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NASA Researches Claim Evidenc of Present Life on Mars
Space News ^ | Feb. 16, 2005 | Brian Berger

Posted on 02/16/2005 11:35:13 AM PST by PresbyRev

WASHINGTON -- A pair of NASA scientists told a group of space officials at a private meeting here Sunday that they have found strong evidence that life may exist today on Mars, hidden away in caves and sustained by pockets of water.

The scientists, Carol Stoker and Larry Lemke of NASA’s Ames Research Center in Silicon Valley, told the group that they have submitted their findings to the journal Nature for publication in May, and their paper currently is being peer reviewed.

What Stoker and Lemke have found, according to several attendees of the private meeting, is not direct proof of life on Mars, but methane signatures and other signs of possible biological activity remarkably similar to those recently discovered in caves here on Earth.

(Excerpt) Read more at space.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: mars; nasa; space
Soon we will force the Grays from their hidden lairs. :-)
1 posted on 02/16/2005 11:35:25 AM PST by PresbyRev
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To: PresbyRev

2 posted on 02/16/2005 11:36:55 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: PresbyRev
Soon we will force the Grays from their hidden lairs. :-)

I'll bet your sermons are really something to hear.

3 posted on 02/16/2005 11:37:32 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: PresbyRev

4 posted on 02/16/2005 11:37:42 AM PST by SeamusVA
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To: PresbyRev

"hidden away in caves and sustained by pockets of water..."

Cave men on Mars?


5 posted on 02/16/2005 11:40:12 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: PresbyRev

Damn right there is current life on Mars. In fact it is coming to a neighborhood near you on 29 June (War of the Worlds by Steven Spielberg).


6 posted on 02/16/2005 11:40:46 AM PST by FormerACLUmember (Honoring Saint Jude's assistance every day.)
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To: PresbyRev
their paper currently is being peer reviewed.

Naturally the press couldn't wait until the review was complete.

7 posted on 02/16/2005 11:41:13 AM PST by Publius Scipio
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To: Brilliant

Someone asked me the other day, "Where did liberals come from?"...totally stumped before, NOW I have an answer for them...


8 posted on 02/16/2005 11:41:17 AM PST by EagleUSA
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To: PresbyRev

Don't tell the Masons about possible life on Mars, they will just try to control it with their secrets.


9 posted on 02/16/2005 11:42:56 AM PST by AxelPaulsenJr (Pray Daily For Our Troops and President Bush)
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To: Brilliant

``"hidden away in caves and sustained by pockets of water..." ``


Osama????


10 posted on 02/16/2005 11:44:22 AM PST by mlbford2 ("Never wrestle with a pig; you can't win, you just get filthy, and the pig loves it...")
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To: SeamusVA
ROFLMAO!

Great Pic!
LOL

11 posted on 02/16/2005 11:45:12 AM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: AxelPaulsenJr

Who controls the British Crown?
Who keeps the Metric System down?
We do! We do!
Who leaves Altantis off the maps?
Who keeps the Martians under wraps?
We do! We do!

Who holds back the electric car?
Who makes Steve Guttenberg a star?
We do! We do!

Who robs cave fish of their sight?
Who rigs every Oscar night?
We do! We do!


12 posted on 02/16/2005 11:45:47 AM PST by PresbyRev (All truth is God's truth: post tenebras, Lux!)
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To: PresbyRev

LOL................


13 posted on 02/16/2005 11:46:49 AM PST by AxelPaulsenJr (Pray Daily For Our Troops and President Bush)
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To: PresbyRev
"Bush and the right wing are responsible for putting life on Mars and we need to stop it." - Nancy Pelosi

"I'd have put life on Mars a long time ago, but I'd have done it differently". John Kerry

"I asked Condi if Bush put life on Mars and she said, "No". Just another reason she should not be the new Secretary of State." - Barbara Boxer

"It'll be a quagmire up there on Mars. Do they have liquor stores?" - Ted Kennedy

"Ha ha ha, you know, my husband thought of putting life on Mars a long time ago, but he thought we should be more concerned about people here on Earth." - Hillary Clinton
14 posted on 02/16/2005 11:56:08 AM PST by ryan71 (Live Free)
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To: PresbyRev
NASA Researche[r]s Claim Evidenc[e] of Present Life on Mars

Copy-and-paste very much wants to be your friend, Rev. :-)

15 posted on 02/16/2005 11:57:38 AM PST by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: PresbyRev

The STONECUTTERS Rule!!! Literally.



