Posted on 02/15/2005 1:19:18 AM PST by JohnHuang2
Eventually, yes.
Eventually, yes.
I'm not overly skeptical, it's just the lawyer coming out in me.
Bottom line: I don't fully accept the "official" story, but there's not enough there at this point to accept any alternative theory.
True. Certain evidence is not available to the public.
BTW. I do not mind you having a skeptical attitude towards the missile/bomb theories. I am always looking for proof, no matter what it confirms. Your skepticism is what encourages me to dig further into research.
So, Thank You.
As far as finding parts of the missile, IIRC, the Navy conducted the search, and the strictest security was invoked on that search, and anything 'found' by citizens.
If, and I agree, it is still a big if, the US Navy, or any of the other nationalities Navies, that were there conducting exercises on that day (it is a matter of record) and some rule of Murphy's law escaped the control of mortal human beings, and the test missile went off course, and an anti-missile was sent to destroy it, and it arrived too late, and both hit the jetliner,
Do you think the NAVY would reveal what they discovered on the ocean floor? Especially if they had the consent of the President of the US not to reveal it?
Thanks for the book, but I have read it.....Still not impressed.
Me? I am not proffering theories without a shred of real evidence. The type of coverup that this conspiracy would entail hundreds of individuals from the military, the FBI, and the NTSB. Even if you could shut them up then, I cannot see these folks taking this to their grave, unless they felt that it warranted it. If you had FBI agents hovering over you and telling you what to, and more importantly what NOT to say, you might resent it. If you KNEW that it was wrong on about a hundred levels, you might just leak out the evidence of it in about 10 years.
10 years have come and gone and nothing.
I provided information that showed there was a company(there were many more references) and the name of the CEO was confirmed.
Now you claim that it has since disappeared from the face of the Earth, because of your inability to find any info on it.
You claimed you could not find ANY info on them to begin with, so your credibility is kinda low with me at the moment.
At least now you are looking and providing some kind of documented verification.
Were you to prove in this manner that the CEO was in a mental ward, and was found to have made up the story, I would be very congratulatory.
This is why I can't get into this. Non Sequiturs, Straw man arguments, misdirection, tangents. Been there, done that. Got the T-shirt.
I will not follow you down one rabbit hole after another. Either you got something (like evidence), or you don't. You can spin these stories into a nice package, but at the end of the day, you got squat.
Can you cite the EO that Clinton signed?
Also, I was not aware that members of the military can even HAVE whistleblower status. Can you cite where you know this little nugget of information from?
Does the HDNet exist? Does Mark Cuban?
I cannot see these folks taking this to their grave, unless they felt that it warranted it.
If you were one of the small group of military personnel who knew what went wrong, and how, and revealing the info to the public would compromise national security, and damage the military in the public eye, even though it was an accident, a fatal one, but was unpredictable and almost unpreventable (unless tests were done out to sea where the unavailability of 'friendlies' made the test worthless), would you stay loyal to the Navy, to your commanding officers, or would you spill the beans?
By the FBI, which was put in charge to ensure that the proper 'findings' were made, and any contrary evidence or testimony were to be re-investigated until they no longer existed.
You tried to claim he did not exist and neither did his business, and that now he and it have disappeared off the face of the Earth.
I say you are wrong, that is all, and the proof is out there.
PS, Trust me, I didn't start out trying to make you look bad in this. It just worked out that way.
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Evidence of a Missile
A Sweep by Sweep analysis of the radar data clearly depicts a plume of very high velocity metal exploding out of the aircraft's right side at approximately 20:31:13. The lead ejecta almost certainly has to be a missile body! With the aircraft on a heading of 071 degrees True, this radar contact separated laterally from the aircraft track on a ballistic trajectory of 190 degrees True, traveling about 3,200 feet in less than 7 seconds. This 119 degree change of direction and high velocity could not possibly have been the result of a Center Wing Tank explosion.
This is not theory or speculation, but hard physical evidence. It takes almost 2 seconds for a bullet fired from a military sniper rifle to travel that distance. Only a missile body, with it's hundreds of thousands of foot pounds (ft/lbs)* of kinetic energy would have the inertia to perform this way on radar. It only takes 6,000 ft/lbs of energy for a 50 caliber heavy machine gun bullet to punch through 3/8 inch thick steel plate. Boeing 747's are constructed of various aluminum alloys and rarely in thickness' exceeding 1/2 inch.
With this much energy, the missile body would slice through the aircraft "like a bullet through a tin can", just as I stated in my April 24, 1997 letter to the Wall Street Journal, in response to Chairman Hall's "It wasn't a missile" letter to the same paper. It is startling to note also that the trajectory of the ejecta (missile body & other parts) is on a direct line from an unidentified boat, 2.9 nautical miles to the Northeast of Flight 800 when it exploded.
The NTSB had compiled a statistical analysis of the eyewitness evidence in the Witness Group Factual Report: Exhibit 4A, which included the following findings:
"102 [eyewitnesses] gave information about the origin of the streak. Six said the streak originated from the air, and 96 said that it originated from the surface."
Without fanfare on March 11, 1997 President Clinton signed into law Executive Order 13039. That week in history missile theorists went public , the FBI confiscated an independent investigator's copy of an FAA radar tape AND was seeking another investigator for questioning.
Executive Order 13039 specifically provides for "Exclusion of the Naval Special Warfare Development Group From the Federal Labor-Management Relations Program". This program provides a mechanism for workers to report wrongdoing without fear of reprisal.
Are you now aware that they are? Maybe there are other things you are not aware of?
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