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Rangel Blasts Clinton as 'a Redneck'
Newsmax ^ | Feb 15th, 2005

Posted on 02/15/2005 8:39:59 AM PST by missyme

Rep. Charlie Rangel is blasting ex-President Bill Clinton as "a redneck" after New York Sen. Hillary Clinton refused for the second year in a row to support his bill to help the mother of police shooting victim Amadou Diallo stay in the country

"I don't have the slightest clue who Hillary really is," the dismayed Harlem Democrat tells New York Magazine this week. "All I see is a gal who knew she was as good as anyone else, and she saw this guy she could make something of, so she forfeited Illinois and went to Arkansas."

Rangel then added, "That's a hell of a move to make for a redneck, which is all he was."

Asked if he really thought Clinton was a redneck Tuesday morning, Rangel told WWRL Radio's Steve Malzberg and Karen Hunter, "Of course he is. He's from Arkansas."

Later in the interview Rangel tried to backpedal, telling Malzberg he thought the Clintons were "terrific people."

"You have to remember, you know, Lyndon Johnson was one of the best presidents we had and he was a redneck out of Texas," he explained.

The congressman's non-pejorative pejorative comes just days after Sen. Clinton stiffed him on the Diallo case, a move the New York Post described on Monday as "a slap in the face to Charles Rangel."

Without Sen. Clinton's help, Rangel's legislation to grant Kadiatou Diallo and her family permanent resident status crashed and burned in the 2003-04 Congress and has attracted no other support this year.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: clinton; rangel; rednecks; rerun
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1 posted on 02/15/2005 8:40:00 AM PST by missyme
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To: missyme

already posted.


2 posted on 02/15/2005 8:41:41 AM PST by HMFIC (Fourth Generation American INFIDEL and PROUD OF IT!)
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To: missyme

Maybe it was the cocaine that attracted her.


3 posted on 02/15/2005 8:42:12 AM PST by thoughtomator (If Islam is a religion, so is Liberal!)
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To: missyme

wow Rangel is on a roll

first challenging Eason Jordan's vile innuendo that the US military was targeting journalists and not changing his story in the aftermath

and now dissing Hill and Bill, could he be nearing retirement?


4 posted on 02/15/2005 8:43:36 AM PST by littlelilac
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To: missyme

black america needs less politicians and more real leaders.


5 posted on 02/15/2005 8:44:07 AM PST by sodiumodium
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To: missyme
Rep. Charlie Rangel is blasting ex-President Bill Clinton as "a redneck"

What bothers me here is the free pass....What happens if Bill fires back by calling Charlie the "N" word...?

6 posted on 02/15/2005 8:44:56 AM PST by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you don't have to" ;)
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To: missyme

Rangel has no idea what 'redneck' means.

But, then Rangel is mostly an ranter anway.


7 posted on 02/15/2005 8:45:15 AM PST by TomGuy (America: Best friend or worst enemy. Choose wisely.)
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To: missyme

The new unashamed discourse of the Rats. He should just call Clinton a "cracker" and be done with it.

Then Clinton can put on his Afro wig and sax and start using the N-word like all the other bro's.


8 posted on 02/15/2005 8:45:32 AM PST by angkor
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To: HMFIC

Charles Rangel is a racist for using that kind of language when describing the former President. Rangel has been a loose cannon for decades. This just proves it beyond any reasonable doubt


10 posted on 02/15/2005 8:46:05 AM PST by wmileo
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To: hobbes1

He would be Flogged....


11 posted on 02/15/2005 8:46:32 AM PST by missyme (imho)
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To: missyme

I looove this stuff!


12 posted on 02/15/2005 8:47:10 AM PST by Mears ("Call me irresponsible".)
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To: sodiumodium
"black america needs less politicians and more real leaders."

"America" needs less politicians and more real leaders of any color.

13 posted on 02/15/2005 8:48:36 AM PST by blaquebyrd
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To: TomGuy

Clinton isn't Redneck, he is white trash. Rangel is a Yankee, and can't tell the difference.


14 posted on 02/15/2005 8:49:09 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER
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To: missyme
Let's see, Amadou Diallo was an illegal immigrant selling illegal knockoff wares.

He'd lived in America for a couple of years, but didn't learn enough English to identify the words "stop" or "police".

So, in an unfortunate misunderstanding fueled by his criminal past and refusal to learn English, he died.