16 posted on 02/16/2005 12:15:00 PM PST by irish_links
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To: PresbyRev
Making such a discovery at Rio Tinto, Stoker said in 2003, would mean uncovering a new, previously uncharacterized metabolic strategy for living in the subsurface. “For that reason, the search for life in the Rio Tinto is a good analog for searching for life on Mars,” she said.

Except that Rio Tinto is on a planet already famed for being lousy with life-forms, and Mars, so far, isn't.

Otherwise, yeah, perfect analog . . .

17 posted on 02/16/2005 12:17:40 PM PST by Dunstan McShane
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To: PresbyRev
they have found strong evidence that life

This is an article with little substance. The evidence might point to past life, but not current life. I doubt that God created a dead universe.

18 posted on 02/16/2005 12:25:49 PM PST by aimhigh
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To: PresbyRev

Well maybe they'll luck out and earth will be hit by a giant asteroid before global warming takes its toll.


19 posted on 02/16/2005 12:36:05 PM PST by thegreatbeast (Quid lucrum istic mihi est?)
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To: FormerACLUmember

Damn right there is current life on Mars. In fact it is coming to a neighborhood near you on 29 June (War of the Worlds by Steven Spielberg).


______

Why do I have a feeling that Spielberg is going to ruin this film?


20 posted on 02/16/2005 1:02:24 PM PST by WakeUpAndVote (Got it Bad, Got it Bad, Got it Bad, I'm hot for Teacher! (and she's hot for me too))
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To: ryan71
“I just read a classified document about threats from life on Mars to Washington D.C. So, I'm closing my D.C. office until after the election” - Mark Dayton D-Minn
21 posted on 02/16/2005 1:32:17 PM PST by DrDavid (Support Global Warming: Surf the Hebrides)
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To: VadeRetro; Junior; longshadow; RadioAstronomer; Doctor Stochastic; js1138; Shryke; RightWhale; ...
Science Ping! An elite subset of the Evolution list.
See list's description in my freeper homepage. Then FReepmail to be added/dropped.

22 posted on 02/16/2005 2:13:26 PM PST by PatrickHenry (<-- Click on my name. The List-O-Links for evolution threads is at my freeper homepage.)
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To: PresbyRev; PatrickHenry
strong evidence that life may exist today on Mars

Time to start a Mars-crevo ping list.

23 posted on 02/16/2005 2:28:53 PM PST by Rudder
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To: PatrickHenry
For those who are not aware of it, methane tends to decompose spontaneously, so detection of it in the Martian environment means SOMETHING is producing (or releasing it) at present; it can't be left over atmosphereic methane from long ago.

The challenge is to determine if it the result of biological activity, or "something else."

24 posted on 02/16/2005 4:43:47 PM PST by longshadow
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To: PresbyRev

lol


25 posted on 02/16/2005 4:45:30 PM PST by Walkingfeather (q)
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To: FormerACLUmember

And on March 30, a movie about their previous visit at the turn of the last century, courtesy of Pengragon Pictures.

http://www.pendragonpictures.com/


26 posted on 02/16/2005 6:39:42 PM PST by ml1954
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To: PatrickHenry

Thanks for the ping!


27 posted on 02/16/2005 8:34:34 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: ryan71

...AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO MARS!!! AHHRRRRRRGGHH!!!

-Howard Dean
28 posted on 02/16/2005 8:38:36 PM PST by yooling (Now, go away or I shall taunt you a second time!)
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To: KevinDavis
Gilbert Levin I told ya so ping.

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29 posted on 02/17/2005 10:14:31 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Ted "Kids, I Sunk the Honey" Kennedy is just a drunk who's never held a job (or had to).)
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To: PresbyRev

NASA Scientists told a group of space officials at a private meeting here Sunday that they have found strong evidence that life may exist today on Mars, but that they are having trouble finding life in the womb.


30 posted on 02/17/2005 10:21:09 AM PST by Ramtek57
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To: PresbyRev

Dr. Carol Stoker wrote:

A story has appeared in Space.com which quotes us
inaccurately and without permission. The story is based on hearsay
and is factually incorrect.

Here are the facts:

1. On Sunday night we were attending a private party
of space exploration enthusiasts in which there was a
discussion about the possible meaning of the results
from recent Mars missions. We engaged in the
discussion and expressed thoughts and opinions as
individual scientists on our own time and did not
represent ourselves as speaking for NASA.

2. No one at the party identified themselves as a
reporter, and in fact no reporters were present. This
article is based on hearsay about what somebody at the
party thought they heard us say. We think this
represents extremely poor journalistic standards.

