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In Defense of Hannity
2/17/05 | stevio

Posted on 02/17/2005 4:38:08 AM PST by stevio

This is to all the thin skinned FReepers who got offended by Hannity's comments at the beginning of his 2/16/05 show. Ease up on the guy! Personally I like him, he's young, good looking (yea, the girls dig him), doesn't back down from a fight (something the Republicans desperately need) and he is on our side (really). The constant bashing he takes on this site makes me ill. One of the things he said yesterday was that we eat our own, who can disagree with that? 2500+ replies (at this writing) on a couple of sentences he spoke shows we can't let it go. He's human, I'm sure it gets to him when people he thinks are on his side berate him. We are all blessed with certain gifts. If he doesn't say exactly what we think he should say, yea well, try speaking for three hours a day and an hour at night 5 days a week. People on him for pushing his books, we do believe in free enterprise, don't we? And lastly, he relentlessly campaigned for George W. Bush. The passion he has has nothing to do with money, he believes in the cause just as much as we do. Flame me if you want, we are still family.


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1 posted on 02/17/2005 4:38:08 AM PST by stevio
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To: stevio
Flame me if you want, we are still family.

And you're about to become the red-headed step child ... good luck.

2 posted on 02/17/2005 4:39:45 AM PST by tx_eggman ("All I need to know about Islam I learned on 09/11/01" - Crawdad)
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To: stevio

I don't care what he says one way or the other.


3 posted on 02/17/2005 4:40:38 AM PST by cripplecreek (The crippled stool is the cadillac of poopin stools.)
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To: stevio

I like the guy, and I listen to him every day coming home from work. I admire his incredible success - at a relatively young age - based mostly on his passion and perseverance. Folks who don't like Hannity don't have to watch or listen. The ones who flame him incessantly are, well, IMHO jealous/insecure.


4 posted on 02/17/2005 4:41:04 AM PST by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: stevio

Thank you for your opinion. But in MY opinion, Hannity was still wrong to lump together a hundred thousand FReepers as irrelevant "fringe" lunatics. I will continue to watch FOX, however, and keep listening to conservative talk-radio. My brush isn't nearly as broad as Sean's.


5 posted on 02/17/2005 4:41:18 AM PST by shezza
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To: stevio

Book?


6 posted on 02/17/2005 4:41:48 AM PST by dakine
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To: stevio
One of the things he said yesterday was that we eat our own, who can disagree with that?

He said way more than that. He said we have been taking over by radical elements and he never visits us anymore. Say what you want, but this site has become extremely moderate over the last few years, and in pretty much is a fair representation of the GOP party. Hannity was absolutely wrong and mischaracterized this forum in a lame attempt to promote his forum. He owes us an apology.

7 posted on 02/17/2005 4:42:14 AM PST by Always Right
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To: stevio
If Hannity wants to engage in a conversation of constructive criticism about this site and his show, fine. THAT'S NOT WHAT HE DID. The apologists all take his remarks out of context and try to defend them. The inescapable truth is that he made his attack statement as part of a commercial pitch for his site. The words immediately after trashing FR are [paraphrased] "but I have have this really great site." The outrage isn't as much about WHAT he said as HOW and WHEN he said it.

There is plenty of good analysis of what bothers conservatives about Sean's show in the Sean thread. To sum it up, he's a dilettante.

8 posted on 02/17/2005 4:43:04 AM PST by NonValueAdded ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good" HRC 6/28/2004)
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To: stevio

Sean, I thought you said you didn't come here anymore.

Let not your heart be troubled.


9 posted on 02/17/2005 4:43:25 AM PST by ovrtaxt (McClellan: Do away with daily press briefings! Come straight to the New Media!)
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To: stevio

I wrote on the thread yesterday that if you spend 5 days a week, for 5+ years, in a studio with Alan Colmes, the occasional "brain fart" is to be expected, and excused...


10 posted on 02/17/2005 4:45:24 AM PST by ken5050 (The Dem party is as dead as the NHL..)
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To: stevio

Sean's okay. He just talks out of his rear end sometimes.


11 posted on 02/17/2005 4:45:30 AM PST by flying Elvis
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To: stevio

Ok, whatever.....But was it necessary to start a new thread?


12 posted on 02/17/2005 4:45:44 AM PST by PilloryHillary (Can vegetarians eat animal crackers?)
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To: stevio
He took a page from Rushs play book, pissed everybody off and got a zillion hits on his site.

People looked at the message board, which is what he wants.

If he runs his site like Trixie it will never have more than a hundred posters.