His parents came to retrieve his body and decided that they liked the media celebrity the press and the Black Establishment gave them so much that they decided to illegally overstay their visas.

Now they demand that they be allowed to live in the US permanently and collect Social Security even though no one in the Diallo family ever paid a cent into the fund.

Bill Clinton, no fool he, decides that championing the cause of these gravedancing scam artists would not be the best press for his wife's publicity as a "centrist" Democrat.

Charles Rangel, a fool indeed, thinks that can throw around terms like "redneck" and still help his party's chances.

As a Republican, I am delighted he is a Democrat.

15 posted on 02/15/2005 8:49:14 AM PST by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: missyme

Must be another plant to burnish Hillary's "moderate" credentials. LOL!

But seriously, I really like Steve malzberg but can't stand to listen to his new show. I miss him on WABC, but those days are gone. i still wonder what happened. I'll have to search here when I have time.


16 posted on 02/15/2005 8:50:23 AM PST by cvq3842
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To: missyme

What a terrible insult to all real Rednecks....


17 posted on 02/15/2005 8:51:21 AM PST by Victor
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To: missyme

So now we have a New York yankee blasting the Clintons? Hillary, you can cry if you want to, but its not your party anymore.


18 posted on 02/15/2005 8:52:20 AM PST by SF Republican
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To: TomGuy

What is a redneck? I grew up on a farm. We worked outside all day long, and I would get sun burned on my neck. I thought this was the qualification for being a redneck: A white man who worked hard for his money.

He uses the term "redneck" like it's a bad word. I wonder how he would feel if Hillary called him a "dirty f*g or a slick Ni**er". I sure he wouldn't like it, but maybe someone should ask him just to make sure.

Holtz
JeffersonRepublic.com


19 posted on 02/15/2005 8:53:13 AM PST by JeffersonRepublic.com (The 51st state is right around the corner.)
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To: missyme

OK, who is the gutter rat Rangle working for now?? That back alley scumbag is carrying out someone's agenda, certainly not his own. Hitlery, a redneck?? Sorry Charlie -- she is a viscous, power-mad, hard-core socialist who is totally unqualified to be in politics, let alone the presidency.


20 posted on 02/15/2005 8:54:47 AM PST by EagleUSA
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To: blaquebyrd

"America" needs less politicians and more real leaders of any color.

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Also true. I just happened to be thinking of a conversation I had with someone about the NAACP. Much of what they say these days doesn't even relate to civil rights or advancement of african americans - but just seemingly democrat rhetoric.


21 posted on 02/15/2005 8:56:35 AM PST by sodiumodium
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To: wideawake
"Charles Rangel, a fool indeed, thinks that can throw around terms like "redneck" and still help his party's chances.
As a Republican, I am delighted he is a Democrat."



Oh, the gift that is truly continuing to give.
Imagine a snotty NY uber liberal calling people from Arkansas "rednecks" in the public press.

I couldn't have wished for it, because I wouldn't have ever thought of it.
22 posted on 02/15/2005 8:57:00 AM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: missyme; Admin Moderator

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23 posted on 02/15/2005 8:57:12 AM PST by mhking (Do not mess with dragons, for thou art crunchy & good with ketchup...)
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To: missyme
As a card carrying redneck (and proud of it) I take offense to this statement. Clinton is anything BUT a REDNECK!!! A REDNECK IS and I quote:

"Redneck dates to 1830, when it was first used to denote the Presbyterians of Fayetteville, Georgia. But it wasn't until 1893 that the term was used in the modern sense of a poor, white farmer or laborer. The significance of the name is somewhat obscure. Three explanations are commonly offered. First, it could be a reference to a ruddy neck caused by anger. Second, it could be a reference to sunburned necks caused by working in the fields all day. Finally, it could be a reference to pellagra which turns the neck red. The original reference to Presbyterians may be to poor, Scotch-Irish farmers that was later expanded to a larger economic class."

I never knew Clinton KNEW HOW TO WORK. Shirk I'm sure, screw around and philander definitely. But Clinton is NOT a redneck and to call him one is a deadly insult to honest working people everywhere.....
24 posted on 02/15/2005 8:57:34 AM PST by SouthernBoyupNorth ("For my wings are made of Tungsten, my flesh of glass and steel..........")
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To: missyme

WOW...a racist remark about somebody in your own party. Yikes.


