Posted on 02/16/2005 9:49:39 AM PST by SirChas
Just heard on KOA radio that a Cessna Citation crashed on approach to Pueblo Colorado, killing seven.
They also mentioned that it was registered to Circuit City in Richmond VA.
No other details at this time. It is bad weather along the front range today. This morning there was freezing rain/snow at my house near Colorado Springs, about 45 miles north of Pueblo.
Please ping me if more details. I have some friends with Circuit City Construction that fly.
Thanks
Oh no. Weather isn't bad here in Longmont.
Prayers for the victims and their families.
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Pueblo plane crash kills at least seven
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No connection, but Circuit City is going through a hostile takeover right now by a huge investment firm that would take it private. Then there is the possibility of BestBuy swallowing it up.
Small jet crashes east of Pueblo Airport
A private jet crashed Wednesday morning east of the Pueblo Airport. Initial reports say it was carrying six people and all six are believed to have perished.Emergency crews are on the scene, near Chico Road in eastern Pueblo County. So far the identity of those on board has not been released. The jet is a Cessna Citation 560, like the one pictured here. It has a capacity of up to 10.
The crash happened at 9:13 Wednesday morning. The Federal Aviation Administration has confirmed four deaths, with a possibility that three had died. The Pueblo County Sheriff's Office reported six had died.
The plane crashed in an open field while approaching the Pueblo Airport and burst into flames. The F.A.A. says the jet was registered to Circuit City, based in Richmond, Virginia.

Eight Confirmed Dead in Pueblo Plane Crash
Feb 16, 2005 10:12 am US/MountainPUEBLO, Colo. (CBS4) A small plane has crashed about five miles from the Pueblo airport, killing all eight aboard.
The twin-engine Cessna Citation was registered to Circuit City stores in Richmond, Va., and crashed as it was approaching Pueblo Memorial Airport just after 9 a.m., said Mike Fergus of the Federal Aviation Administration in Seattle.
The plane has a capacity of up to 10 passengers, Fergus said.
A Circuit City spokesman said the company had no information on the plane.
The National Weather Service reported low clouds, fog and freezing drizzle at the airport at the time of the crash.
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> ... Circuit City is going through a hostile takeover ...
Hedge fund attempts Circuit City takeover
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=21284
There are doubtless other articles on the financial wires.
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/state/article/0,1299,DRMN_21_3552323,00.html
I'm in Pueblo County and weather conditions are very bad. Dense fog with very low visibility.
Also have an aunt who lives in the vicinity of the crash on Chico Rd. and need to call and make sure she's okay.
How many million does this craft cost?
KPUB 161753Z 04006KT 9SM OVC008 M02/M04 A3015 RMK AO2 CIG 005V011 SLP233 T10221039 11022 21033 58005
Observation one hour after the mishap. Radar loop from time of the mishap showed significant weather east of Pueblo.
http://www.crh.noaa.gov/pub/
NOAA pueblo wx page
Please ping me also if you hear more news on this as I too have many friends at CC.
Tahnks
If the 560 is a Citation V, used Citation Vs go for around $3-4 million.
Yeow! Circuit City rec'd an unannounced buy offer. Wonder if the people were related to that offer?
Circuit City plane crashes
Four employees aboard plane down on approach
By Jennifer Waters, MarketWatch
Last Update: 1:58 PM ET Feb. 16, 2005
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CHICAGO (MarketWatch) -- Circuit City Stores Inc. confirmed Wednesday that a plane carrying four employees and four other people crashed in Colorado.
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None of the passengers was an officer of the company.
The electronics retailer did not confirm reports that all passengers aboard the Cessna Citation died in the crash. However, in a short statement, the Richmond, Va.-based company said it would not comment until it had notified families.
Circuit City spokesman Steve Mullen said he could not offer any information on the passengers who were not Circuit City employees.
The twin-engine plane crashed just after 9 a.m. as it approached Pueblo Memorial Airport on a flight from Richmond, Mike Fergus of the Federal Aviation Administration in Seattle told the Associated Press. The Pueblo Chieftain of Colorado reported that eight people were on the plane and that there were no survivors.
The plane has a capacity of up to 10 passengers, Fergus said.
Low clouds, fog and freezing rain were reported at the time of the crash, according to the National Weather Service.
Shares of Circuit City (CC: news, chart, profile) , whose stocks surged Tuesday amid news of a potential buyout to take it private, slipped 25 cents, or 1.5 percent, to $16.28.
I fly corporate aircraft out of Charlottesville, VA. and am an hour away from Richmond. The aircraft that crashed was owned by Circuit City but managed by an outfit called MartinAir. I might know the crew, not sure yet. I interviewed for a job there last year. Hitting close to home...
I broker corporate aircraft (mostly jets) out of Santa Monica, CA...but started in my home town, Richmond, back in the beginning of Reagan's first term. My brother works for CC and one of my best friends in grade school thru high school is CIO for CC. I know what you mean, hitting close to home.
http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=20050304X00267&key=1
NTSB Identification: DCA05MA037
14 CFR Part 91: General Aviation
Accident occurred Wednesday, February 16, 2005 in Pueblo, CO
Aircraft: Cessna 560, registration: N500AT
Injuries: 8 Fatal.
This is preliminary information, subject to change, and may contain errors. Any errors in this report will be corrected when the final report has been completed.
