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"Shut Up, and ACT!" Hollywood conservatives plan "Rally for Responsibility" at Academy Awards (2/27)
thirdplanet.tv ^ | February 19, 2005 | Jeffers Dodge, Ted Hayes, RonDog

Posted on 02/19/2005 7:06:36 AM PST by RonDog

Let Hollywood know that with Freedom of Speech comes RESPONSIBILITY.



Outside the 77th annual
ACADEMY AWARDS
in Hollywood, California



February 27, 2005 - 12 noon
Corner Hollywood and Whitley
3 blocks east of Highland
.

-RETURN HOLLYWOOD TO AMERICA-
-TAKE BACK HOLLYWOOD-




We need some volunteers to show up and hang with Ted Hayes and Ron Smith
at the corner of Hollywood and Highland at 6AM.

Contact Ted or Ron for details.

The rest of you can show up at 12 noon at Hollywood and WHITLEY
to march three blocks west on Hollywood to the corner of HIGHLAND.




Southern California CONSERVATIVES:



Please JOIN US on Sunday, February 27
(from noon to 5 pm)

under the "Thank you, Hollywood!" billboard at
Hollywood Blvd and Whitley Ave.



The following organizations are sponsoring a rally at this year's Academy Awards
to let Hollywood know that with Freedom of Speech
comes RESPONSIBILITY:


HOLLYWOOD CONGRESS OF REPUBLICANS
Mark Vafiades mark@hollywoodrepublicans.com

SAN FERNANDO VALLEY TOWNHALL CONSERVATIVES
Gary Aminoff - gaminoff@aminoff.com

SANTA MONICA/L.A. WESTSIDE TOWNHALL CONSERVATIVES
Veronica Olofsson - onemoreolo@aol.com

SANTA MONICA COLLEGE REPUBLICANS
Shane Smith - SMITH_SHANE@smc.edu

COMMITTEE TO SUPPORT LA COUNTY SEAL
David Hernandez - drhassoc@earthlink.net

THE SOUTH CENTRAL REPUBLICAN CLUB
Austin Dragon - contact@sclagop.org

UNITED AMERICAN COMMITTEE
Jesse Petrilla - Jpetrilla@questforsaddam.com

L. A. FOR BUSH
Genevieve Peters - genevieve@laforbush.com

HOLLYWOOD RESISTANCE FORCE (with the Free Republic Network)
RonDog Smith - ronsmith@quixnet.net

AMERICAN BLACK ELEPHANTS
Ted Hayes - TheTedShow@aol.com

PopUpUSA.com
Jeffers Dodge - jeffers@popupusa.com


 



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1 posted on 02/19/2005 7:06:39 AM PST by RonDog
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To: RonDog

I'd support a "Shut up and get a real job" rally. Or maybe, "Shut up and act your age." Or perhaps, "Shut up and act like you're packing up and leaving the hemisphere."


2 posted on 02/19/2005 7:11:58 AM PST by the invisib1e hand ("remember, from ashes you came, to ashes you will return.")
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To: RonDog
Please JOIN US on Sunday, February 27
(from noon to 5 pm)

under the "Thank you, Hollywood!" billboard...

That would be THIS marvelous creation:


from
www.citizensunited.org

3 posted on 02/19/2005 7:13:16 AM PST by RonDog
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To: RonDog

I'm always amazed that so many who are merely adept at mouthing the words of those with more intelligence and talent, actually think that they are intelligent.


4 posted on 02/19/2005 7:13:35 AM PST by Socratic (Ignorant and free? It's not to be. - T. Jefferson (paraphrase))
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To: RonDog

That is just cool. Wish I could beeee in Californeeee that day. Hope you get some TV coverage.


5 posted on 02/19/2005 7:15:40 AM PST by manic4organic (We won. Get over it.)
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To: RonDog
From Yahoo! MAPS:

star Whitley Ave At Hollywood Blvd Los Angeles, CA 90028

proposed FReep location

6 posted on 02/19/2005 7:15:52 AM PST by RonDog
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To: the invisib1e hand
SHUT UP,
AND
ACT!