25 posted on 02/15/2005 8:57:41 AM PST by Hildy ( To work is to dance, to live is to worship, to breathe is to love.)
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To: wideawake

Thank you simply laying that out. What gives the Diallo family the right to jump in line ahead of millions of other people waiting to get in legally?


26 posted on 02/15/2005 8:59:47 AM PST by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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To: wideawake

One thing I never heard was exactly how long the incident took. We heard "41 shots" over and over, but I have never run across the amount of time that eleapsed from the time the police yelled "halt" to the time the shooting stopped. I assume it was a very, very short time, partly bacause four officers were firing at once. And partly because I never heard the approximate time frame reported. Whatever.


27 posted on 02/15/2005 9:01:56 AM PST by cvq3842
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To: SouthernBoyupNorth

Personally, I don't consider what most attorneys actually do, qualifies as "work."

Clinton wouldn't know what work was unless he was thrown in jail and forced to do some hard time.


28 posted on 02/15/2005 9:01:59 AM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: Victor

Not sure what a redneck is either. But having been once to the NASCAR race at Talledega, I can attest that most of them live in Indiana.

Semper Fi,


29 posted on 02/15/2005 9:05:17 AM PST by 2nd Bn, 11th Mar (Sniper: "One shot, one kill". Machinegunner: "One shot, one kill...again, & again & again".)
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To: KC_Conspirator
Since when did illegal immigration ever take a back seat to anything legal?

Don't you understand that it your duty to allow them in, and for you to work very hard all your life to support these scum, and anyone else who decides to step foot on American soil, legal or not?

What are you, a Capitalist??? 8^)
30 posted on 02/15/2005 9:06:42 AM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: missyme
a redneck

Charley owes all rednecks an apology -

rednecks are real people

and then there's white trash, a whole 'nuther category

31 posted on 02/15/2005 9:09:32 AM PST by maine-iac7 (...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time - LINCOLN)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

"Clinton isn't Redneck, he is white trash. Rangel is a Yankee, and can't tell the difference."

You nailed that one!


32 posted on 02/15/2005 9:09:35 AM PST by RKV ( He who has the guns, makes the rules.)
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To: missyme

Is it legal for black folks to use the R-word?


33 posted on 02/15/2005 9:11:00 AM PST by Lexington Green (Follow the money - Saddam to Rich to Clinton)
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To: missyme

.....cat fight!....cat fight!!!


34 posted on 02/15/2005 9:12:58 AM PST by smiley
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To: cvq3842
"Must be another plant to burnish Hillary's "moderate" credentials. LOL!"

Of course it is. Virtually every lamestream story through 2008 involving Hillary will follow this pattern. I'm not sure I see the reason for the LOL, though. The press is already starting what will be a HUGE push to make Hillary look moderate. It will be like nothing we have ever seen before. They will do everything within their power to make her president. The "swing" voters are vulnerable to this kind of media activity because they vote mostly based on vague impressions (which they form from casual exposure to the lamestream media) since they don't pay consistent attention to politics.

I am scared of what the press will do for Hillary. They tried hard to make both algore and Hanoiboy attractive, but they will turn themselves inside out for Hillary, and they are starring now!.

Hillary devotees are the kind of people who simply cannot let Hillary lose no matter what they have to do.

35 posted on 02/15/2005 9:13:51 AM PST by Irene Adler
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To: missyme
"You have to remember, you know, Lyndon Johnson was one of the best presidents we had and he was a redneck out of Texas," he explained.

Wow. I've never heard anyone refer to LBJ as one of the best presidents we had. In my mind, the Vietnam war started going downhill on his watch.

36 posted on 02/15/2005 9:15:10 AM PST by marvlus
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To: missyme
You might be a "redneck" if you rankle Charlie Rangel.
37 posted on 02/15/2005 9:17:31 AM PST by F16Fighter
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To: missyme
Billy boy is a redneck. He was hand picked by Arkansas Governor Orvil Faubus (of standing in the door of the schoolhouse fame) for personal mentoring. For a time he was Orvils driver. The acorn don't fall far from the tree.
38 posted on 02/15/2005 9:18:00 AM PST by fella
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To: Irene Adler

I was half-serious. Your post was sobering however.

I think she would be very bad for the country. On character, and on the issues, she's a loser, IMHO. But many will push her, hard. Why? Even if the worst happened and she were elected, it would take all of six months for (almost) everyone to realize what a terrible mistake it was.