3. No Nature paper has been submitted with Rio Tinto
results. This claim is simply wrong and we did not
make this claim. The MARTE project has several papers
in preparation that describe the work we are doing at
Rio Tinto and the first results of that work, but
nothing has been submitted yet. Preliminary results
have been published in abstract form at various
scientific meetings. If you want to see what the MARTE
team has actually said about results from Rio Tinto
drilling and its relevance to life on Mars, go to
www.marteproject.com and click on publications. All
our REAL publications are posted there.

4. The work at Rio Tinto is relevant to finding life
in a subsurface terrestrial environment and can't be
used to infer anything about life on Mars, directly.
The Rio Tinto work by its very nature can't tell us if
there is life on Mars, but certainly helps formulate
the strategy for how to search for life on Mars. One
approach to searching for extant life on Mars is by
drilling. Partly for this reason, the MARTE project
was selected for funding by NASA's ASTEP program, out
of the Science Mission Directorate and is a joint
project between NASA and Spain's Center for
Astrobiology.


31 posted on 02/17/2005 10:28:01 PM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: PresbyRev
NASA Researches Claim Evidence of Present Life on Mars

Perhaps it is budget time.

32 posted on 02/17/2005 10:33:48 PM PST by Mark17
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To: martin_fierro

Heheheheheeeeee....ROFLOL!


33 posted on 02/17/2005 10:34:41 PM PST by ApesForEvolution (I just took a Muhammad and wiped my Jihadist with Mein Koran...come and get me nutbags.)
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To: SeamusVA

LOL!


34 posted on 02/17/2005 10:34:58 PM PST by ApesForEvolution (I just took a Muhammad and wiped my Jihadist with Mein Koran...come and get me nutbags.)
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To: SeamusVA

ROTFLOL. Got me on that one.


35 posted on 02/17/2005 10:38:12 PM PST by Frumious Bandersnatch
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To: PresbyRev
This is just about as believable as the life found in the claimed martian rock found in antarctica. Making this kind of claim is like the claims made about Nebraska man.

I think some people are hoping desperately to find proof that life began by spontaneous generation.

36 posted on 02/17/2005 10:51:39 PM PST by joe_broadway (The Democrat party is an ACLU cult.)
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To: joe_broadway

I think some people are hoping desperately to find proof that life began by spontaneous generation



Probably so. The universe may or may not contain 'life' on other planets - even if there is - and perhaps there are vast civilizations - it simply would seem to me further proof of Intelligent Design by the Creator.


37 posted on 02/18/2005 7:47:45 AM PST by PresbyRev (All truth is God's truth: post tenebras, Lux!)
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Life on Mars Likely, Scientist Claims
SPACE.com | 8/3/2004 | Leonard David
Posted on 08/03/2004 7:22:02 PM EDT by Dallas59
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1184397/posts

13 things that do not make sense
New Scientist | 19 March 2005 | Michael Brooks
Posted on 03/17/2005 1:25:36 PM EST by ShadowAce
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1364833/posts

Viking Landers May Have Missed Martian Life
New Scientist | 10-23-2006 | Mark Buchanan - David L Chandler
Posted on 10/23/2006 10:14:16 PM EDT by blam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1724685/posts

Scientists Found Life On Mars Back In The 70s
The Telegraph (UK) | 8-23-2007 | Roger Highfield
Posted on 08/23/2007 8:21:58 PM EDT by blam
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38 posted on 12/27/2007 7:38:04 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________Profile updated Sunday, December 23, 2007)
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The Viking Labeled Release Experiment and Life on Mars
by Gilbert V. Levin
Many hypotheses have been advanced and tested in attempts to account for the well-characterized activity detected in the surface material of Mars by the LR experiment. As shown above, these hypotheses have themselves been found wanting. The demonstrated success of the LR and the exquisite sensitivity with which it has detected microorganisms during its extensive test program with its record of no false positives can no longer be denied. No non-biological approach published, or known to the author, has duplicated the LR Mars data. Some laboratory experiments have produced positive responses, but the detailed thermal sensitivity exhibited by the variety of controls conducted on Mars has remained elusive in all such tests compatible with martian conditions. On the other hand, a combination of known properties of microorganisms, perhaps even those possessed by single species, could reproduce all aspects of the LR data. The biological interpretation of the Mars LR results is left standing alone. Recent discoveries of life forms thriving in extraordinarily severe environments on Earth strongly indicate that any alien organisms arriving on Mars might well and widely adapt to their new home. Application of the scientific principle leads to a conclusion: the Viking LR experiment detected living microorganisms in the soil of Mars.

39 posted on 12/27/2007 7:42:24 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________Profile updated Sunday, December 23, 2007)
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