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Microsoft to offer free anti-spyware, anti-virus software
Yahoo Newsss ^ | 2/15/05

Posted on 02/15/2005 2:04:19 PM PST by Arnold Zephel

Microsoft to offer free anti-spyware, anti-virus software

34 minutes ago

WASHINGTON (AFP) - Microsoft Corp. will offer consumers who use its Windows operating system free software to battle so-called spyware and eventually antivirus software, chairman Bill Gates (news - web sites) said.

Photo AFP/HO Photo

Speaking at the RSA Conference in San Francisco, the high-tech security industry's largest annual gathering, Gates said that Microsoft is on track to deliver a broad antivirus product to consumers by the end of the year following its acquisition of Sybari Software, announced last week.

Gates, who also serves as chief software architect of the world's biggest software company, emphasized the company's commitment to continue developing products to help computer users guard against the threats from malicious software that can compromise privacy and slow computers to a crawl.

"Customers are concerned about the risk malware (malicious software) poses to their personal information, and frustrated by its impact on the reliability and performance of their computers," Gates said.

Microsoft last month rolled out a free test version of the software that removes the unwanted spyware -- which can redirect or "hijack" Internet browsers -- based on technology from Giant Company, which Microsoft acquired in December.

At the time, Microsoft did not say whether it would eventually charge users for the program.

A paid version of the anti-spyware software will be aimed at corporate customers, who often require more complex infrastructure support.

In addition, the company will launch a new version of its Internet Explorer browser with tougher security features to help fend off threats like "phishing" -- the use of websites designed to look like a legitimate site of a bank or other firm in order to get passwords -- along with viruses and spyware, Gates said.

A test version of the new browser, version 7.0, will be available this year and it will be incorporated in the next version of Windows, Longhorn, expected to reach computer users next year.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Technical
KEYWORDS: computersecurity; microsoft; tech; virus
I am intrigued. I hope it is effective. I am tired of paying for anti-virus protection due to vunerabilities in Microsoft Windows. Microsoft should offer a free solution. I will file this one under wait as see.
1 posted on 02/15/2005 2:04:22 PM PST by Arnold Zephel
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To: Arnold Zephel

Will it protect you against spy ware from Microsoft?


2 posted on 02/15/2005 2:06:02 PM PST by Perdogg (Rumsfeld for President - 2008)
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To: Arnold Zephel

Sign me up Bill, I need more of your garbage on my system.


3 posted on 02/15/2005 2:07:00 PM PST by Shellback Chuck
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To: Arnold Zephel

There will be 2 problems.

1) Microsoft will be spying on you with its anti-spyware.

2) It will have holes that can be exploited. And once it attains a dominant share, those holes will be ruthlessly exploited.


4 posted on 02/15/2005 2:07:52 PM PST by blanknoone (Steyn: "The Dems are all exit and no strategy")
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To: Perdogg

LOL...doubtful. I too am skeptical, but hopeful.


5 posted on 02/15/2005 2:07:59 PM PST by Arnold Zephel
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To: Arnold Zephel

Let me hazard a guess. Someone has to be using IE to get these s'wares, right? No thanks.


6 posted on 02/15/2005 2:08:54 PM PST by spetznaz (Nuclear tipped ICBMs: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol.)
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To: Perdogg
Will it protect you against spy ware from Microsoft?

No.

7 posted on 02/15/2005 2:11:06 PM PST by zeugma (Come to the Dark Side...... We have cookies! (Made from the finest girlscouts!))
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To: Arnold Zephel
I'm torn... on the one hand, it looks like Microsoft is actually trying to be proactive about security, which is a welcome change. On the other hand, we have yet another example of Microsoft's "embrace-extend-extinguish" business model, and yet another example of Microsoft leveraging its de facto OS monopoly into taking over an applications market. On the other other hand, this market wouldn't exist in the first place if the OS had been secured from the start...
8 posted on 02/15/2005 2:12:34 PM PST by kevkrom (If people are free to do as they wish, they are almost certain not to do as Utopian planners wish)
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To: Arnold Zephel

This is something I will avoid like the black plague.


