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Bush: We will support Israel if her security is threatened by Iran
Jerusalem Post ^ | Feb. 17, 2005

Posted on 02/17/2005 9:59:20 AM PST by IAF ThunderPilot

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Finally a clear statement from the US government about the Iranian threat.
1 posted on 02/17/2005 9:59:24 AM PST by IAF ThunderPilot
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To: Convert from ECUSA; Laffalot; SJackson; Alouette; SirLurkedalot; yonif; anotherview; dervish; ...

FRmail me to be added or removed from this Israel Defense Forces and Israel ping list. Here you will find news, articles and fascinating stories about the IDF and Israel.



2 posted on 02/17/2005 10:00:03 AM PST by IAF ThunderPilot (The basic point of the Israel Defense Forces: -Israel cannot afford to lose a single war.)
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To: Alouette; SJackson

News Information ping Thank you


3 posted on 02/17/2005 10:00:33 AM PST by anonymoussierra (Alles wurde durch dasselbe! revelatur enim ira Dei de caelo)
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To: IAF ThunderPilot

How will we defend against Iran unilaterally dropping a nuke on Israel?


4 posted on 02/17/2005 10:00:55 AM PST by My2Cents ("Friends stab you from the front." -- Oscar Wilde)
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To: IAF ThunderPilot; All

""But clearly, if I was the leader of Israel and I'd listened to some of the statements by the Iranian ayatollahs that regarded the security of my country, I'd be concerned about Iran having a nuclear weapon as well," Bush said.

He said Israel "is our ally and in that we've made a very strong commitment to support Israel, we will support Israel if her security is threatened.""Thank YOU!!!


5 posted on 02/17/2005 10:02:18 AM PST by anonymoussierra (Alles wurde durch dasselbe! revelatur enim ira Dei de caelo)
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To: My2Cents; IAF ThunderPilot

The gist of GWB's statement should be read as "America doesn't mind Israel taking out Iran's N-installations should she feel at risk".


6 posted on 02/17/2005 10:03:22 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: My2Cents

The point is to stop Iran before "dropping a bomb", because if Iran drops a bomb, there will be no need for US military aid-
The middle east will be wiped out by the Israeli response.


7 posted on 02/17/2005 10:03:30 AM PST by IAF ThunderPilot (The basic point of the Israel Defense Forces: -Israel cannot afford to lose a single war.)
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To: My2Cents

"How will we defend against Iran unilaterally dropping a nuke on Israel?"

Shortly after Israel is nuked we nuke Iran. We will be defended against Iran doing it to us- sorry Israel.


8 posted on 02/17/2005 10:06:15 AM PST by JeffersonRepublic.com (The 51st state is right around the corner.)
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To: IAF ThunderPilot

Zalts em in der oygen, zol en krenken. That's what I say to Iran.


9 posted on 02/17/2005 10:07:10 AM PST by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: IAF ThunderPilot
GWB to Israel:

10 posted on 02/17/2005 10:07:46 AM PST by adam_az (UN out of the US! - http://www.moveamericaforward.org/?Page=Petition)
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To: IAF ThunderPilot
Israel "is our ally and in that we've made a very strong commitment to support Israel, we will support Israel if her security is threatened."

Crystal Clear

11 posted on 02/17/2005 10:16:35 AM PST by SmithL (Proud Submariner)
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To: IAF ThunderPilot
Roger that.

And I hope one of those nukes is aimed at Mecca. Then, "TROP" would have no holy place due to their "peace"

12 posted on 02/17/2005 10:16:40 AM PST by joedelta (Those who long for peace must prepare for war)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Maybe that's his between-the-lines message. However, I wonder how Israel feels about having to be the one to stand up to this threat...alone....again.


13 posted on 02/17/2005 10:19:29 AM PST by My2Cents ("Friends stab you from the front." -- Oscar Wilde)
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To: IAF ThunderPilot
It is just about time to stop playing this game. A good defense is a strong offense.
 
What are we going to do, wait until Iran drops the big one? 24 hours of selective targeting should just about take care of these arrogant idiots.
 
We are not looking for immediate regime change in either Syria or Iran, although it wouldn't bother us in the least, but we cannot wait until they draw first blood. That is a recipe for disaster.

14 posted on 02/17/2005 10:19:46 AM PST by Allosaurs_r_us (Idaho Carnivores for Conservatism)
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Death the mullahs!  The mullahs must be killed!

15 posted on 02/17/2005 10:21:32 AM PST by SunkenCiv ("Are you an over due book? Because you've got FINE written all over you!")
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To: My2Cents
How will we defend against Iran unilaterally dropping a nuke on Israel?