13 posted on 02/17/2005 4:45:49 AM PST by DainBramage
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To: stevio

Maybe it we all buy a sleep number bed and promise to eat at Ruth's Criss Steakhouse he'll like us more?


14 posted on 02/17/2005 4:46:19 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: stevio

Did you listen to the audio tape of his FReeper comments? He didn't just make some casual, offhand remarks...in fact, I rarely hear him as snide when speaking about/to liberals...


15 posted on 02/17/2005 4:46:56 AM PST by SE Mom (God Bless our troops.)
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To: Always Right

I didn't agree with what he said yesterday, but I'm not going to throw the baby out with the bathwater either.


16 posted on 02/17/2005 4:46:59 AM PST by stevio (Let Freedom Ring!)
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To: stevio

he had a topic and good focus in the drive to the election. Since then he's scatter-shot all over the board. I prefer talk shows that find a couple or few issues each day and expound on them with insight, then open to discussion, and keep it on point without meandering too far.


17 posted on 02/17/2005 4:47:07 AM PST by Bobber58 (whatever it takes, for as long as it takes)
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To: SE Mom

Yes I did, see reply #7.


18 posted on 02/17/2005 4:48:04 AM PST by stevio (Let Freedom Ring!)
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To: stevio
I didn't agree with what he said yesterday, but I'm not going to throw the baby out with the bathwater either.

I still like him and don't think we should throw him out. He was wrong and owes un an apology though.

19 posted on 02/17/2005 4:48:27 AM PST by Always Right
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To: SE Mom

#16


20 posted on 02/17/2005 4:48:34 AM PST by stevio (Let Freedom Ring!)
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To: stevio
The constant bashing he takes on this site makes me ill.

And it explains his attitude toward FR. Anyone who was on the wrong end of that would have a negative view of the site.

What these people don't understand is that Hannity does great work for the conservative movement. His target audience is apolitical types, and he reaches them, in spades.

People who've never cared much for politics one way or another and wouldn't be able to follow a deeply intellectual conversation about politics because they've always found it boring. We NEED someone like Hannity to reach these people, and he does it well.

As for his book promotion, I agree with you there too. We're conservatives and we're supposed to support the free enterprise system. His books sell. More power to him.

I'm grateful he's on our side and not the other side.

21 posted on 02/17/2005 4:48:51 AM PST by alnick (Rice 2005: We've only just begun to see what Freedom can achieve.)
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To: SE Mom

Don't worry about him. As long as he is with us in the fight against the Dems, we won't have much to worry about. He will get around to it soon enough.


22 posted on 02/17/2005 4:49:12 AM PST by Moderate right-winger (BEWARE of 2006 and 2008)
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To: Non-Sequitur
No one forces you to listen to him change the channel,turn off your radio or listen to Micheal savage(ugggghh)
23 posted on 02/17/2005 4:49:27 AM PST by alchemist54
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To: stevio

Perhaps it has escaped Hannity's notice that by condemning FR, he is eating his own too. I thought we were all conservatives?


24 posted on 02/17/2005 4:49:32 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: shezza
Hannity was still wrong to lump together a hundred thousand FReepers as irrelevant "fringe" lunatics.

But he didn't do that. He specifically stated that there are lots of good people who are "Freeps." His comments are in response to the nasty stuff that gets posted about him here on a regular basis. The guy's human. That stuff has got to hurt.

25 posted on 02/17/2005 4:50:54 AM PST by alnick (Rice 2005: We've only just begun to see what Freedom can achieve.)
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To: stevio

Didn't get a chance to hear Sean yesterday. What did he say?


26 posted on 02/17/2005 4:51:13 AM PST by smiley
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To: stevio

i don't hate him. After hearing his comments i am not more inclined to listen to his radio show than i was before, and am not remotely interested in his website. In the Past, i was a fairly big fan, but the shameless huckstering has gotten to be unbearable. He has proven not to be immune to ego, and if his remarks were aimed at boosting traffic to his own site, well he was just disingenous. He said EVERYONE HE KNOWS left this site 2 years ago. i wonder if he knows Tony Snow, who was here the day before asking for prayers for his cancer. his remarks while not earthshattering, do not reflect well on him.


27 posted on 02/17/2005 4:51:52 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: stevio
OK, but I am still entitled to my own take on him. That goes back to before yesterday. I don't like his bullying style. Also he is an attention hog when interviewing. Nothing gets said except what comes out of his mouth. He needs to lose the exhausted and unoriginal language, get some new and personally thought out ways of saying what he thinks instead of regurgitating some lame and old argument or worse ... parroting himself. He sounds like a broken record. If you have heard him on one issue, you have heard him on all issues. Time to start reading books.
28 posted on 02/17/2005 4:52:08 AM PST by SMARTY ("Stay together, pay the soldiers and forget everything else." Lucius Septimus Severus to his sons)
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To: Always Right

Yeah! How can he say we've been overtaken by the fringe if he never visits? That's like saying you hate a food you've never tasted. How do you know? It was an attempt to promote his own blog. Tear us down to prop up himself... That's a trick of the left and Sean should know better. Apology required.