Our inspiration for this theme, of course, is:


image from
www.amazon.com

7 posted on 02/19/2005 7:21:58 AM PST by RonDog
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To: Socratic
Or as I've said:

"They have pretended to be someone important for so long that they have come to believe that they are."

Worse, much of America acts as though that is true.

8 posted on 02/19/2005 7:24:15 AM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: RonDog
A mel Gibson fan sends a message to Follywood.


9 posted on 02/19/2005 7:28:13 AM PST by Liz (Wise men are instructed by reason; lesser men, by experience; the ignorant, by necessity. Cicero)
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To: bill1952
THE HOLLYWOOD CREED:

Christians are evil.

Capitalism creates oppression; government creates opportunity.

Traditional gender roles are artificial but feminism and homosexuality are government-protected lifestyles.

Self-esteem is paramount; government must undertake to guarantee each citizen-victim self-esteem no matter the cost.

The ACLU is good, because destroying religion and silencing believers are protected by the Constitution and the First Amendment; The NRA is bad because it defends the Constitution.

Standardized IQ tests are racist; racial quotas and affirmative action are not. Conservatives are racists; everybody knows that Black people can't make it on their own without big-buck government assistance programs and Hollyweirdos to proselytize the message 24/7.

Abortion is a natural right. The Founders just forgot to put it in the Constitution.

Normal sex is perverted. Threesomes, bestiality, necrophilia, homosexuality are just new ways to get a thrill.

Moral indignation is a liberal's standard strategy for endowing our output with superiority.

Victimization is our basic belief by which we blame and find others responsible for our own personal failures, then expect taxpayers, deep-pocketed individuals, or the courts to bail us out. It feels good to be in the throes of "victimization" and either A) causing victims, B) concocting victims, C) playing victim, D) commiserating over victims, or E) creating another class of victims to bleed over.

It's a liberal's duty to treat Middle America in the manner of raising mushrooms, that is to say, keep them in the dark and feed them lots of horse manure.

Women are to be valued only for their cleavage.

The traditional family is archaic, constricting, with no redeeming value. Parents that try to guide their children's choices are restrictive. Kids need to be "free".

Extreme movie and TV violence and explicit sex for the thrill of it is good because it is profitable.

Hollywood firmly believes that 24/7 of the sexually salacious and violent TV, movies and music we produce are not harming kids and the culture.

OTOH, we also believe----with the religious fervor of Tammy Faye Baker---- that a single 15-sec commercial will compel tens of millions of Americans into thousands of stores to buy billions of dollars worth of soap, soup, breakfast cereal and cars.

10 posted on 02/19/2005 7:30:23 AM PST by Liz (Wise men are instructed by reason; lesser men, by experience; the ignorant, by necessity. Cicero)
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To: AnnaZ; feinswinesuksass; DoughtyOne; Cinnamon Girl; Tony in Hawaii; Bob J; diotima; gc4nra; ...
See also THIS thread, about the "tolerance" and "diversity" crowd's reaction to dissenting opinions:

Hollywood Vandals Brand Bush a Nazi
Human Events ^ | Feb 18, 2005
Posted on 02/18/2005 2:08:03 PM PST by West Coast Conservative



We previously reported the conservative group, Citizens United, planned to erect two pro-Bush billboards in Hollywood "thanking" Hollywood for Bush's reelection. As planned, the signs were created, coinciding with the buildup to Oscar night. However, one of those tongue-in-cheek billboards was seriously vandalized Wednesday night, when a Swastika was painted on President Bush's forehead.

Few Angeleans saw the disfigured sign though, since Citizens United anticipated the vandalism, and had previously arranged with the sign company that their billboards would be immediately repaired if, in fact, they were damaged.

True to their word, the overnight damage was repaired within hours...

CLICK HERE for the rest of that thread

11 posted on 02/19/2005 7:33:12 AM PST by RonDog
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To: RonDog

ahh. yes, she can be inspiring.