Give the go-ahead to Israel to take out their nuke facilities before they deliver a payload.

16 posted on 02/17/2005 10:22:03 AM PST by Alouette (Learned Mother of Zion)
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To: My2Cents

Well, we were alone in 1967 (Six Day War), we were isolated in the international arena and threatened by the combined forces of 8 Arab countries which declared their goal as the destruction of Israel.

Yet, we all know what happened in June, 1967 within 6 days...

So, there is nothing new under the sun.


17 posted on 02/17/2005 10:24:17 AM PST by IAF ThunderPilot (The basic point of the Israel Defense Forces: -Israel cannot afford to lose a single war.)
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To: IAF ThunderPilot

I have a picture on my PC at home of an Israeli F-15I breaking-off from a USAF KC-10 refueling boom. I saw the pic on an Air Force website, and at the time thought, "Hmmm...Why would the Israeli Air Force need to have the ability to refuel mid-air? Long range mission training, perhaps?" (I suspect regular airborne patrolling may require mid-air refueling...I don't know.) At any rate, I kept the picture as a reminder and symbol of Israeli resolve to do whatever is necessary to defend Israel BEFORE an aggressor strikes.


18 posted on 02/17/2005 10:25:53 AM PST by My2Cents ("Friends stab you from the front." -- Oscar Wilde)
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To: My2Cents

We tell Tehran in advance that every major city in their country has already been mapped and targeted. If they attack Israel, Iran will be turned into a roiling mass of molten glass. Afterward, we give the remains to Haliburton.


19 posted on 02/17/2005 10:26:56 AM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (This just in from CBS: "There is no bias at CBS")
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To: IAF ThunderPilot

Hope Isreal leads another midnight attack on Iran's nuke building plants.

That would be great.


20 posted on 02/17/2005 10:27:38 AM PST by zbigreddogz
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To: My2Cents

The new F-15Is and F-16Is are equipped with special Israeli made fuel tanks so those jets are capable reaching targets as far as Afganisthan, without refuling.
Iran is within range.


21 posted on 02/17/2005 10:30:47 AM PST by IAF ThunderPilot (The basic point of the Israel Defense Forces: -Israel cannot afford to lose a single war.)
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To: IAF ThunderPilot

So true!

And finally a president who knows honor and has a strong commitment to the truth.


22 posted on 02/17/2005 10:31:34 AM PST by KimmyJaye (Susan Estrich: A face for radio and a voice for pantomime.)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

I wonder if the Iranian mullahs even care about the potential loss life among their people? I'd like to see some surgical strikes to take down the government, all military installations, and all "holy sites." What's scary is that one of their key leaders is publicly on record saying that the minute they have an operational nuke, it will be dropped on Israel.


23 posted on 02/17/2005 10:31:35 AM PST by My2Cents ("Friends stab you from the front." -- Oscar Wilde)
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To: IAF ThunderPilot

Excellent! You guys rock! I'm glad we're on your side.


24 posted on 02/17/2005 10:34:01 AM PST by My2Cents ("Friends stab you from the front." -- Oscar Wilde)
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To: IAF ThunderPilot


25 posted on 02/17/2005 10:34:06 AM PST by Incorrigible (immanentizing the eschaton)
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To: IAF ThunderPilot; LadyPilgrim; All

"The point is to stop Iran before "dropping a bomb", because if Iran drops a bomb, there will be no need for US military aid-
The middle east will be wiped out by the Israeli response."This is total truth!!! This is not 1939-1945 not again Izrael have power now many country Egipt Jordania Syria Leban itp...do know this power 1948–49 1956 1967 1973–74 1981 1982 Thank you


26 posted on 02/17/2005 10:39:22 AM PST by anonymoussierra (Alles wurde durch dasselbe! revelatur enim ira Dei de caelo)
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To: IAF ThunderPilot
America has no choice but to support Israel in this matter. Today, Iran threatens Israel. Tomorrow, if given enough time to build up its arsenal of nuclear weapons, Tehran will threaten the United States with these weapons as well.

The islamic funamentalism of the mad mullahs is a growing cancer that must be excised.
27 posted on 02/17/2005 10:39:50 AM PST by reagan_fanatic ("Darwinism is a belief in the meaninglessness of existence" - R. Kirk)
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To: My2Cents

If Israel doesn't "rock", there will be no Israel to talk about.

