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Survey says: Tax the rich Americans
Auburn NY Citizen ^ | 2/17/05 | By The Citizen staff report

Posted on 02/17/2005 8:05:02 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines

A recent poll conducted by five New York legislators showed their constituents would support higher taxes on the wealthiest population to help pay for education.

Voters in all five districts strongly supported a new surcharge on incomes above $150,000, if the revenue was dedicated to providing additional aid to public schools.

The poll, which was presented Monday at the state legislative budget hearing on education funding, surveyed voter opinion in the districts of Senate Finance Committee Chairman Owen Johnson (R-Babylon), Assembly Ways and Means Committee Chairman Herman "Denny" Farrell (D-Manhattan), the Senate Education Committee Chairman Stephen Saland (R-Poughkeepsie), Assembly Education Committee Chairman Steven Sanders (D-Manhattan) and Assemblyman Chris Ortloff (R-Plattsburgh).

More than 60 percent of the voters in the five districts said if the governor vetoed a new surcharge, they would support a legislative override.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: babylon; extortion; manhattan; orqainizedtheft; plattsburgh; poughkeepsie; taxes
And we wonder why NY is going down the tubes faster and faster every day.
1 posted on 02/17/2005 8:05:09 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Voters in all five districts strongly supported a new surcharge on incomes above $150,000, if the revenue was dedicated to providing additional aid to public schools.

Haha, idiots. Tax them too much and rich people just LEAVE! Then you COMPLETELY lose the rich tax base. Isn't this what happened with big cities in the 1960s and 1970s? Taxes went too high and the people who could afford to move just fled to the suburbs.

2 posted on 02/17/2005 8:07:36 AM PST by xrp (Executing assigned posting duties flawlessly -- ZERO mistakes)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Survey says: Tax the rich Americans

Meaning... Make someone else pay for it. I don't want to.

3 posted on 02/17/2005 8:07:51 AM PST by Phantom Lord (Advantages are taken, not handed out)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Let's just cut to the chase and let me quit my job and raise taxes on the wealthy to 80%, they can afford it. It pays to be poor I guess, except for that not getting paid much thing.


4 posted on 02/17/2005 8:08:54 AM PST by One Proud Dad
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
I think they should just tax the politicians more.
5 posted on 02/17/2005 8:09:05 AM PST by demlosers
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Why does anyone still want to live in NY? Too bad, it's such a beautiful state.


6 posted on 02/17/2005 8:10:31 AM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Translation: Gimme more stuff, you evil rich people.


7 posted on 02/17/2005 8:11:19 AM PST by Modernman ("Normally, I don't listen to women, or doctors." - Captain Hero)
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To: Phantom Lord

TAX THEM NOT ME,

TAX THEE AND THEE AND THEE - BUT NOT ME

So this is what the Blue Staters believe and want us Red Staters to live like. More pensions for government hacks and less services.


8 posted on 02/17/2005 8:11:59 AM PST by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

I am FOR increasing taxes on the wealthy.........as long as employers, entrepreneurs, and investors are exempt. (:


9 posted on 02/17/2005 8:13:23 AM PST by wayoverontheright
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To: Phantom Lord
SURVEY SAAAYS


10 posted on 02/17/2005 8:14:34 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it.)
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To: One Proud Dad

Why not just have a 100% tax? Let's get it over with, this nickle and diming us to death is just silly. Then the gov can give us the money they think we deserve. LOL! Just think, everyone would quit their jobs for free money. No workers equals no money which eventually equals no gov and we get to start all over again, the way it was designed over 200 years ago.


11 posted on 02/17/2005 8:14:47 AM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Yes, I bet this surcharge would really hit home in Plattsburgh.


12 posted on 02/17/2005 8:15:41 AM PST by HostileTerritory
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Theft. Plunder the rich in the land of the "free." Why should parents be responsible for funding their own children's education when they can rob some rich stranger?


13 posted on 02/17/2005 8:16:05 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real politcal victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Indiana is getting ready to sqeeze the "rich," too. Rich means household income of over $100,000 in this case. Thanks, Mitch Daniels. Not to mention he is going to revoke our status as one of the last bastions of sanity by imposing DST.


14 posted on 02/17/2005 8:16:14 AM PST by mysterio
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Voters in all five districts strongly supported a new surcharge on incomes above $150,000, if the revenue was dedicated to providing additional aid to public schools.

There is education needed.

1) Dedicated funds don't mean squat. In many states where lotteries were set up to fund education the legislature reduced the education component from the general fund because the lotteries would now pay for that. Education did not get more. I can see the day where schoolkids are selling lottery tickets to their parents so the school can buy a new football stadium or what-not.

2) Taxes are always created for the wealthy and then imposed on the less wealthy. That's because there aren't enough wealthy to do anything meaningful. So they set some arbitrary number like $150,000 and give it a go and the legislature comes back and crys, "We aren't getting enough. All the rich people moved to Florida. We need to lower the threashold to $50,000." And you're screwed.

Shalom.

15 posted on 02/17/2005 8:16:44 AM PST by ArGee (Having homosexual sex makes as much sense as drinking beer through your a$$.)
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To: Modernman

Rich = All those not poor


16 posted on 02/17/2005 8:17:32 AM PST by Renkluaf
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To: Indy Pendance

... but that means I have to let go my social security hopes I have of living the good life when I retire.


17 posted on 02/17/2005 8:17:33 AM PST by One Proud Dad
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Sheesh! Can libs think of absolutely nothing new? The answer is always: Increase taxes! Give more money to our overwhelmingly liberal and ineffective public education system! More taxes! More money for education!

