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To: AliVeritas

Actually I think we are well served to observe the prophecies of the Bible, and Nostradamus.

To some extent I think some of Nostradamus' predictions could be equated to chance or desire to fulfill a prophecy rather than the acuracy of the prediction, but it is still worth noting, if only for amusement.

I can tell you this much, if M Abbas dies soon, you will see these believers absolutely freak out. There are several other Mabus candidates (Nostradamus gave us Napolon Roy -Napolean King and Hister - Hitler). Saddam, Usama B, MAsonBUSh, and others are also prime candidates. If you play with the letters enough they will fit, which is also interesting in itself.

I think Bush is an unlikely Mabus candidate... but I'm keeping my eye on him, just in case!


15 posted on 02/15/2005 4:47:04 AM PST by Reform4Bush
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To: Reform4Bush
if M Abbas dies soon

He won't die...he will receive a fatal head wound, but will miraculously recover if he is truly Mabus. And the drum beats for his assassination have begun, he has already survived one attempt. Not a believer in Nostradamus, just have a morbid curiosity on the subject : )

34 posted on 02/15/2005 6:24:20 AM PST by ravingnutter
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To: Reform4Bush
"...you will see these believers absolutely freak out. ...I think Bush is an unlikely Mabus candidate... but I'm keeping my eye on him, just in case!"

Yawwwwn. "Freaking out" is commonplace among religious KOOK zealots on the left and the right (two sides of the same coin).

Boiled down to their essence -there are only two religions in the whole world.

41 posted on 02/15/2005 7:05:01 AM PST by Matchett-PI (Forget "Republican" or "DemocRAT" - Is Jesus a "Moral Relativist"?)
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To: Reform4Bush
Here... keep your eye on these predictions too:

"Your Horoscope For Today"
By Weird Al

Aquarius
There's travel in your future when your tongue freezes to the back of a speeding bus
Fill that void in your pathetic life by playing Whack-A-Mole seventeen hours a day

Pisces
Try to avoid any Virgos or Leos with the Ebola virus
You are the tru Lord of the Dance, no matter what those idiots at work say

Aries
The look on your face will be priceless when you find that forty pound watermelon in your colon
Trade toothbrushes with an albino dwarf, then give a hickey to Meryl Streep

Taurus
You will never find tru happiness - what you gonna do, cry about it?
The stars predict tomorrow you'll wake up, do a bunch of stuff, and then go back to sleep

That's your horoscope for today (that's your horoscope for today)
That's your horoscope for today
That's your horoscope for today (that's your horoscope for today)
That's your horoscope for today

Gemini
Your birthday party will be ruined once again by your explosive flatulence
Your love life will run into trouble when your fiance hurls a javelin through your chest

Cancer
The position of Jupiter says you should spend the rest of the week face down in the mud
Try not to shove a roll of duct tape up your nose while taking your driver's test

Leo
Now is not a good time to photocopy your butt and staple it to your boss's face, oh no
Eat a bucket of tuna-flavored pudding, then wash it down with a gallon of strawberry Quik

Virgo
All Virgos are extremely friendly and intelligent - except for you
Expect a big surprise today when you wind up with your head impaled on a stick

That's your horoscope for today (that's your horoscope for today)
That's your horoscope for today
That's your horoscope for today (that's your horoscope for today)
That's your horoscope for today

Now you may find it inconceivable or at the very least a bit unlikely
that the relative position of the planets and the stars could have
a special deep significance or meaning that exclusively applies to only you,
but let me give you my assurance that these forcasts and predictions
are all based on solid, scientific, documented evidence, so you would have
to be some kind of moron not to realize that every single one of the is absolutely true.

Where was I?

Libra
A big promotion is just around the corner for someone much more talented that you
Laughter is the very best medicine, remember that when your appendix bursts next week

Scorpio
Get ready for an unexpected trip when you call screaming from an open window
Work a little harder on improving your low self-esteem, you stupid freak

Sagittarius
All your friends are laughing behind your back (kill them)
Take down all those naked pictures of Ernest Borgnine you've got hanging in your den

Capricorn
The stars say that you're an exciting and wonderful person, but you know they're lying
If I were you, I's lock my doors and windows and never never never never never leave my house again

That's your horoscope for today (that's your horoscope for today)
That's your horoscope for today
That's your horoscope for today (that's your horoscope for today)
That's your horoscope for today

That's your horoscope for today (that's your horoscope for today)
That's your horoscope for today
That's your horoscope for today (yay yay yay yay yay)
That's your horoscope for today

48 posted on 02/15/2005 7:44:23 AM PST by 70times7 (An open mind is a cesspool of thought)
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To: Reform4Bush; newsgatherer; SheLion

A discussion of eschatology ("End Times") like this is bound to stir up controversy in or out of the Church.

I sometimes wonder if it might be one of the most contentious areas of practice and doctrine within the fellowship of those of us who gather under the collective banner of "Christianity".

Although I am not ready to go around with a sandwich board over my shoulders proclaiming "Repent, ye fools; The end is near!" or any such foolishness, I do from time to time, in comparing Biblical prophecy to current events, get a strong sence of "imminency", as a soldier might as he marches towards the sound of battle.

Regardless if Christ returns to judge the quick and the dead tomorrow Morning or in another couple of thousand years;

These sure are interesting times to be alive in!

As to the "Antichrist", which I assume you allude to under title "Mabus" (please enlighten me as to where that term comes from? I'm not at all familiar with it);
Theories abound, including a particularly bizzare, yet compelling one that J.F. Kennedy has been kept clinically alive in a secret room of the Dallas TX Hospital since his asassination - or was long enough for his body to be cloned, anyway.

Raised in secrecy, (by the same bunch who fly those black helicoptors around and remotely scan our brains, we may suppose) the clone will at some point be introduced as the "saviour" of society. Since JFK essentially had his brains blown out by Oswald (we assume) that would fit the "miraculous" survival of the fatal head wound. And he was a Catholic, which would fulfill the theory held by some that the Prophetic "Beast" represented the Roman Empire, continued on through the millenia by the Roman Catholic Church, with the lineage of Ceaser having been taken up by the Papacy.

But the cloned body of JFK will be inhabited by a malevolent spirit; perhaps that of old Beelzebub himself, who is more than able to pull off a bunch of "supernatural" and very impressive stunts and project all sorts of weird illusions.

Let's see; How long ago was cloning developed to the point that a human body could be reliably cloned?
And how old would such a clone be about now?

Got your tin-foil helmet securely on by now?

Anyway; stuff like that makes interesting material for dime novels and such - but as far as the exact time or details of the fulfilment of end times prophecy, I think that our Lord was pretty clear about that; We are to be ready "in season and out of season", stay the course as best we can, and let the Master work out the details.

But it also seems that we were given a few clues as to what to be on the lookout for; Believers have thought that they recognized such indicators many times before throughout History, only to be embarrassed when their predictions of doom failed to materialize.

Apparently most if not all of the Apostles were convinced, at least for a while there, that it would happen during their Earthly lifetimes.

But observe; the orchestra seems to be warming up, and although the stage has been veiled by a curtain of mystery since ancient times, and through the tiny gaps between the veils very few have peeped... I often think that I see the curtain twitch a little, as if the guy backstage holding the rope is getting a little antsy for the performance to begin.

Did you see that??!

I think the theater lights are beginning to dim just a little...


55 posted on 02/15/2005 8:27:20 AM PST by Uncle Jaque (Vigilance!)
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