I don't even want to think about it! But i suppose we all must be prepared, with the facts and a superior GOP candidate and united party.


39 posted on 02/15/2005 9:19:04 AM PST by cvq3842
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To: cvq3842
I believe it was something like 15 - 25 seconds. The ridiculous thing was that he was only hit 17 times and only three or four were stopping wounds.
40 posted on 02/15/2005 9:19:35 AM PST by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: marvlus

For Rangel LBJ is a great president, because LBJ created the so-called "Great Society" programs that Rangel and his cronies turned into endless cash cows - welfare, WIC, HeadStart, etc.


41 posted on 02/15/2005 9:21:24 AM PST by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: wideawake

thanks


42 posted on 02/15/2005 9:21:58 AM PST by cvq3842
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To: missyme

IMO, the leftist are all trying to help her by making themselves look more extrem, and trying to make her look "main-stream". Come election time, Rangle will cast his vote for her, and from the pulpits, he and his buddies will preach to vote for her. disgraceful


43 posted on 02/15/2005 9:26:28 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (never surrender, this is for the kids)
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To: missyme

This is hilarious! The democrats - what a screwed-up bunch of pathetic, lost, sad sack idiots!

Screamin' dean is the party leader; a self-admitted traitor ran for president and got 59 million votes; hollywierd is their staunchest advocate; now rangel calls clintoon a redneck!!! What a perfect formula for Republican success.

You just can't make this $h!t up.....


44 posted on 02/15/2005 9:28:03 AM PST by Don Simmons (Annoy a liberal: Work hard; Prosper; Be Happy.)
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To: missyme
"You have to remember, you know, Lyndon Johnson was one of the best presidents we had and he was a redneck out of Texas," he explained.

Charlie, you mean the guy that got us into the Vietnam War?

45 posted on 02/15/2005 9:28:09 AM PST by Go Gordon
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To: cvq3842

There were alot of complicating factors. IIRC:

1. Undercover police looking for a suspected armed serial rapist.
2. Late evening.
2. Darken apartment entry vestible.
3. Probably due to his limited English skills, Amadou doesn't understand/react properly to the officer's commands.
4. Gets out his wallet (He probably thought he was being robbed). This act was interpreted by lead officer as going for a weapon.
5. Lead officer fires then slips on steps of vestible, falling backward. Interpreted by other officers as being shot. Sets off a barrage of "defensive" fire.
6. Vestible echos and re-echos officers' own gunfire giving impression that Amadou is continuing to fire back at them.
7. Black race of suspect and and white race of officers. Unpleasant to think about but probably a factor, at least subconsciously. (When incident originally ran, I recall a posting that four BLACK officers would probably have had a roughed up but very much alive suspect to take to the station vice a dead one with 19 holes in him headed for the morgue.

Nineteen hits out of 41 shots.

IIRC, all the officers had semiauto pistols, probably with high capacity magazines. Have never seen individual round count, but I suspect the officer who slipped only fired a very few rounds. Sounds like the rest just emptied the clip. Maybe 2-3 seconds rapid firing with say... 10 seconds for the entire incident.

Never heard if Amadou's mother received any compensation for his death.


46 posted on 02/15/2005 9:34:32 AM PST by Captain Rhino ("If you will just abandon logic, these things will make a lot more sense to you!")
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To: hobbes1

I was thinking what would happen if he called just some "hoarse-talking brother" from Harlem...


47 posted on 02/15/2005 9:36:34 AM PST by Hand em their arse
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To: missyme
"You have to remember, you know, Lyndon Johnson was one of the best presidents we had and he was a redneck out of Texas," he explained.

ROFL, now I've heard it all. Even most lefties I know who are big fans of the welfare state couldn't bring themselves to call LBJ one the best presidents we've ever had.

48 posted on 02/15/2005 9:37:32 AM PST by jpl (Islam is a religion of peace, as in "Rest in Peace".)
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To: Captain Rhino

Interesting. I did think the actual shooting only lasted a very short time - a few seconds.


49 posted on 02/15/2005 9:48:50 AM PST by cvq3842
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To: cvq3842

"when its in the house, its a mouse...when its outside of the house its a RAT" (from SCARY MOVIE 3)

RAT FIGHT!


50 posted on 02/15/2005 9:56:35 AM PST by princess leah (\)
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