12 posted on 02/19/2005 7:34:19 AM PST by the invisib1e hand ("remember, from ashes you came, to ashes you will return.")
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To: RonDog
It's about time the entertainment business came clean about its profits and losses and how they account to shareholders for the bottom line.

It's difficult to believe the industry is upfront about the revenue from shows we see and hear--like slobola Howard Stern and Ellen Degenerate---and whether advertisers are being told the truth about ratings, which affect ad rates they are required to pay.

Example, many remain skeptical that the smutty Stern show or the Ellen DeGenerate crapola are hits, or even partially succesful.

We need to determine whether the networks are cooking the books, whether they are fraudulenetly pumping ratings numbers in order to sell ads and keep politically-correct shows like Degenerate on the air, and whether advertisers were co-opted into buying ads, and paid higher ad rates by providing false ratings.

We need to know whether networks deceived audiences, and provided false ratings in order to keep losing shows on the air.

We need to know whether broadcasters filed false documents with the FCC with regard to its broadcasting practices, and whether slobolas like Stern and Degenerate filed misleading state and federal documents.

Finally, we need to know whether broadcasters made accurate staments to the IRS about its advertising income, and its corporate income and outgo.

The IRS should determine whether broadcasters misused corporate reserve accounts, concealing losses, inflating asset values and improperly accounting for transactions, as well as deferring profits into reserve accounts, improperly shifting capital funding to other projects to hide illegal payments, and so on.

Any of these practices could jeopardize the financial interests of stockholders and compel the SEC to step in.

Anyone with concerns about these issues, you should contact the SEC here: enforcement@SEC.gov.

Most importantly--- let's not forget that whatever advertisers pay for TV ads impacts on consumers b/c advertising costs are passed on to consumers.

The SEC, FTC, and the DOJ should take steps to ascertain whether the HOllywood entertainment business and the ABCCBSNBC netwroks are in accordance with requirements of the Sarbanes Oxley Act.

13 posted on 02/19/2005 7:38:14 AM PST by Liz (Wise men are instructed by reason; lesser men, by experience; the ignorant, by necessity. Cicero)
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To: All
CBS CORPORATE



14 posted on 02/19/2005 7:42:45 AM PST by Liz (Wise men are instructed by reason; lesser men, by experience; the ignorant, by necessity. Cicero)
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To: RonDog
Didn't she look super gorgeous at the RNC?
Pay no attention to the flamer whose name shall not be spoken.


15 posted on 02/19/2005 7:49:11 AM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: Socratic
I'm always amazed that so many who are merely adept at mouthing the words of those with more intelligence and talent, actually think that they are intelligent.

I am not as kind as you.

Not only are they masters at mouthing others' ideas, they are also perfect mimics to the point that it is their second nature to lie with a straight face.
Nary a ripple on the ol' Lie-O-meter

16 posted on 02/19/2005 7:52:33 AM PST by Publius6961
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To: RonDog

Responsibility about what? I just think they should keep their left-wing politics to themselves, otherwise the marketplace should rule as to what does or doesn't get made. I don't want the moral majority determining what kind of movies get made - that would totally suck.


17 posted on 02/19/2005 7:57:56 AM PST by OmegaMan
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To: Liz; doug from upland; ALOHA RONNIE; DLfromthedesert; PatiPie; flamefront; onyx; SMEDLEYBUTLER; ...
See also, from:
Billboard Delivers Right Jab To Hollywood
Internet Broadcasting Systems ^ | February 10, 2005
Posted on 02/11/2005 12:58:43 PM PST by West Coast Conservative



LOS ANGELES -- A conservative group is giving thanks where thanks is not wanted.

Citizens United posted a billboard thanking Hollywood stars for contributing to the re-election of President George W. Bush.

The billboard includes the text "4 More Years ... Thank You Hollywood!" It features pictures of Michael Moore, Whoopi Goldberg, Ben Affleck, Chevy Chase, Martin Sheen, Barbra Streisand and Sean Penn.