On February 16, 2005, at approximately 0913 mountain standard time (MST), a Cessna Citation 560, registration N500AT, crashed while on an ILS approach to runway 26R at Pueblo Memorial Airport, Pueblo, Colorado (PUB). The two flight crewmembers and six passengers were fatally injured, and the airplane was destroyed by impact and a post-crash fire. The accident site was located in an open field approximately 4 miles east of the runway. The airplane was owned and operated by Circuit City Stores, Inc. of Richmond, VA, utilizing the aircraft management services of Martinair. The flight was being conducted in accordance with 14 CFR Part 91, and instrument meteorological conditions (IMC) prevailed on the approach.
Elevation of the accident site was about 4600 feet. The wreckage debris field was approximately 550 feet long and oriented on a magnetic heading of 230 degrees. Impact marks and debris were consistent with first ground impact by the left wing.
The accident airplane and another Circuit City Citation about 20 miles in trail (the "sister ship") were destined for Santa Ana, CA. The flights originated at Richmond International Airport, VA, (RIC). Because of forecast and encountered headwinds, the first fuel stop was in Columbia, Missouri, and the second fuel stop was to be in Pueblo. The pilots of the sister ship stated that they and the accident pilots met at RIC around 0500 and departed soon after 0600 that morning. The stop in Columbia was uneventful.
The captain of the sister ship stated that his flight was in and out of the clouds on their descent from 10,000 feet into PUB. He indicated that they were picking up some rime ice, but that operation of the deicing boots was effectively shedding the ice. The captain of the sister ship stated that after communication with the accident airplane had been lost, they were vectored around to land on runway 8L.
The closest automated surface observing system (ASOS) to the accident site was the PUB ASOS, which was located about 4 miles west of the site. The most recent weather observation occurred at 1553 UTC (universal time coordinates, or 0853 MST) and included the following:
winds from 060 degrees at 8 knots; visibility 8 miles; skies broken at 900 feet and overcast at 1,400 feet; temperature -3 degrees C, dew point -5 degrees C, altimeter 30.16 in. Hg; remarks: ceiling varying between 700 and 1,100 feet.
An AIRMET for icing conditions had been issued by the National Weather Service on the day of the accident and was valid at the time of the accident and included the accident location. It was issued at 1445 UTC and valid until 2100 UTC. In part, it forecasted occasional moderate rime and/or mixed icing in clouds and precipitation between the freezing level (i.e., the ground) and 22,000 feet.
The air traffic controller at Pueblo handling N500AT indicated that another airplane was in a holding pattern near PUB in order to burn fuel and return to Colorado Springs, Colorado. Because this airplane and the accident airplane could not visually acquire each other, and because of the potential for reduced separation, the controller vectored N500AT to the south briefly and then back to the north to provide adequate spacing between the two airplanes.
The captain of the holding airplane, a Bombardier CRJ-200, stated that he had requested a holding altitude of 8,000 feet over PUB. Air traffic control (ATC) informed him of icing conditions at 8,000 feet but he stated that he would try it. He stated that as the flight descended to 8,000 feet and into instrument meteorological conditions, the icing light in his airplane illuminated. He immediately requested and received 9,000 feet to exit the icing conditions. He said he was above the cloud layer and mostly in the clear at 9,000 feet. He characterized the icing as rime icing but couldn't state the accumulation rate or its severity.
Radar data show that N500AT was vectored to the south when it was about 15 miles out from PUB and rejoined the localizer about 10 miles out. The radar track shows the accident airplane on a heading consistent with the inbound localizer heading of 257 degrees after rejoining the localizer.
The following are from the ATC transcript of some of the communications between the local controller (LC) and the accident flight (reported times are approximate and in UTC as "hours:minutes:seconds").
16:06:11, LC citation zero alpha tango affirmative runway two six right for the ils traffic holding over the airport is a regional jet at niner thousand report if you get him in sight
16:06:20, N500AT ok i'll be looking and uh looking for the ils two six right
16:08:06, LC citation zero alpha tango roger that traffic is eleven moving twelve o'clock and niner miles turning northbound at niner thousand
16:08:14, N500AT ok we're out of ten now hurrying on down to seven and he must be imc
16:08:18, LC uh negative he's just on top
16:08:24, N500AT ok but we're imc now at ninety four hundred alpha tango
16:08:28, LC citation zero alpha tango turn left heading of one seven zero
16:08:55, LC citation zero alpha tango turn right heading two niner zero intercept the localizer inbound traffic is five miles west of your position level at niner thousand maintain seven thousand until established cleared approach
16:11:09, LC citation zero foxtrot uh or correction uh cita or correction citation zero alpha tango you're cleared approach just remain with me runway two six right cleared to land
16:11:19, N500AT ok five alpha tango cleared to land with you at seven thousand intercepting the glide slope
The following are the approximate times and altitudes associated with the last seven ATC radar hits of N500AT (time is in UTC and altitude is above mean sea level):
16:12:16 6200 feet
16:12:20 6200 feet
16:12:25 6100 feet
16:12:30 6100 feet
16:12:34 6000 feet
16:12:39 5600 feet
16:12:44 4900 feet
The sister-ship captain stated that he had flown N500AT the day before the accident and had observed no maintenance problems. The sister-ship first officer stated that he had flown N500AT two days before the accident and that the airplane "worked fine."
Are there any settings such as baro pressure etc.. that would affect the glide slope?
Also, the visibility seemed to be ok so does that mean that "anti-icing" was not on? I would think that could be verified from the wreckage.
I hate plane crashes...
The first 5 radar hits appear that it was on the glidescope, after that it's in a dive to lose that much altitude in 8 seconds!
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