9 posted on 02/15/2005 2:12:48 PM PST by Bones75
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To: Arnold Zephel; All
As part of a multi-pronged assault against spyware infestation, I've been using Microsoft's entry into the field for about three weeks.  I'm impressed....it's caught several items that Webroot SpySweeper, Zone Alarm Pro, AdAware SE Pro, and SpyBot Search And Destroy all failed to nab, including one particularly nasty item that was proving difficult to eradicate because it kept regenerating itself even after 'removal' via other means.  No conflicts or problems whatsoever with it so far.  Here's the link to the download page:

Microsoft Windows AntiSpyware (Beta) Home

10 posted on 02/15/2005 2:14:09 PM PST by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: blanknoone
This quote is mine...when it is all over the Net, I want a penny a posting!

"Buying anti-virus software from Microsoft is like buying glasses from a blind man."

11 posted on 02/15/2005 2:17:41 PM PST by 50sDad ( ST3d - Star Trek Tri-D Chess! http://my.oh.voyager.net/~abartmes)
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To: Stoat

I don't know why I typed Zone Alarm Pro into my previous post...it's not an antispyware app and I don't have it installed on the StoatPuter.

A pre-senior moment? :-)


12 posted on 02/15/2005 2:18:17 PM PST by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat
My experience seems to closely parallel yours. So far, I'm very impressed.
13 posted on 02/15/2005 2:21:36 PM PST by Bigun (IRSsucks@getridof it.com)
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To: Stoat
Same here on the Windozw platform. It's pretty good stuff.

Note that it's aware of a lot of programs that and knows they are OK. If this takes off I pity the company that has software on you machine MS "thinks" should not be there....

14 posted on 02/15/2005 2:26:24 PM PST by isthisnickcool (This space for rent.)
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To: Arnold Zephel

About time...we ended up spending $100 each to have two computers updated to SP2 after SP1 had a conflict with NAV and both ended up with a virus that would not allow us to download SP2 ourselves as it kept shutting down the computers. NAV blamed it on MS, MS blamed it on NAV, but neither would help fix the problem.


15 posted on 02/15/2005 2:28:05 PM PST by ravingnutter
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To: kevkrom
yet another example of Microsoft leveraging its de facto OS monopoly into taking over an applications market

I was just forced to switch to MS Outlook because we could not receive e-mail attachments from our Corporate office because they exclusively use MS Outlook which uses Rich Text Format. I was mad as hell. I already had blockers on my ISP's e-mail program. I also had a problem with MS Outlook not wanting to accept my address book...it would import the names, but not the e-mail addresses. I ended up typing them in manually, all 100 of them. Bill Gates can bite my butt.

16 posted on 02/15/2005 2:36:16 PM PST by ravingnutter
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To: ravingnutter

Outlook is one of the biggest violators of the concept that programs should work within standards and play well with others. It is annoyingly proprietary and closed bloatware. Getting data into or out of Outlook can be a real adventure... not to mention the Outlook corruptions that only a $250 program can properly fix. Nice! Love that lower TCO and superior integration that Windows provides.


17 posted on 02/15/2005 3:10:04 PM PST by kezekiel
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To: Arnold Zephel

I'm already using it. The first time I ran it, it found several spyware programs that had been missed by other spyware scanners I use.


18 posted on 02/15/2005 3:50:26 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Andrew Heyward's got to go!)
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To: isthisnickcool
Same here on the Windozw platform. It's pretty good stuff.

Note that it's aware of a lot of programs that and knows they are OK. If this takes off I pity the company that has software on you machine MS "thinks" should not be there....