"Using a billboard, thanking Hollywood for helping re-elect George Bush is somewhat in fun, but also delivers a serious message," said Dave Bossie, president of Citizens United. "That is, every action has an equal and opposite reaction."

Citizens United is the same group that mounted a counterattack against Moore's "Fahrenheit 9/11" called "Celsius: 41.11."

The billboards are more than one block from the site of the Kodak Theatre at Hollywood and Highland, site of the Academy Awards presentation. Citizens United said it has plans for more billboards in the area.

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To: Zeppelin

26 posted on 02/11/2005 1:19:37 PM PST by Liz (Wise men are instructed by reason; lesser men, by experience; the ignorant, by necessity. Cicero)
CLICK HERE for the rest of that thread

18 posted on 02/19/2005 7:58:19 AM PST by RonDog
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To: the invisib1e hand
I'd support a "Shut up and get a real job" rally. Or maybe, "Shut up and act your age." Or perhaps, "Shut up and act like you're packing up and leaving the hemisphere."

Or maybe just a "Shut up, period" rally.

19 posted on 02/19/2005 7:59:05 AM PST by Euro-American Scum (A poverty-stricken middle class must be a disarmed middle class)
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To: RonDog

20 posted on 02/19/2005 8:01:33 AM PST by Liz (Wise men are instructed by reason; lesser men, by experience; the ignorant, by necessity. Cicero)
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To: Euro-American Scum
Or maybe just a "Shut up, period" rally.

Don't know how I managed to leave that one out. Ought to be on top of the list.

****

That cartoon with moore in bed with the donkey totally wins THE PRIZE.

Rock on, Liz -- great tag line, too.

21 posted on 02/19/2005 8:03:39 AM PST by the invisib1e hand ("remember, from ashes you came, to ashes you will return.")
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To: Liz
Nice Graphic J

(Consider it stolen J )

22 posted on 02/19/2005 8:10:39 AM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: RonDog

Good work. Might be nice to have a Meryl Streep sign about Alar. She has some espalining to do. Alar did not cause cancer and it, her congressional testimony, did ruin Washington State apples for years.


23 posted on 02/19/2005 8:17:36 AM PST by q_an_a
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To: OmegaMan; AnnaZ; HangFire
Responsibility about what?

I just think they should keep their left-wing politics to themselves, otherwise the marketplace should rule as to what does or doesn't get made.

I don't want the moral majority determining what kind of movies get made - that would totally suck.

I am not advocating government censorship, or even necessarily free market retaliation against the films created by these Hollywood leftists.
But I **do** believe that "to whom much is given, much is required."
See, for example, the message that I promoted at a PREVIOUS Oscar FReep:

LA SLIMES' NOTABLE OSCAR QUOTABLES --
NICOLE KIDMAN ON ONE SIDE... AND FR'S "RONDOG" ON THE OTHER!

LEFT ANGELES SLIMES
Posted on 03/24/2003 1:59:50 PM PST by AnnaZ

So I finally start going through, page by page, the Oscar coverage in today's Slimes (that's right... still reading  it so that you don't have to). And then I almost had a heart attack.
 
The "E"/"Calendar Part 1" Section is dedicated to Oscar coverage, E1 starting it all off with a big pic of Best Actor winner Adrien Brody smooching presenter Halle Berry and the beginning of the story.
 
Following it in to E2 and E3, there are a bunch of huge picture of various winners from the night, the top of each page prefaced with a huge bold quote.
 
On the left side (heh, heh) is one quote: 
 
 
"Why do you come to the Academy Awards when the world is in such turmoil?
Because art is important."
 
Nicole Kidman, accepting the best actress award
 
 
 
On the right side (in more ways than one ;^) is another quote:
 
 
 
"If John Wayne were here, he'd be doing what we're doing.
He'd be supporting the troops."
 