29 posted on 02/17/2005 4:54:01 AM PST by infidel29 (America is GREAT because she is GOOD, the moment she ceases to be GOOD, she ceases to be GREAT- B.F.)
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To: NonValueAdded
The inescapable truth is that he made his attack statement as part of a commercial pitch for his site

Bingo!

30 posted on 02/17/2005 4:54:04 AM PST by JCRoberts (We're at war. You think we're going to win it with a bunch of fish-eaters...Denny Crane)
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To: Always Right
He said way more than that. He said we have been taking over by radical elements and he never visits us anymore.

And if he doesn't visit, then how does he know?

31 posted on 02/17/2005 4:54:13 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: smiley
Didn't get a chance to hear Sean yesterday. What did he say?

listen to the audio
32 posted on 02/17/2005 4:54:25 AM PST by MaryFromMichigan (We childproofed our home, but they are still getting in)
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To: stevio
Sean has many great attributes, but criticizing this site or any other conservative site is just plain wrong. We broke the Rathergate story via Buckhead which really is the big story of the year in my book concerning the media and it's accountability to the truth. We do things on this site in real time. It doesn't take us days or weeks to break a story or bring it to others for public discourse. Sean doesn't like this aspect of the site anymore than the rest of the MSM. He's part of that group even though he's a conservative. When Fox and other outlets mention FR, you know we are making a difference Sean.
33 posted on 02/17/2005 4:55:38 AM PST by conservativecorner
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Bottom line, he said what he said for his own personal benefit. He's a Judas willing to do anything for gain.


34 posted on 02/17/2005 4:56:11 AM PST by SouthernFreebird
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I suppose it's better to have him around than not. Who else is going to reach out to married women of below average intelligence who

1. have never heard talk radio before
2. think the long and short of conservatism is gong to a Shania Twain concert, or whoever that country chick is
3. Don't have enough of a grasp on current events to analyze any subject beyond 'GOP good Dems bad'
4. Like to talk incessantly about how cute Sean is
5. don't listen to Rush so they hear the rebroadcast of what he said during Sean's turn at the mic
6. I could go on....

He's booooooooooring. His show is the chick flick of talk radio.


35 posted on 02/17/2005 4:56:16 AM PST by ovrtaxt (McClellan: Do away with daily press briefings! Come straight to the New Media!)
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Hannity is all about Hannity. If he thinks he can get ahead by bashing FR, he'll do it. He's first and foremost, a 'media personality' and if he doesn't keep his numbers up, there are plenty of competitors who are ready to step in to take his place. In broadcasting, what you did yesterday means nothing, what you do TODAY is everything.

Having said that, I predict Hannity will discover all too well that old saying about 'be nice to the people you climb over as you make your way to the top, as you will ultimately be passing those people again as you head back down to the bottom'.

American conservatism is bigger than any one person, and it is WAY bigger than Sean Hannity could ever hope to be.


36 posted on 02/17/2005 4:57:04 AM PST by Mad Mammoth
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Wait a minute, wait a minute....I do listen to Sean and one of the things that Sean always tells his guests and his listening audience is that he is NEVER bothered by what is said about him and never has been bothered.....if Sean is upset about FR, then I do not understand his statement. Sean also needs to remember that there is no doubt in anyone's mind here that there are disrupters who may "sound" like Freepers and conservatives, but who are really trying to undermine this site by attacking Rush and Sean. That's my 2 cents worth.


37 posted on 02/17/2005 4:57:19 AM PST by smiley
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To: ken5050

Exactly. I stopped watching regularly because I'm so sick and tired to listening to the other side. They get guys/gals on the other side that are so ridculous, any intelligent purposes would be insulted. I'd rather watch Gibson in that time slot. Hannity would do better in another format. With all that said. Hannity has done enough for our side to make him a significant mouth piece for our issues. If he did say those things, I think he should rethink that.