One would think that even they would begin to notice how profoundly shallow they sound!

18 posted on 02/17/2005 8:19:42 AM PST by TChris (Most people's capability for inference is severely overestimated)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

I'm really beginning to think it's something in the public water systems.


19 posted on 02/17/2005 8:19:44 AM PST by xcamel (Deep Red, stuck in a "bleu" state.)
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To: One Proud Dad

I suppose you could move to Cuba. :)


20 posted on 02/17/2005 8:20:42 AM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

At times like this, an old buddy used to say to me, "I never had a poor man offer ME a job". The old saying comes to mind, "given a vote, 51% of the polulation would strip the other 49% of all their rights" (and their money methinks). Isn't it great to live in a Federal Republic run by educated wealthy landowners so this won't happen? </sarc>


21 posted on 02/17/2005 8:20:52 AM PST by Lekker 1 ("Airplanes are interesting toys, but of no military value"-Ferdinand Foch, French War College, 1911)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
A recent poll conducted by five New York legislators showed their constituents would support higher taxes on the wealthiest population to help pay for education.

These people voted for Hillary. Nuff said.

22 posted on 02/17/2005 8:23:28 AM PST by Always Right
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
I hate to shout, but INCOME DOES NOT MEAN WEALTH!!! If Teresa Heinz-Kerry puts all of her money in a matress, she has no income. Does that make her poor?

If a working couple make $150,000 but all of their income is spent on housing, cars, child care, food, college, etc. and they have very little savings, are they rich?

We need Bolshevik Conservatism!! Soak the REAL Rich!! Tax all WEALTH over $10,000,000 at 100%!! THAT would fund all the schools you want.

Let's see if the Hollywood Left and Limosene Liberals agree to REALLY soak the REAL rich! Instead, they want to soak the hard-working upper middle class. They can BITE ME. /rant off

23 posted on 02/17/2005 8:24:39 AM PST by You Dirty Rats (Mindless BushBot)
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To: mysterio

I love how politicians and journalists are defining "rich" as an amount of income, rather than net worth. The reality is that taxes are designed to prevent anyone from ever becoming rich. Keeps us all relying on the Gov'ment for Soc Sec and Medicare.


24 posted on 02/17/2005 8:25:49 AM PST by 95Tarheel
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To: You Dirty Rats

Exactly.


25 posted on 02/17/2005 8:28:03 AM PST by 95Tarheel
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To: Always Right

And these are the same people who pay $400 a month for their rent controlled apartments - the same apartments that would cost $3,000 a month or more on the open market.


26 posted on 02/17/2005 8:31:43 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

The question is;Where is the tax money that should support education going??


28 posted on 02/17/2005 8:33:25 AM PST by Fast1 (Destroy America buy Chinese goods.)
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To: Renkluaf

To the dem-lib-socialists and the sheeple who hang on their every word, rich means anyone who makes more than they do.


29 posted on 02/17/2005 8:36:58 AM PST by Polyxene (For where God built a church, there the Devil would also build a chapel - Martin Luther)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

A tax on anyone is a tax on everyone.


30 posted on 02/17/2005 8:39:26 AM PST by Restore
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To: Fast1
The question is;Where is the tax money that should support education going??

Condoms, GLBT Agenda, abortion counseling, the really important stuff! At the school I work at every where I go I see baskets full of muticolored condoms. Oh, yeah, and hugh salaries for those wonderful teachers.

31 posted on 02/17/2005 8:49:54 AM PST by Calusa ( ... Oh, sweet Gaia, I'm gonna heave!")
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To: Calusa

I bet if you took a few of those condoms and made water balloons, finger puppets, or some quasi-art crap you'd get fired for being insensitive to the needs of sexual active kids or having a weapon ( balloon ).


32 posted on 02/17/2005 8:58:51 AM PST by One Proud Dad
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To: All

Look at what happened in California....tax revolt, recalled govorner and republican elected(OK, Republican Lite). Go ahead Hillary, raise those taxes.


33 posted on 02/17/2005 9:10:38 AM PST by texan75010 (You lost - MoveOn...to France, or Canada, or New Zealand, or Germany...take your pick.)
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To: texan75010

It seems all we do this days is water the weeds. Generally the poor in this country are the un-educated but we provide free education so generally the poor are the drop outs of america, those the don't care about the rest of us.

You either lead, follow or get out of the way. The poor decided to neither lead or follow and just sat down to let the rest do all the work. There is over 100 years of history on this group doing this in this country - why do you think some states are called Commonwealth?

They failed 100 years ago and people just never learn.

I was in Cabo mexico recently. I was amazed not seeing a single person begging on the streets - everyone works.

Too bad this does not happen in San Fran or NYC.


34 posted on 02/17/2005 9:19:40 AM PST by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Dedicated to education? Ha! Like the Lotto money is dedicated to education!!

They're too ignorant to see that the money is the general revenue pool is NOT dedicated to education. Every extra dollar taken IN from new sources is one dollar that will NOT come from the general revenue. There are no guarantees that education spending will even increase (let alone any guarantee that increased spending will do any good).

Pass tuition tax credits! Keep the Catholic schools open which will ease the overcrowding in the public schools.

TS

35 posted on 02/17/2005 9:22:56 AM PST by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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To: You Dirty Rats

Tax foundations that don't distribute their funds 100% over X years. Get the wealth back in the system, or tax it.


36 posted on 02/17/2005 9:43:26 AM PST by zek157
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