Ron Smith, demonstrator at Hollywood and Highland

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To: AnnaZ; RonDog

"If John Wayne were here, he'd be doing what we're doing. He'd be supporting the troops.

What Would Elvis Do???

155 posted on 03/24/2003 5:27:30 PM PST by HangFire

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To: HangFire

What Would Elvis Do???
LOL!
Elvis was my SECOND choice for a sign...
We KNOW what Elvis did, from www.top40-charts.com:



ELVIS JOINS THE US ARMY


By the end of 1957, Elvis Presley was the unchallenged King of Rock'n'Roll. With nine US chart-topping hits behind him achieved in less than two years, he was the hottest item on any menu, but that very fact may have strongly influenced the US Government in their insistence that Presley should be drafted for national service in the US Army...


156 posted on 03/24/2003 5:34:24 PM PST by RonDog
CLICK HERE for the rest of that thread

24 posted on 02/19/2005 8:28:06 AM PST by RonDog
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To: RonDog
SOMEONE TAKE PICTURES AND/OR VIDEO FOR LATER PERUSAL BY THOSE OF US LUCKY ENOUGH TO BE OUT OF CALIFORNIA!
25 posted on 02/19/2005 8:28:36 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat (I'm so glad to no longer be associated with the Party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: RonDog

Wow, they called Bush a Nazi. How clever and original of them!


26 posted on 02/19/2005 8:58:37 AM PST by DallasMike
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To: RonDog

"I am not advocating government censorship, or even necessarily free market retaliation against the films created by these Hollywood leftists"

Glad to hear it... too bad not all 'conservatives' agree. The group that put up those billboards (Citizensunited.org)links to some that don't: Christian Coalition, Concerned Women for America, Family Research Council, Eagle Forum.... All would censor 'Hollywood' if they could; and I think you can tell a good deal about an organization by who they link too. So, count me out. I don't live near enough anyway but I don't particulary care for the company that this group keeps - at least not on this issue I don't.


27 posted on 02/19/2005 9:02:02 AM PST by OmegaMan
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To: RonDog

Major bump!


28 posted on 02/19/2005 9:03:06 AM PST by Drango (FReepmal me to get on/off the *NPR/PBS* ping list)
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To: RonDog
And, also from Yahoo! MAPS:

star Whitley Ave At Hollywood Blvd Los Angeles, CA 90028
When using any driving directions or map, it's a good idea to do a reality check and make sure the road still exists, watch out for construction, and follow all traffic safety precautions. This is only to be used as an aid in planning.


Copyright © 2005 Yahoo! Inc. All rights reserved.

29 posted on 02/19/2005 9:32:57 AM PST by RonDog
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To: the invisib1e hand

shut up and leave the hemisphere is the one that works best.
because shut up and get a job wont work if your addicted to the gimmie gimmie gimmie crowd and the shut up and act your age wont work because unfortunatly with their stunted mental life of being provided for, they are acting their age.
so that only leaves plan C.
PLEASE LEAVE NOW


30 posted on 02/19/2005 9:34:37 AM PST by 537cant be wrong (no kittie! thats my pot pie!)
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To: RonDog; Liz; Libloather; MurryMom; liberallarry; Grassontop; harrowup
"She's in Love With Dem Socialist RATS!!"
(To be sung to Don Williams' "She's in Love With a Rodeo Man")

She's a Lib'ral on a quest to git FReebies...
She loathes all who're Right, this she knows!!
"Cuz Big Guv'ment pays fer her sad life...
And she says, "RATS always git my vote!!"

Well, she knows Left's blight makes folks queasy...
Forfeits Rights like the slave that she is...
Folks, she begs like a pitiful Lib'ral...
And she pines fer a Prez'dent who's Slick!!

Slick Willie'll always be her fav'rite...
While Left spreads Tyranny 'cross the land!!
Won't vote fer a man like Dubyuh...
She’s in love with a Socialist CAD!!

Still, he's Slick...oh so sick...Bill's a Rapist!!
At Waco, he ordered kids FRIED!!
Lib'rals think that Bill's the country's savior...
But the Truth is that Slick just ain't Right!!