We learned the lesson from 1948 (Independence War), 1956 (Sinai War), 1963-67 (War Over the Water), 1967 (Six Day War), 1969-70 (War of Attrition), 1973 (Yom Kippur War), 1981 (The destruction of the Iraqi nuclear reactor), 1982 (Operation Peace For Galilee- Lebanon War), 2000-2005 (Palestinian "Intifada") :)


28 posted on 02/17/2005 10:43:57 AM PST by IAF ThunderPilot (The basic point of the Israel Defense Forces: -Israel cannot afford to lose a single war.)
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To: adam_az

Chuckle!


29 posted on 02/17/2005 10:45:16 AM PST by Donna Lee Nardo
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To: JeffersonRepublic.com

Does anyone have a reliable source for what the actual (behind the scenes/secret) security arrangement is between the US and Israel.

My guess-

1. Israeli bases and aircraft would assist the US and fly joint missions; if they were needed in a major crisis.
In the long run it is cheaper for the US to give Israel modern Aircraft and let the Israelis fly, base and maintain the planes; than it is for us to maintain another 10 carrier battle groups.(We give them several billion in foreign aid which they turn around and use to buy military aircraft from us. Originally this was done to counteract threat of Soviet seizure of gulf oil)

2. If the survival of Israel was really at stake the US would step in, immediately.

3. A nuclear or large scale WMD attack on Israel would bring massive US retaliation.

4. CIA, NSA, FBI and State department contain dozens of Israeli sympathizers/agents. The US accepts the fact, that it can keep no secrets from Israeli security. (Pollard was prosecuted because the US was unhappy that the info he stole ended up in Soviet hands)

5. Israel will not use nuclear weapons without US approval. They will not mount a major attack (outside of Lebanon or Syria) without US Approval.

6. Mossad is free to operate in US; but may only kill actual foreign agents.

7. US Israeli, AWACS and other communication and combat control systems are compatible, have been tested and work together.


30 posted on 02/17/2005 10:48:18 AM PST by Jonah Johansen
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...
If you'd like to be on this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.
31 posted on 02/17/2005 10:56:24 AM PST by SJackson ( Bush is as free as a bird, He is only accountable to history and God, Ra'anan Gissin)
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"The middle east will be wiped out by the Israeli response."

This is the same Israel that for years did nothing while hundreds of its citizens were bombed in its streets?.

The same Israel that allowed the biggest killer of Jews since Hitler to live in Israel?

The same Israel that is currently capitulating to terrorists?

The only "response" Israel has given to genocidal terror is to bend over and take it, which is why we're talking about nukes today.

Bad strategy.

32 posted on 02/17/2005 11:01:52 AM PST by sarah_f ( Know Islam, Know Terror.)
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To: Jonah Johansen

I must say that you are terribly wrong in some parts of your guess.


33 posted on 02/17/2005 11:02:52 AM PST by IAF ThunderPilot (The basic point of the Israel Defense Forces: -Israel cannot afford to lose a single war.)
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To: sarah_f

Yeah, that and stopping some massive Arab armies, 7 times, from destroying the state, plus preforming operations such as the Entebbe Operation of 1976, Iraq's nuclear reactor bombing of 1981, PLO bombings in Tunis of 1985 and thats only 1% of the operations you know about (because 99% are secret).


34 posted on 02/17/2005 11:06:26 AM PST by IAF ThunderPilot (The basic point of the Israel Defense Forces: -Israel cannot afford to lose a single war.)
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To: My2Cents

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/863049/posts

No they don't care. All that matters is the destruction of Israel.


35 posted on 02/17/2005 11:25:01 AM PST by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: IAF ThunderPilot

We always pray for the peace of Jerusalem. Bless you all.


36 posted on 02/17/2005 11:28:50 AM PST by My2Cents ("Friends stab you from the front." -- Oscar Wilde)
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To: Eagles6

Many thanks for the link.


37 posted on 02/17/2005 11:31:38 AM PST by My2Cents ("Friends stab you from the front." -- Oscar Wilde)
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To: My2Cents

Thank you!
May you be blessed back.


38 posted on 02/17/2005 11:33:29 AM PST by IAF ThunderPilot (The basic point of the Israel Defense Forces: -Israel cannot afford to lose a single war.)
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To: IAF ThunderPilot

The Israel of old is not the Israel of today.

On a related topic, even Dr. Daniel Pipes just stated he didn't think Israel was capable of eliminating Iran's nuclear program.

Osirak was almost a quarter century ago. The Iranians learned from their mistake.


39 posted on 02/17/2005 11:38:00 AM PST by sarah_f ( Know Islam, Know Terror.)
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To: IAF ThunderPilot

You forgot my favorite, taking Syria's SAM's out of Beruit with a flight of "modified" A-4 Skyhawks without a single plane lost.