As with all anti-spyware apps I've used, it leaves the user in control as to what it ultimately removes.  Users always have the option of ignoring it's recommendations and selectively cleaning some or none of the flagged items.  That being said, you raise an essential point in that the consumer must become informed as to the true scope of action pertaining to all of his/her installed programs.  One application that I've used for years was flagged by Microsoft's antispyware program as being spyware, even though the developer and numerous reviews that I've read of the app promised that it wasn't spyware.  The problem, I believe, came down to an option that's available during the original app's install, where you're given a choice of using it as a 'free' program, in which case it will display ads, or you can register it and it won't display the ads.  I have always used it as a paid, registered program and was led to believe that the adware stuff wasn't installed at all when you operate in this mode.  Microsoft's antispyware app still flagged it, however.  I was left with the question....is this a matter of the Microsoft app being unaware that the adware components weren't installed and it simply flagged everything from that developer, or was it a matter of the developer lying about the app's true functions and the 'highly respected' reviewers that approved it simply weren't aware of what it was doing in the background?  Because I found another app that did the same job 'almost' as well, I ripped out this favorite program and installed the new 'clean' one.  Subsequent system scans indicated no spyware, but now I have a less-functional program and I'm not sure if it made any difference or not.

Particularly now that Microsoft, with it's ubiquitous market presence, has weighed into the antispyware arena, developers need to be far more open and honest about exactly what their software will do, particularly if it 'reaches out' in any way from the host system.  There needs to be a set of industry standards that defines what spyware is, but as this is a subject of rancorous debate at the moment, that seems unlikely in the near future.

Consumers need to remain vigilant and insist on firewalls that allow them to define exactly who or what their machines are talking to.  Even with this, however, it's difficult to keep tabs on what every single app is doing at all times.  I suppose that until coherent industry standards are developed, all one can do is aggressively remain informed, run frequent antispyware scans with multiple scanners, maintain a firewall and keep away from 'free' software that sounds too good to be true.

19 posted on 02/15/2005 5:34:51 PM PST by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Bones75
This is something I will avoid like the black plague.

The MS AntiSpyware works very well.

I knew my son's computer was full of malware and I figured I'd have to reload it soon. Then this came out and I figured I had nothing to lose.

It removed a bunch of malware. The only thing it had trouble with was VX2, but after a week or so it was gone for good as well. The report back to MS feature helped with the VX2 problem I am sure.

20 posted on 02/15/2005 5:47:05 PM PST by RJL
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To: Stoat

You know, now that the browser wars have started up again ...

... the nastiest viruses are probably sent by the Microsoft and Mozilla themselves.

Or, at least, that is a possible nightmare scenario. Think about that in the long-term.


21 posted on 02/15/2005 5:52:04 PM PST by JustDoItAlways
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To: JustDoItAlways
You know, now that the browser wars have started up again ...

... the nastiest viruses are probably sent by the Microsoft and Mozilla themselves.

Or, at least, that is a possible nightmare scenario. Think about that in the long-term.

I'm afraid that I've always had trouble signing on to massive corporate or government conspiracies, mainly because it's always a matter of  for the theory to work, large numbers of people would have to keep an incredibly damaging secret for their entire lifetimes, and nobody could ever make the slightest mistake or entire nations or multibillion dollar industries would effectively collapse.  Considering the fact that the Government can't even control the borders of our nation effectively, deliver mail perfectly or make the concept of car registration an enjoyable experience and huge, multibillion dollar auto manufacturers occasionally release a model with an exploding gas tank, airbags that decapitate children and tires that blow up at the slightest provocation, I just have a hard time accepting the notion that there's a top-secret 'virus propagation wing' at the Microsoft campus or in Mozilla's basement staffed by the greatest mathematicians in the world and who have sworn a blood oath of secrecy.

When we look at viruses, which is an entirely different subject from spyware, most of the people who have been nabbed for creating them have been pimply and pale 17 year old boys who have no social skills and can't get a date.  They write viruses specifically targeting Microsoft products because they don't like the fact that Bill Gates has more money than they do, and they also simply want to inflict the maximum damage possible and so they choose the most popular operating system.

That being said, I have no doubt that many of the viruses that plague Microsoft browser vulnerabilities are, as you say, written by people who simply want Microsoft to have troubles.  Even in this thread we see posters who have a visceral, blind and seething rage against anything even remotely associated with the name Microsoft. 