Hillary next will be RATS' fav'rite...
Vile Left spreads oppression 'cross the Land!!
Won't vote fer a man like Reagan...
She’s in love with Dem Socialist RATS!!

Mudboy Slim

31 posted on 02/19/2005 9:37:55 AM PST by Mudboy Slim (Decrease the Federal Expenditures as a percentage of GDP from its present 20% to 12% by 2013!!)
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To: RonDog

I'll try to make the rally, Ron. In their faces!


32 posted on 02/19/2005 9:45:45 AM PST by doug from upland (Ray Charles --- a great musician and safer driver than Ted Kennedy)
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To: RonDog

Thankya,thankyavermuch for your service Rondog!

(You ain't nothing but a hound dog;-)

34 posted on 02/19/2005 10:26:30 AM PST by HangFire (Imagine a world with no hypothetical situations.)
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To: OmegaMan
"moral majority "

I just went to see Constantine last night, and liked it. It was the first movie in more than 6 months that I have gone to see. Otherwise, we rent or watch old movies on TV.

This is a far cry from what I used to do. I used to go almost every week or two. With the advancement of the moral decay during the Clinton administration, I began noticing that fewer and fewer movies were made that were redeeming. There's the cussing. There's the devil/evil forces crap that can't be stopped by religion for some reason. There's the evil priest. There's the point of view from the killer's perspective, which began long ago, and has intensified over the years. There's the remaking of old movies that studios thoughts should be 'updated' for some reason. There's the gay sub/plot line. There's the abortion/horrible parent plot line. There's the lack of moral core plot line. And, there's the good, simple ordinary life is trite, dull and stupid plot line.

Sometimes I think now that McCarthy was right, and that the Communists, or, at least all those that are truly evil, have taken over control of film making. For going on two generations now, we have witnessed a need to thrill and titillate that reaches beyond the previous level, abandoning what is good in human nature for what is at the very least not so good.

Since when is it a bad thing for parents or anyone to see a just plain good movie that warms the heart and is a good movie?

The night before my father had his fatal heart attack, I took my parents to see The Natural, having bragged about how good it was. I am glad it was that kind of movie, and not something like what is produced now. I am also, I am sad to say, glad he didn't live to see what is happening now. I am also worried that generations of children are growing up thinking all this is normal and all right, and expecting even more, which is a frightening thought.

My 2 cents.
35 posted on 02/19/2005 10:47:10 AM PST by combat_boots (Dug in and not budging an inch.)
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To: doug from upland
I'll try to make the rally, Ron. In their faces!
EXCELLENT, doug!
We expect that SOME the TV cameras, wire service photographers and print journalists will start arriving as early as noon, but MOST of the media attention should be from 3 pm to 5 pm – during the Red Carpet ceremonies.
The limos should start driving west on Hollywood Blvd (from Wilcox, or Vine) at about 3 pm – right past our position in front of the billboard at Hollywood and Whitley.
Our current plan is to have an advance team (led by Ted Hayes and RonDog) arrive at Hollywood and Highland – to "stake out" a position near the steel fence facing the Red Carpet arrival area. This area will rapidly be OVERWHELMED by Oscar fans from all across the USA, as they squeeze in to perhaps get a glimpse of their favorite star’s arrival...
Anyone arriving before noon should attempt to hook up with us there. Ted and I may decide to give up our “front row” positions to others, who may be able to hold signs.
The SECOND team will gather in front of the billboard at Hollywood and Whitley – three blocks east of Highland. Some time around noon, Ted and I will break away from our "front row" positions, and move to join the second team (at Hollywood and Whitley) – where we will lead a "parade" down Hollywood, from Whitley to as close to Highland as we can get.
We will know more soon.
36 posted on 02/19/2005 10:54:43 AM PST by RonDog
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To: RonDog

If I only weren't two thirds of the way across the country.........