38 posted on 02/17/2005 4:57:50 AM PST by ONETWOONE (onetwoone)
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I agree
NOBODY worked harded for Bush in NOVEMBER than he did
Being married with kids and a TV Show and Radio show attending rallies all over the country ( at his own expense )and having to put up with Alan Colmes I don't know how he did it

In addition he is very supportive of the TROOPS

He does a hell of a lot more than any other CONSERVATIVE MEDIA FIGURE including LIMBAUGH- SAVAGE etc etc

People on this site go WAY OVERBOARD at times


39 posted on 02/17/2005 4:58:25 AM PST by uncbob (Yep just watching a bunch of millionaires having fun almost like watching POLO)
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To: stevio; dead; Jim Robinson

Hannity must be thinking of doing his own "blog". That's why he attacked us. Did he mention Lucianne's site or does he even know it exists?


40 posted on 02/17/2005 4:58:37 AM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: stevio
The Question: Does Hannity sometimes get too sweety-sweety? Answer: Sure.

The Question:Is Hannity targeting the females on his program? Answer: Sure, and what's wrong with that?

The Question: Do I listen to Hannity? Answer: once in a while, but Rush is The Man!

The Question: Does FR ban opinion that doesn't fit with prescribed conservative opinion? The Answer: So much so that I may be banned for posting as tepid a response as this, and I have worked hard to keep it tepid.

41 posted on 02/17/2005 4:58:55 AM PST by 9999lakes
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Yes. And I'm sure he's upset that people like him aren't needed with sites like Freerepublic around, where people can get news unfiltered and form their own opinions prior to hearing Hannity's version of the truth.

"The inescapable truth is that he made his attack statement as part of a commercial pitch for his site."

42 posted on 02/17/2005 4:59:25 AM PST by monkapotamus (.)
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I'm with you. I haven't been on this site very long, but the people here are very classy - at least now (and I say this after being called a Green, a Troll, a Newbie, and a bunch of other names, only because I oppose a Republican govornor's attempt to turn Texas into the toll road capital of America).

I have heard that this site was more radical in the past, and that may be where Sean left off from (as he stated). Being a talk-radio host is very difficult, unlike the written word, you cannot go back and edit your remarks before posting. You have to live with what you say (which is part of what makes Rush so amazing). I think that Sean just lost control of his mouth for a moment - he is a good guy, so I'd expect him to apologize today.
43 posted on 02/17/2005 4:59:55 AM PST by BobL
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I am not happy with how he characterized this site. I am new here and have seen diversity of opinion. Yes, newbs like me get brutalized at first, but only if we do something out of the "norm" like post a vanity asking what a ping is.

However, his week in review on Friday with the guy doing voices is the funniest thing on the radio today. (Granted it's because of the guy who does the voices, but it's still on his show.)


44 posted on 02/17/2005 5:00:16 AM PST by JCRoberts (We're at war. You think we're going to win it with a bunch of fish-eaters...Denny Crane)
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Though Hannity gets on my nerves at times with his self-promotion, and while he is IMHO at best a 3.5 on a scale where Rush is a 9.5, I think you make a good case for him, and admire your willingness to speak out, knowing you'll take considerable flack.


45 posted on 02/17/2005 5:02:13 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show since 2002 so you don't have to.)
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To: stevio
Sean is like many people here. He only wants things his way, believes he can say anything he wants, but wants to limit the feedback on his thoughts and comments and expects that feedback to fit his comfort zone.

Hmmmm, sounds like he is a Freeper.

46 posted on 02/17/2005 5:02:35 AM PST by joesbucks
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But he didn't do that. He specifically stated that there are lots of good people who are "Freeps." His comments are in response to the nasty stuff that gets posted about him here on a regular basis. The guy's human. That stuff has got to hurt.

Go figure. But some here still express shock that he shoots back.

47 posted on 02/17/2005 5:02:55 AM PST by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: stevio

His inability to observse, converse, and interact with individuals who are out to harm this country - Rangell, Kerry, Churchill, et al - and not have the sense or balls or whatever you want to call it to nail these people as traitors and unAmerican is what galls me! He got where he is by a combination of hard work and groups like Freepers that started listening to him and alerated others to listen to him. Now, instead of reflecting on what people are saying, he turns on them. Maybe some here do go after him hard but others have right on insights regarding him.


48 posted on 02/17/2005 5:03:19 AM PST by 7thson (I think it takes a big dog to weigh a hundred pounds!)
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To: stevio

I agree with almost every comment made on both sides of this issue.


49 posted on 02/17/2005 5:03:32 AM PST by Gumption
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To: Mad Mammoth; All

What really angered me about Hannity's bashing of FR is that it is tied to his promotion of the discussion boards on his own site.

In other words, he is willing to sell down the river a good conservative site in order to attract more clicks, and $$$, to his own site. That is despicable.


50 posted on 02/17/2005 5:04:20 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show since 2002 so you don't have to.)
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