Club. The dogs are well-goomed, happy, and do not give obnoxious speeches. Great TV!


44 posted on 02/14/2005 7:31:38 PM PST by Miss Marple
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To: Pikamax
"I think this is the best Grammys we've ever seen," U2 lead singer Bono said as the group accepted an award toward the show's end.

There's an unbiased opinion for ya.

45 posted on 02/14/2005 7:32:38 PM PST by lewislynn (The meaning of life can be described in one word...Grandchildren)
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To: Miss Marple

I was just following that thread myself. No doubt about it--they have a lot more personality than most "stars" these days.


46 posted on 02/14/2005 7:33:56 PM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: Skwid
"people who keep living their senior year of high school over and over again"

That's it! I've thought that for years, just couldn't find the right words. I knew them in highschool, I just want to forget them now.
47 posted on 02/14/2005 7:35:44 PM PST by pepperdog
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To: Pikamax
When you nominate a slate of films that of which none have passed the $100 Million Dollar mark, "The Aviator" is the leader and it has only grossed $75 Million, most of which the public hasn't seen and probably won't till it hits DVD there is nothing to grab the public.
There are really no compelling stars that have been nominated, except for Clint Eastwood and maybe Morgan Freeman, no one really has stars they care about that much.
Given that almost everyone of these awards shows are down rather dramatically in viewer ship I expect the Oscars to be down also.
Chris Rock looks as though he may be a grenade thrower but I don't think he's going to help the Oscars much.
Whatever magic they used to have is long gone and has been.
48 posted on 02/14/2005 7:38:31 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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To: freeangel

Definitely that's part of it. Living and fighting and dying in Iraq is more real to me than any Hollywood stuff .... which rarely entertains me anymore. Anyhow I know 95% of the plot turns and twists by now.


49 posted on 02/14/2005 7:40:26 PM PST by dennisw (Qur’an 9:3 “Allah and His Messenger dissolve obligations.”)
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To: whereasandsoforth
The music industry would do itself a big bahooma if it would take a hammer & blowtorch to every computer involved in the recording process and get back to relying on talent

THE SPIRIT OF RADIO

Words by Neil Pert.

Begin the day
With a friendly voice
A companion, unobtrusive
Plays that song that’s so elusive
And the magic music makes your morning mood

Off on your way

Hit the open road

There is magic at your fingers
For the spirit ever lingers
Undemanding contact
In your happy solitude

Invisible airwaves
Crackle with life
Bright antennae bristle
With the energy
Emotional feedback
On a timeless wavelength
Bearing a gift beyond price ---
Almost free...

All this machinery
Making modern music
Can still be open-hearted
Not so coldly charted
It’s really just a question
Of your honesty

One likes to believe
In the freedom of music
But glittering prizes
And endless compromises
Shatter the illusion
Of integrity

For the words of the profits
Are written on the studio wall,
Concert hall ---
Echoes with the sounds...
Of salesmen.

50 posted on 02/14/2005 7:40:32 PM PST by Bear_Slayer
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