37 posted on 02/19/2005 11:18:31 AM PST by ohioWfan (W.........STILL the President!!)
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To: q_an_a; rantblogger
Good work.

Might be nice to have a Meryl Streep sign about Alar.

Thanks!

Our current plans are for ME to dress as "Michael Moore" -- and for TED to dress as "Uncle Sam" -- who will be pummeling me, among other things. :o)

American flags are always a good idea, but flag poles, and lumber over 1/4 inch thick are NOT allowed.
Ted LOVES the idea of having as many purple fingers as possible.

See also, from:

FReep the Oscars!
Meet near "THANK YOU, Hollywood" billboard on SUNDAY (2/27/05) noon to 5 pm

Billboard Delivers Right Jab To Hollywood ^ | February 12, 2005 | RonDog [and FRiends]
Posted on 02/12/2005 9:27:10 AM PST by RonDog

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To: AmericanMade1776

We could go as the Sunshine Freepers:

Recall Walter Matheau's famous line from "The Sunshine Boys".

Better, imagine ordering a bunch of these in pink with the word FREEDOM on the index finger and FREE REPUBLIC on the palm?

Dip the index fingers in purple RIT dye.

45 posted on 02/14/2005 8:27:02 AM PST by rantblogger (Rantblogger can be seen http://la4israel.org/wordpress)
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38 posted on 02/19/2005 11:20:10 AM PST by RonDog
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To: combat_boots

I liked your story about The Natural; I love that movie too.

I think you're exaggerating though the direction Hollywood is going in. At least regarding 'sex and violence', I think there's less in the movies now than there was decades ago. Much of that has to do with the change to a more conservative political atmosphere in the country as a whole, but also because of political correctness - they sort of get it from both the left and the right now. And to be frank, I think blaming Clinton is kind of ridiculous. It was more 'anything goes' during the eighties than the nineties, imo. The eighties was the heyday of the big, violent action movies and the gorey, slasher flick - both of which always included some nudity or sex. Movies are tamer now IMO. But if its the 'themes' or stories you don't care for then it's up to 'conservatives' to make their own movies, instead of trying to restrict what 'liberals' make - and thats unfortunately what many want to do.


39 posted on 02/19/2005 12:21:04 PM PST by OmegaMan
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To: RonDog

Wish we could join everyone for this!!!! I hope there are LOTS and LOTS of folks there with you.


40 posted on 02/19/2005 12:44:51 PM PST by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: OmegaMan
But if its the 'themes' or stories you don't care for then it's up to 'conservatives' to make their own movies, instead of trying to restrict what 'liberals' make...
Bingo!
Let the free market rule!
Just as talk radio and the Internet have made "gatekeepers" in the 'Old MEDIA' more and more irrelevant...
...dramatic advances in film-making technology (and the resulting SUBSTANTIALLY lower costs of production) will soon make 'Old HOLLYWOOD' no more than a bad memory. :o)
Check out this thread about the WONDERFUL conservative movies screened a few months ago -- right here in the "belly of the beast."
Ann Coulter, Protest Warriors, Charlton Heston, Ronald Reagan, and Iraq:
...at the first annual LIBERTY FILM FESTIVAL in HOLLYWOOD! (Oct. 1-3, 2004)
Hollywood's first CONSERVATIVE film festival:
www.LibertyFilmFestival.com

41 posted on 02/19/2005 1:19:05 PM PST by RonDog
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To: OmegaMan

Please note that I am not blaming Clinton. Actually, I never paid much attention to the folks who ran film studios previous to the Clinton years. I simply want an explanation for the last few years of movies, and the most logical explanation I can come up with is that the lag time for production had to come as a result of those who came to power in film making during the 1990s, which happen to be the Clinton years. That his Presidency led the way in moral decline only served to exascerbate the situaion.

I have voted with my dollars for at least a year now, and don't go: something I have never done before. Wanting to see a movie without having to worry about quality is rare in my book. I am to the point of refusing to quietly sit by while media shoves ideology down my throat.