40 posted on 02/17/2005 11:39:03 AM PST by joedelta (Those who long for peace must prepare for war)
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To: sarah_f

Listen Mrs, I dont know how much you know about the current palestinian "intifada", but you probably have no idea about how many attacks the IDF prevented, how many terrorists were targeted by the Israeli Air Force and the Israeli Special Forces and how many Israeli lives were saved.

Since September 2000, more than 1000 Israelis were murdered in the Palestinian terror attacks, yet about 10,000 were saved thanks to the IDF and the policy of the Israeli government, led by PM Ariel Sharon.

If you have a better and realistic suggestion on how to fight terrorism, you are welcome to send e-mail to the Knesset/ Ariel Sharon etc. Or perhaps you should just become the new Israeli Defense Minister.

To be honest, I dont think that there is any other nation in the world that had to fight so many times for its right to exist and for teh freedom of its poeple since World War-II.
the IDF is preforming operations day and night in the purpuse of maintaining the life normal in Israel through "visiting" the palestinian territories and "visiting" outside of Israel, in the Wild Middle East, every day and every hour.

So please, before you launch your oral attacks, perhaps you should join an elite IDF unit and join to their missions.

Free Republic is such an interesting forum:

On one hand, I need to confront anti-Israeli posts claiming Israel is murdering innocent palestinians, and on the other hand, I need to confront anti-Israeli posts claiming Israel is not doing enough for its security.

Thank GOD that 95% of Freepers are pro-Israel.


41 posted on 02/17/2005 11:58:07 AM PST by IAF ThunderPilot (The basic point of the Israel Defense Forces: -Israel cannot afford to lose a single war.)
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To: joedelta

You are probably talking about this:

-June 8, 1982- The Peace For Galilee operation (The Lebanon War): The destruction of the entire Soviet-Syrian air-defense system in Lebanon within few hours without a single warplane lost- Syria with the Soviet Union built up an overlapping network of SAMs, and the density of SAM site locations was unmatched anywhere in the world including the Soviet Union itself.
Also the IAF achieved a number of 100 Syrian planes shoot-downs, 88 of them in dogfights, without a single Israeli plane being shot down in dogfights.
The IAF proved that it has learned from the mistakes of the Yom Kippur War and proved once again that it is master of the skies.

;)


42 posted on 02/17/2005 11:59:47 AM PST by IAF ThunderPilot (The basic point of the Israel Defense Forces: -Israel cannot afford to lose a single war.)
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To: Convert from ECUSA

A ping that you'll like!


43 posted on 02/17/2005 12:03:31 PM PST by IAF ThunderPilot (The basic point of the Israel Defense Forces: -Israel cannot afford to lose a single war.)
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To: IAF ThunderPilot

Yep. God, how I cheered when I heard about that!


44 posted on 02/17/2005 12:13:35 PM PST by joedelta (Those who long for peace must prepare for war)
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To: IAF ThunderPilot

There is a valid point though: The Iranians have modelled their nuclear facilities completely on the assumption that the US or Israel will come knocking. Hence we know they have widely scattered facilities, deeply buried, soeme in civilian neighbourhoods, etc. It will be more difficult then Osiraq by an orderr of magnitude and may well require teams on the ground co-ordinating the strikes.


45 posted on 02/17/2005 12:14:41 PM PST by Androcles (All your typos are belong to us)
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To: IAF ThunderPilot

We will support Israel if her security is threatened by Iran

............................................................

Britain, France and Israel are female but what is America?
Is it referred to as her or his?


46 posted on 02/17/2005 12:16:24 PM PST by kingsurfer
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To: Jonah Johansen

It's about time we acknowledged Israel as a full partner with the US in the war on terror.


47 posted on 02/17/2005 12:21:38 PM PST by My2Cents ("Friends stab you from the front." -- Oscar Wilde)
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To: sarah_f
even Dr. Daniel Pipes just stated he didn't think Israel was capable of eliminating Iran's nuclear program.

It seems as though Bush is saying to Israel, "If ya need a pair of brass balls, here...borrow mine."

48 posted on 02/17/2005 12:24:22 PM PST by My2Cents ("Friends stab you from the front." -- Oscar Wilde)
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To: IAF ThunderPilot

:)


49 posted on 02/17/2005 12:28:23 PM PST by Convert from ECUSA (tired of all the shucking and jiving)
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To: Androcles

No one is saying that a specific operation will be easy, however, never say "impossible".

I'll explain this through one of my favorite quotes:

"If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert."
-David Ben-Gurion, the first Prime Minister of Israel.


50 posted on 02/17/2005 1:15:20 PM PST by IAF ThunderPilot (The basic point of the Israel Defense Forces: -Israel cannot afford to lose a single war.)
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