22 posted on 02/15/2005 6:15:11 PM PST by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Arnold Zephel

This product ROCKS! It's the only thing that cleaned up my adware crap. I tried everything else and this is the best.


23 posted on 02/15/2005 9:35:00 PM PST by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: Stoat
I'm impressed....it's caught several items that Webroot SpySweeper, Zone Alarm Pro, AdAware SE Pro, and SpyBot Search And Destroy all failed to nab, including one particularly nasty item that was proving difficult to eradicate because it kept regenerating itself even after 'removal' via other means.

Same with me. That other garbage would detect and rid and the crap would come back as soon as I rebooted. So far so good with Microsoft. Of course, you're going to have your share of Bill Gates bashers on this thread, but you can't beat results.

24 posted on 02/15/2005 9:36:56 PM PST by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: ClintonBeGone

I downloaded it today and it found a BUNCH of stuff the others didn't; I am dumping some of them!


25 posted on 02/15/2005 9:41:02 PM PST by Howlin (Free the Eason Jordan Tape!!!)
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To: Howlin
I downloaded it today and it found a BUNCH of stuff the others didn't; I am dumping some of them!

Make sure you set it to run automatically at night (or whenever you sleep :)). It's really a fanstastic product. It beats all the free ones hands down.

26 posted on 02/15/2005 9:47:19 PM PST by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: spetznaz
Let me hazard a guess. Someone has to be using IE to get these s'wares, right? No thanks.

Minimum system requirements for Windows AntiSpyware (Beta): •
Microsoft Internet Explorer 6.0 or higher •
A 300 MHz or faster processor with at least 64 MB of RAM •
Microsoft Windows 2000, Windows XP, or Windows Server™ 2003 •
At least 10 MB of available free space on your hard disk •
Internet access with at least a 28.8 Kbps connection to use SpyNet™

Looks like more Microsuck spyware to me. No thanks Billy

27 posted on 02/15/2005 10:06:37 PM PST by paleocon patriarch ("Never attribute to a conspiracy that which can be explained by incompetence.")
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To: paleocon patriarch

LOL. And i was merely half-joking when i initially said that. Microsoft is just hilarious. This is like asking me to take a free bullet-resistant vest, but at the same time exposing me to point blank shots from a magnum.


28 posted on 02/15/2005 10:09:10 PM PST by spetznaz (Nuclear tipped ICBMs: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol.)
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To: Arnold Zephel
Speaking of spyware, read all about Microsuck's really hidden spy files here
29 posted on 02/15/2005 10:13:31 PM PST by paleocon patriarch ("Never attribute to a conspiracy that which can be explained by incompetence.")
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To: spetznaz
Speaking of spyware, read all about Microsuck's really hidden spy files here
30 posted on 02/15/2005 10:16:26 PM PST by paleocon patriarch ("Never attribute to a conspiracy that which can be explained by incompetence.")
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To: ClintonBeGone

I also found Trogan.startpage on the downstairs computer. UGH.


31 posted on 02/15/2005 10:18:30 PM PST by Howlin (Free the Eason Jordan Tape!!!)
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To: Paleo Conservative

I have been using it since it was offered as a beta and it has done a great job. Bravo to Microsoft for making a great product.


32 posted on 02/15/2005 10:28:27 PM PST by Captain Beyond (The Hammer of the gods! (Just a cool line from a Led Zep song))
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To: Captain Beyond
I have been using it since it was offered as a beta and it has done a great job. Bravo to Microsoft for making a great product.

The version on the computer I am using still says "Beta1".

33 posted on 02/15/2005 11:08:33 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Andrew Heyward's got to go!)
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To: Arnold Zephel


Marking a place to research later.


34 posted on 02/16/2005 2:07:52 AM PST by onyx ("First you look to God, then to Fox News" -- Denny Crane, Republican...lol.)
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To: Arnold Zephel

BS! Bill Gates see's a potentially new revenue stream for his back pocket.


35 posted on 02/17/2005 2:12:03 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Smoke free since January 16, 2005)
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