As for conservative moviemakers, it would seem that the making of The Passion of the Christ is a good example of both the refusal to portray religion positively, as well as the academy's refusal to recognize anything but its technical effects, etc.

Having a few, good conservative films in a field flooded with films from a pit of vice would not be a bad idea. One of the qualities of Constantine, for example, that I liked was the recognition that there IS good and that it is worthwhile, and, worth fighting for.


42 posted on 02/19/2005 1:21:13 PM PST by combat_boots (Dug in and not budging an inch.)
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To: RonDog

Bumping for the best West Coast FReep this year....


43 posted on 02/19/2005 2:16:29 PM PST by Drango (FReepmal me to get on/off the *NPR/PBS* ping list)
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To: OmegaMan
You're delusional. Quentin Tarantino spawned an entire genre of ultra-violent, independent films that are directed at young, males and that changed the direction of storytelling for decades. And the entire body of films by black film makers are the most vile and disgusting ever created. Then there is the whole "American Pie" group and their spin-offs.

Being a member of the Academy and the Writers Guild, I have to watch just about every movie made in a year. Believe me, the 80's were child's play next to the cesspool generated in the 90's.

44 posted on 02/19/2005 2:23:10 PM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: combat_boots; RonDog; Grampa Dave; Invisible_hand; libfo; Fiddlstix; geedee; Blurblogger
I am to the point of refusing to quietly sit by while media shoves ideology down my throat.

IMO, this is the most egregious activity in La La Land-----proselytizing audiences without their knowledge or consent.

Hollywarped better get the message----we, the people, have had it with it's endless brainwashing of audiences into Christian-hating and American-hating, without audiences' knowledge or consent. Hollywarped has willfully chipped away at Western civilzation under the guise of "artistic expression."

Follywood firmly believes that 24/7 of their sexually salacious and violent TV, movies and music are not harming kids and the culture.

OTOH, Hollywarped also believes----with the religious fervor of Tammy Faye Baker---- that a single 15-sec commercial will compel tens of millions of Americans into thousands of stores to buy billions of dollars worth of soap, soup, breakfast cereal and cars.

They can't have it both ways.

The Moral Relativist Shock Troops better mend their ways. The usual suspects include: abortion-worshipping Feminazis, the fully fornicating Playboy-Cosmo faction, secular humanists who despise Christians, the ACLU-Christian baiters,Planned Parenthood and the population control cabal, and the gay-transgender anti-family element.

All of them aided and abetted by a compliant liberal media and agenda-driven academia inculcating the Nation's youth with the Hollywarped liberal idealogy.

We have had it with this Secular Taliban.

Follywood better live with it.

45 posted on 02/19/2005 2:54:12 PM PST by Liz (Wise men are instructed by reason; lesser men, by experience; the ignorant, by necessity. Cicero)
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To: Deb

I don't understand the big deal about it, I like the ultra violence IF it's done with a good story line. I came of age in the late 80s, early 90s. I choose to watch films that don't have the 50s style wholesome storylines with and woefully predictable endings. The 90s were chuck full of Disney films and family movies that had those elements - and they were rewarded in boxoffice revenue for producing them. If people like family movies, they should be allowed to watch them. Likewise, If I want to see Shawn of the Dead - I should be able to watch it in its all its immoral glory without some moralistic pinhead trying to tamper with it before it gets a chance to hit the screen. Let the market make the decisions.


46 posted on 02/19/2005 2:56:00 PM PST by stacytec
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To: Liz
45 posted on 02/19/2005 4:54:12 PM CST by Liz

Well Said!

Bears Repeating!
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47 posted on 02/19/2005 3:15:08 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: RonDog

Bump to the top!


49 posted on 02/19/2005 4:54:47 PM PST by Joy Angela
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To: RonDog; Chieftain; Ragtime Cowgirl; gatorbait; GreyFriar; americanmother; The Mayor; ...

Great idea **PING**


50 posted on 02/19/2005 7:15:31 PM PST by Former Military Chick
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