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How Was the Dummy Right About Iraq?
GROVE CITY COLLEGE.EDU ^ | FEBRUARY 16, 2005 | PAUL KENGOR

Posted on 02/17/2005 4:09:07 PM PST by CHARLITE

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To: Happy2BMe

Yeah, there will always be a debate because there will always be resistance from the Left to giving Reagan his due.


21 posted on 02/17/2005 4:41:38 PM PST by Aetius
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To: Aetius; blackie; Reaganwuzthebest
Amazing how history can rewritten from its factual account in less than a mere 20 years.

The Reagan Legacy

22 posted on 02/17/2005 5:10:38 PM PST by Happy2BMe (Long ago and far, far away there once was a shining land they called "America" . . .)
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To: GarySpFc
Ping.

Who was more responsible for the fall of the Berlin Wall - Michel Gorbachev or Ronald Reagan?

23 posted on 02/17/2005 5:14:47 PM PST by Happy2BMe (Long ago and far, far away there once was a shining land they called "America" . . .)
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To: RockinRye
he'll be run out of town

I believe Grove City College is one of the most conservative in the nation.

24 posted on 02/17/2005 5:20:48 PM PST by Monti Cello (We've got to move these refrigerators. We've got to move these color TVs.)
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To: CHARLITE

It wouldn't surprise me, in about 30 years or so, that lie-brils will try to rewrite history and say that George Bush pursued the only path he could because of Osama Bin Laden.
The whole country clamored for a war after 9/11 and GW just wasn't morally strong enough to stand up a against a war-mongering bunch of neocons.


25 posted on 02/17/2005 5:20:56 PM PST by Brett66 (W1 W1 W1 W1 W1 W1 W1 W1)
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To: CHARLITE
It wasn't just the loony left which was busy slamming President Bush's push for freedom and democracy in the Middle East. Among the leftist's voices raised were the UberKonservativ loonies who still do not miss a chance to calumniate and smear Islam as satanic and Muslims as Untermenchen.
26 posted on 02/17/2005 5:28:14 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: CHARLITE
Lets see....you can go to Grove City College and learn from the likes of Paul Kengor

-or-

You could go to the University of Colorado and learn from Ward Churchill.

tough decision eh?

I just wish some top notch football recruit would stand up and say...

"It was my initial intent to accept a football scholarship from the University of Colorado, but after seeing the quality of staff heading up some of the departments there, I have decided to attend....."

27 posted on 02/17/2005 5:34:49 PM PST by NeonKnight
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To: Monti Cello
I believe Grove City College is one of the most conservative in the nation.

Its a small very conservative school that is often rated in the top twenty for value, has a low tuition, and takes absolutely no governement money. Thye even took the feds all the way to the Supreme Court, used students to help develope the case, and won!! Really pretty in a small town. (hat tip to the wiz...from Iraq The Model.)

28 posted on 02/17/2005 5:37:03 PM PST by NeonKnight
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To: CHARLITE

"how was 'the dummy' right about Iraq?"

Uhh... maybe because he's 'not dumb.'? maybe?


29 posted on 02/17/2005 5:38:46 PM PST by Terriergal (What is the meaning of life?? Man's chief end is to glorify God and to enjoy him for ever.)
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To: CHARLITE
Dr. Kengor has it right - but make no mistake about it, Reagan and their crummy system brought down the USSR.
30 posted on 02/17/2005 5:39:37 PM PST by RAY (They that do right are all heroes!)
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To: Happy2BMe
Amazing how history can rewritten from its factual account in less than a mere 20 years.

The liberal revisionists were actually at it in the nineties saying RR had little to do with it but that communism would have collapsed with or without him.

They will never give credit where it's due...

31 posted on 02/17/2005 5:55:44 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Fintan; CHARLITE

Alot of people don't know their history. Do some reading on Hitler's rise to power and all will learn that Hitler was never elected.

Yes, he did have a political party but it was marginal. Hitler was brought in as part of a coalition. It was surprising to him and his party for they thought they had been defeated completely, never to rise as high again.

Once part of the coalition government, Hitler was appointed Chancellor because of his anti-communist views and the communists at that time were viewed by peaceable Germans as an enormous threat.

Thereafter, it is suspected that Hitler's henchman murdered Von Hindenberg or caused his death. This is what opened the door to power for Hitler.

There are many Freepers that are fine historians and know this history far better than most in the media.

But Jamie Rubin shows his incredible lack of historical knowledge by stating 'Hitler was elected' and then using that error to infer a comparison with the Iraqi election. And to think that Rubin person held a high profile position in the Clinton Administration.


32 posted on 02/17/2005 6:04:32 PM PST by Hostage
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
We both know it's a lie.

The victory won in Iraqi Freedom was fast and furious and changed the face of that nation for generations.

The victory won against the Soviet Union was arduous, long and hard and met stiff resistance domestically and globally and changed the history of the entire world for centuries.

33 posted on 02/17/2005 6:20:01 PM PST by Happy2BMe (Long ago and far, far away there once was a shining land they called "America" . . .)
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To: Happy2BMe
We both know it's a lie.

Their hero is JFK, who talked the talk but did little. Witness the Cubans who were abandoned at the Bay of Pigs.

RR on the other hand walked it, that's what they can't stand.

34 posted on 02/17/2005 6:32:05 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: CHARLITE
The Howard Deans and Ted Kennedys will be seen as crass, shortsighted men.

In the same mold as Jimmy Carter.

Neville Chamberlains all.

35 posted on 02/17/2005 6:33:51 PM PST by Tom Bombadil
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To: CHARLITE
MAGNIFICIENT! Thanks for posting it.
36 posted on 02/17/2005 6:55:53 PM PST by Lady In Blue ( President 'SEABISCUIT' AKA George W Bush)
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To: rhombus
Tell your 20 something that this 40 something participated in activatng a few nuclear B52 alert aircraft under President Reagan.
We were NOT "bluffing" or "posturing for diplomatic affect".
It is now widely considered a "game" only by those who were not actual players.
37 posted on 02/17/2005 6:58:07 PM PST by sarasmom
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To: CHARLITE

Jamie Rubin is the husband of Christiane Amanpour. He's not only delusional, he's blind as a bat.


38 posted on 02/17/2005 7:10:13 PM PST by auboy (Saying and doing are often miles apart.)
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To: CHARLITE

"Rubin growled: “Yeah, Adolf Hitler won in Germany.”

A side issue perhaps, but I wish people would stop saying this. It is a mere slander on democratic elections. Hitler, of course, took power as the result of a byzantine power struggle among Nazi factions, Centrists, and Rightists in an anti-communist maneuver. Hitler was a party leader, annointed Chancellor by Hindenburg in 1933.

He was not elected to office. Nor was he ever elected thereafter.


39 posted on 02/17/2005 7:30:05 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Cultural Jihad

Untermenschen? Isn't that what Haj Amin al Husseini(Hitler's houseguest for a number of years) called Jews, and helped organize the Hanjar(Bosnian Muslim SS)to exterminate them and the Serbs?


40 posted on 02/17/2005 7:37:05 PM PST by sheik yerbouty
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